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    Default The fix is in

    "I am boycotting this fight. I really have trouble fathoming Oscar’s motivations for this fight outside of money. I think this bout is merely the action of a promoter, not a fighter, who has bigger plans for Pacman and Hatton down the road. If he can bolster Pac’s already high regard with a huge win over a giant by comparison, then he can make a super fight out of Hatton-Pacquiao bigger than it already would be. I hope I’m wrong, but I think Oscar might tank this one. This bout stinks to me. Both have plenty of other viable options in front of them. No Pick.”
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    Derek Bonnett works for Secondsout.com and before big fights they ask staff members to predict the outcome of the fight. When I read this yesterday I thought "no way, this guy is nuts" but after watching the fight today I think he might be on to something.

    Oscar fought with no passion, no heart, no determination and quit on his stool.

    I think there are three possible things that could have happened here:-

    1) Getting down to 147 drained everything out of DLH. (unlikely since he came in two pounds under)

    2) DLH was hampered by an illness or injury that we are unaware of or

    3) He threw the fight.


    I've been watching Oscar a long time, and tonight he was awful. He didn't throw any fucking punches. Damn hard to win a fight without throwing shots.
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    Default Re: The fix is in

    This fight farce was a celeb show drama from jump off.Im just glad its over frankly.

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    Default Re: The fix is in

    DLH was pure garbage. Absolutely agree with that.

    He was bust up, exhausted after 6...and all that done by a fighter that was 3 weight classes outside what he was a year ago. That is a humiliation and schooling of the highest order.

    And I loved every second of it. Thats got to be the end of the orange phoney now, surely.

    Why would anybody want to pay 55 dollars to watch him again??

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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    DLH was pure garbage. Absolutely agree with that.

    He was bust up, exhausted after 6...and all that done by a fighter that was 3 weight classes outside what he was a year ago. That is a humiliation and schooling of the highest order.

    And I loved every second of it. Thats got to be the end of the orange phoney now, surely.

    Why would anybody want to pay 55 dollars to watch him again??
    Dude get off his back, shit i was seriously impartial in this fight, but thought do to boxing ability alone, DLH was gonna win, I give Pacquiao all the credit in the world cause he overcame all the odds, but don't fucking kid yourself, just like the guys on ESPN said, Oscar didn't look right, his legs were gone from the get go, i dunno why so much hate on the dude, he's fulfilled with puttin on great fights a good 95% of the time, win or lose, he's been through wars against the top in the buisness, and yet you can't get off his back, you bitch and moan about payin $55, but i doubt that The Golden Boy put a gun to your head and said pay this shit now or i blow your block off, honestly guys like you are whats dragging the sport down, guys that kick fighters when they're down, especially when they clearly don't have it anymore, not the promoters

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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    "I am boycotting this fight. I really have trouble fathoming Oscar’s motivations for this fight outside of money. I think this bout is merely the action of a promoter, not a fighter, who has bigger plans for Pacman and Hatton down the road. If he can bolster Pac’s already high regard with a huge win over a giant by comparison, then he can make a super fight out of Hatton-Pacquiao bigger than it already would be. I hope I’m wrong, but I think Oscar might tank this one. This bout stinks to me. Both have plenty of other viable options in front of them. No Pick.”
    - Derek Bonnett

    Derek Bonnett works for Secondsout.com and before big fights they ask staff members to predict the outcome of the fight. When I read this yesterday I thought "no way, this guy is nuts" but after watching the fight today I think he might be on to something.

    Oscar fought with no passion, no heart, no determination and quit on his stool.

    I think there are three possible things that could have happened here:-

    1) Getting down to 147 drained everything out of DLH. (unlikely since he came in two pounds under)

    2) DLH was hampered by an illness or injury that we are unaware of or

    3) He threw the fight.


    I've been watching Oscar a long time, and tonight he was awful. He didn't throw any fucking punches. Damn hard to win a fight without throwing shots.

    If ODH threw that fight I have more respect for him than ever. That's one tough bastard to take a beating like that willingly. Not to mention the embarrassment. I think he was overtrained based upon the weight and the fact he was flat from the get go. Pac looked great but ODH looked weak and slow from the start.

    I don't think ODH is tough enough or thick skinned enough to take that beating on purpose. And the public humiliation to top it off.

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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post

    If ODH threw that fight I have more respect for him than ever. That's one tough bastard to take a beating like that willingly. Not to mention the embarrassment. I think he was overtrained based upon the weight and the fact he was flat from the get go. Pac looked great but ODH looked weak and slow from the start.

    I don't think ODH is tough enough or thick skinned enough to take that beating on purpose. And the public humiliation to top it off.
    Exactly. Pure beatdown. Nothing more, nothing less. Fighters do what they do to get fights...and the path to them. It is never an excuse, or shouldn't be...even if its true with him being drained.

    And it certainly was not rigged. Oscar was genuinely messed the hell up.

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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    "I am boycotting this fight. I really have trouble fathoming Oscar’s motivations for this fight outside of money. I think this bout is merely the action of a promoter, not a fighter, who has bigger plans for Pacman and Hatton down the road. If he can bolster Pac’s already high regard with a huge win over a giant by comparison, then he can make a super fight out of Hatton-Pacquiao bigger than it already would be. I hope I’m wrong, but I think Oscar might tank this one. This bout stinks to me. Both have plenty of other viable options in front of them. No Pick.”
    - Derek Bonnett

    Derek Bonnett works for Secondsout.com and before big fights they ask staff members to predict the outcome of the fight. When I read this yesterday I thought "no way, this guy is nuts" but after watching the fight today I think he might be on to something.

    Oscar fought with no passion, no heart, no determination and quit on his stool.

    I think there are three possible things that could have happened here:-

    1) Getting down to 147 drained everything out of DLH. (unlikely since he came in two pounds under)

    2) DLH was hampered by an illness or injury that we are unaware of or

    3) He threw the fight.


    I've been watching Oscar a long time, and tonight he was awful. He didn't throw any fucking punches. Damn hard to win a fight without throwing shots.

    If ODH threw that fight I have more respect for him than ever. That's one tough bastard to take a beating like that willingly. Not to mention the embarrassment. I think he was overtrained based upon the weight and the fact he was flat from the get go. Pac looked great but ODH looked weak and slow from the start.

    I don't think ODH is tough enough or thick skinned enough to take that beating on purpose. And the public humiliation to top it off.

    I think Oscar has been shot for years. That's why he fought only once or twice a year and lets face it the only guys he beat since losing to Hopkins weren't exactly top shelf material. He just became a whore and sold his ass to the highest bidder.
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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    "I am boycotting this fight. I really have trouble fathoming Oscar’s motivations for this fight outside of money. I think this bout is merely the action of a promoter, not a fighter, who has bigger plans for Pacman and Hatton down the road. If he can bolster Pac’s already high regard with a huge win over a giant by comparison, then he can make a super fight out of Hatton-Pacquiao bigger than it already would be. I hope I’m wrong, but I think Oscar might tank this one. This bout stinks to me. Both have plenty of other viable options in front of them. No Pick.”
    - Derek Bonnett

    Derek Bonnett works for Secondsout.com and before big fights they ask staff members to predict the outcome of the fight. When I read this yesterday I thought "no way, this guy is nuts" but after watching the fight today I think he might be on to something.

    Oscar fought with no passion, no heart, no determination and quit on his stool.

    I think there are three possible things that could have happened here:-

    1) Getting down to 147 drained everything out of DLH. (unlikely since he came in two pounds under)

    2) DLH was hampered by an illness or injury that we are unaware of or

    3) He threw the fight.


    I've been watching Oscar a long time, and tonight he was awful. He didn't throw any fucking punches. Damn hard to win a fight without throwing shots.
    I knew there would be excuses but I know the truth, Oscar's thong was on too tight and it was bothering him and that is why she looked so stiff I think had he worn high heels he/she would have moved a lot more

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    Default Re: The fix is in

    I don't buy it.

    If Oscar really wanted to win the fight he should have jumped all over Pac, making his size and strength advantages count. He fought like he was the smaller guy

    Oscar didn't give his all.
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    Default Re: The fix is in

    He was doing that until he tasted a two-punch combo. Right about 30 seconds into the first round.

    Then the complexity of his gameplan eroded every second, and every hit he received until he was reduced to a shell of a fighter, cowering in fear.

    Wondering, more than fighting... How can you overcome being hit one after another in relentless fashion, and the other hand be faced with one darn elusive target.

    IT was a psychological breakdown. It is what Freddie calls, "can't pull the trigger anymore".

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    Default Re: The fix is in

    I haven't watached yet, but I did say all along that this would happen, the fight stunk from the moment it was signed. Not gonna take anything away from Manny, coz I'm sure he fought great as usual, but DLH was never planned to win this fight

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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I haven't watached yet, but I did say all along that this would happen, the fight stunk from the moment it was signed. Not gonna take anything away from Manny, coz I'm sure he fought great as usual, but DLH was never planned to win this fight

    Yep, something about this fight stinks.

    Oscar's effort was pathetic.
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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I don't buy it.

    If Oscar really wanted to win the fight he should have jumped all over Pac, making his size and strength advantages count. He fought like he was the smaller guy

    Oscar didn't give his all.
    He was the smaller guy mate!
    Im sure I heard that he came into the ring less than Manny if the commentators are to be belived.

    I agree in he didnt give it his all.

    I said on another thread check his knees out and you can see fear and uncertainty in his movment from quite early on.

    As soon as he tasted the type of power he didnt expect he changed his mind I think and went back to basics to see if he could work something out ,but basics don't work as a spring board with someone like Manny moving every way imaginable in front of you.
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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I don't buy it.

    If Oscar really wanted to win the fight he should have jumped all over Pac, making his size and strength advantages count. He fought like he was the smaller guy

    Oscar didn't give his all.
    He was the smaller guy mate!
    Im sure I heard that he came into the ring less than Manny if the commentators are to be belived.

    I agree in he didnt give it his all.

    I said on another thread check his knees out and you can see fear and uncertainty in his movment from quite early on.

    As soon as he tasted the type of power he didnt expect he changed his mind I think and went back to basics to see if he could work something out ,but basics don't work as a spring board with someone like Manny moving every way imaginable in front of you.
    His footwork and balance looked terrible from the outgo, manny was able to turn and hit him while he fumbled around a 90 degree turn. He's never had the quickest footwork, but that almost looked like new guys learing footwork in there. Maybe it was just a terrible matchup for him. Either way we will never know, but it was rather dissapointing.
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    Default Re: The fix is in

    Haven't watched the fight so can't comment.

    but to be honest i aint supprised

    ODLH = Promoter
    Pac = has the biggest fan base in the sport
    Hatton = has the second biggest fan base in the sport

    so a hatton match up with pac is far more sellable now after last nights win and a massive moneymaker

    don't you just love this sport

    but then hey i always thought DLH held back against Mayweather to sell a rematch.

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