Is Hatton Pac's most powerful opponent yet?

[Cortez The Killer]

Forgive me ass straight off:

I didnt read any responses here yet.

I think yes: Hatton is definitely the hardest oppent Pac would fight.

PAC schooled dlh, but from a fairly non-biased view dlh was looking pretty zombie that night.

And I am not taking away from Pacquiao. Oscar just didnt have it in him physically that night.

I have never been a fan of Hatton, but that doesnt mean I dont like him. He's a hard, rough, go ahead fighter and anyone who fights him is going to have to buckle down hard and be in their game, because he is a little pitbull even on his off nights.

Hatton detractors can say what they want: but the fact is at 140 he is a physical force. Oscar at 147 wasnt, he was a dead man walking.

I think a number of fighters could have beaten Oscar that night. Not as smooothly as Manny, but they would have beaten Oscar down and ended it before the final bell. The fact that Manny did it moving up was what was spectacular, but it didnt look like DLH had too much fight in him to start out. Whatever was there Pac beat down quickly.



From what I said it may sound like I'd favor hatton against pac. But I dont.

Hatton looked nervous when he saw how thoroughly pacman destroyed oscar.

Ricky had doubt in how he would fare against oscar when it was being talked about, and even though it was a weak oscar that showed up against pacman, hatton still has that fear.

Pac out speeds hatton. Hatton will give a very good fight, but he just wont have it.

However much free money I have that night it's on Pac UD.

[fan johnny]

Assuming Hatton is able to connect, weight class and power behind his punches then yes he is the biggest and most powerful Pacquiao will have faced inside the ring. Oscar was only 142 at fight time and wasn't able to land anything flush so while he would have been the biggest (not the tallest). You have to remember more power comes with more weight behind it. Had Oscar not overtrained his weight he would have been the biggest. My guess is he was afraid of that 3 million per pound clause over the limit.

Only way Hatton wins this fight is he can get in close otherwise Hatton gets outboxed and out punched. Expect Hatton to come into the fight around 150lbs and Pacquiao two or three pounds less than that. Although there is a good chance Hatton makes the same mistake as DLH and overtrains. I read he is planning 13 weeks training.

[Andre]

Kostya had focus ,timing and big pucussive power from it all put together.
Pac and Mayweather have a sharper faster accumulation style damage that Ricky will find harder to cope with in the later rounds.If he does damage fast in the first 5 rounds he has a hope but I think its a repeat of Floyds style of fight against him and he wont have the patience after all else fails early on.

Kostya fought Rickys fight and even said he would fight his fight from the start so the younger fitter more hungary man deservedly won, these other two mentioned dont fight like that he will find it hard to catch Pac clean once he goes off plan. Im with Pac so long as he doesnt get dragged into a phone box style fight which I dont think he will, so long as hes got the legs he'll use them.

[leftylee]

Hattons power is not going to be as effective as what you might think IMO. For power to even be effective its got to land. I believe that will be the problem for Ricky Hatton. Pacquiao's movement from his head to his feet will give Hatton problems all night long. To me speed is more important in this fight than power. Ricky Hatton is powerful but Pacquiao has some stone hands himself. Its not just speed that has stopped so many of Pacquiao's opponets. When Hatton fought Mayweather, he was head hunting all night, not investing in the body at all and I think thats what cost him the fight. With Pacquiao's equally if not more impressive movement I think this fight will end up the same way, except not a one punch knockout. Im going with an 11th round TKO. Winner Manny Pacquiao. I think it will be a very entertaining fight!

Actually having re-watched the fight just last night, I can say that isn't true. Hatton did try & go to the body in order to slow Mayweather down, the problem he found was the shoulder roll kept taking the effectiveness of that away. Also that fight was most definitely not a one punch knockout, Hatton went down from an accumulation of punches, and anyone who's watched the fight can see that he couldn't deal with the precision.

However, even though I will be supporting Hatton, I would still favour Pacquiao in this fight because his speed will keep him away from Hatton on the outside. Also I think Hatton may get caught with flurries in much the same way that Diaz did against him. However, I don't see Hatton getting knocked out, but I think Pacquiao may well drop him at least once. As good as Kostya Tszyu was he was not anywhere near as quick as Pacquiao, and I think if Pacquiao trys to fight smart and not let Hatton get him on the inside than he should box to a UD. Most people watching the fight know Mayweather could have chosen to spend the whole night potshotting as he did against Baldomir, but appeared to fight on the inside to prove a point to Hatton given some of the pre-fight comments. When he did chose to hit him on the outside, the speed & accumulation of punches is what handed Hatton defeat, and Pacquiao can more than match this if boxes smart. However, if Hatton can cut down the ring and keep it on the inside, then the fact Pac's arms are so long will count against him, and Hatton could cause him some problems. However, like I said above I don't see this happening

You can't put Ricky Hatton's name in the same sentence with a bum like David Diaz.

BTW Hatton smashes Pac.

[leftylee]

Assuming Hatton is able to connect, weight class and power behind his punches then yes he is the biggest and most powerful Pacquiao will have faced inside the ring. Oscar was only 142 at fight time and wasn't able to land anything flush so while he would have been the biggest (not the tallest). You have to remember more power comes with more weight behind it. Had Oscar not overtrained his weight he would have been the biggest. My guess is he was afraid of that 3 million per pound clause over the limit.

Only way Hatton wins this fight is he can get in close otherwise Hatton gets outboxed and out punched. Expect Hatton to come into the fight around 150lbs and Pacquiao two or three pounds less than that. Although there is a good chance Hatton makes the same mistake as DLH and overtrains. I read he is planning 13 weeks training.

WTF ??

Is the Collazo fight the only fight you've seen ? Hatton doesn't come in at that weight whatsoever. He comes in at 140 fight night. You obviousley don't know much about the sport.

[Conrad]

WTF ??

Is the Collazo fight the only fight you've seen ? Hatton doesn't come in at that weight whatsoever. He comes in at 140 fight night. You obviousley don't know much about the sport.

Are you sure Lefty? Hatton has to weigh in more on fight night than he does at the weigh in?

The whole idea is to be water drained in order to get as light as possible. Once re-hydrated I'd guess Hatton weighs in around the 147lb mark on fight night.

[littlebif]

Hatton does put on weight after the weigh in not sure how much though but i recon 150lb wont be far from the mark.

[the_PRODIGY]

Assuming Hatton is able to connect, weight class and power behind his punches then yes he is the biggest and most powerful Pacquiao will have faced inside the ring. Oscar was only 142 at fight time and wasn't able to land anything flush so while he would have been the biggest (not the tallest). You have to remember more power comes with more weight behind it. Had Oscar not overtrained his weight he would have been the biggest. My guess is he was afraid of that 3 million per pound clause over the limit.

Only way Hatton wins this fight is he can get in close otherwise Hatton gets outboxed and out punched. Expect Hatton to come into the fight around 150lbs and Pacquiao two or three pounds less than that. Although there is a good chance Hatton makes the same mistake as DLH and overtrains. I read he is planning 13 weeks training.

WTF ??

Is the Collazo fight the only fight you've seen ? Hatton doesn't come in at that weight whatsoever. He comes in at 140 fight night. You obviousley don't know much about the sport.

Slow down you're embarrasing yourself homie.

[donnydarkoIRL]

You could also argue MAB was coming off some of his best wins before he fought Manny Pacquiao. He looked great beating Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley, Erik Morales 2. And i have to say the 2nd meeting between Erik Morales and MAB wasn't a brutal fight at all.

Infact that was a fight that never caught fire to me, the first 6 rounds were mostly alot of boxing and little action. Then the fight sort of picked up in the last 6 rounds, but it certainly wasn't a brutal fight by any means, infact it was a walk in the park compared to there other 2 fights.

You could, but then you could just counter saying MAB was about as focused for that fight as Judah.
How could a fighter perform when the media had just caught wind of his injury and spilled it everywhere?

The Morales v MAB 2 fight was more of a boxing affair than the 2 other rows. I actually felt that fight was the one Erik should have been awarded (I scored the other 2 for Marco) and MAB took a lot of straight rights in that fight.

well koysta wasn't just about power. he was awesome to watch because of his accuracy.

I was actually suprise floyd ko'ed ricky, floyd is not well known for his power. Nor is Lazcano but Juan Lazcano was able to hit and nearly put hatton away. Knowing how good a trainer roach is, im sure his going to send pacman out on hatton with a solid game plan. Ok sure pac has not fought at 140, but his speed,stamina and power seem to be there even at 147. Plus he doesn't have to drain himself to make weight anymore. You guys may believe hatton is a devestating body puncher, but is he really? he looked great against pauli but pauli is a soft puncher, hatton could of cared less if pauli caught him with whatever. His going to care and really feel pacs punches though, he probubly wont see them coming nor know where or when they get to him

Kostya was very accurate from range. Under pressure in close he had problems, Hatton availed of this minute flaw.

I've always thought Mayweather is underrated in terms of strength. His style doesn't see him put guys away often as he is primarily a defensive fighter, but with guys like Corrales and Corrales we saw him breakdown good fighters and finish them. To some extent we saw this vs. Judah, but Judah famously interrupted this flow with fouls.

Although Pacquiao stopped De la Hoya (durable at Light Middle) I don't think his punch equates to the power we saw at Superfeather.
He beat Oscar on pressure, persistance and surprisingly acuracy.

[donnydarkoIRL]

You could also argue MAB was coming off some of his best wins before he fought Manny Pacquiao. He looked great beating Johnny Tapia, Kevin Kelley, Erik Morales 2. And i have to say the 2nd meeting between Erik Morales and MAB wasn't a brutal fight at all.

Infact that was a fight that never caught fire to me, the first 6 rounds were mostly alot of boxing and little action. Then the fight sort of picked up in the last 6 rounds, but it certainly wasn't a brutal fight by any means, infact it was a walk in the park compared to there other 2 fights.

You could, but then you could just counter saying MAB was about as focused for that fight as Judah.
How could a fighter perform when the media had just caught wind of his injury and spilled it everywhere?

The Morales v MAB 2 fight was more of a boxing affair than the 2 other rows. I actually felt that fight was the one Erik should have been awarded (I scored the other 2 for Marco) and MAB took a lot of straight rights in that fight.

well koysta wasn't just about power. he was awesome to watch because of his accuracy.

I was actually suprise floyd ko'ed ricky, floyd is not well known for his power. Nor is Lazcano but Juan Lazcano was able to hit and nearly put hatton away. Knowing how good a trainer roach is, im sure his going to send pacman out on hatton with a solid game plan. Ok sure pac has not fought at 140, but his speed,stamina and power seem to be there even at 147. Plus he doesn't have to drain himself to make weight anymore. You guys may believe hatton is a devestating body puncher, but is he really? he looked great against pauli but pauli is a soft puncher, hatton could of cared less if pauli caught him with whatever. His going to care and really feel pacs punches though, he probubly wont see them coming nor know where or when they get to him

Kostya was very accurate from range. Under pressure in close he had problems, Hatton availed of this minute flaw.

I've always thought Mayweather is underrated in terms of strength. His style doesn't see him put guys away often as he is primarily a defensive fighter, but with guys like Corrales and Corrales we saw him breakdown good fighters and finish them. To some extent we saw this vs. Judah, but Judah famously interrupted this flow with fouls.

Although Pacquiao stopped De la Hoya (durable at Light Middle) I don't think his punch equates to the power we saw at Superfeather.
He beat Oscar on pressure, persistance and surprisingly acuracy.

[Conrad]

Although Pacquiao stopped De la Hoya (durable at Light Middle) I don't think his punch equates to the power we saw at Superfeather.
He beat Oscar on pressure, persistance and surprisingly acuracy.

I couldn't agree more Donny.

Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part but I can't help but think the ODLH win exagerates his capabilities at the higher weights somewhat. Sure he looked awesome against Oscar but that's as much down to ODLH himself as it is Pac.

How can everybody be so sure that Pac takes his power with him to 140 and above? IMO the ODLH fight can't be evidence of that.

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

Excluding ODLH for obvious reasons, has Pac ever been in with anyone that can hit or is as strong as Hatton?

It seems to me a lot of people (including the bookies) have Manny the clear favourite to win this. Personally I feel Hatton has the edge, mostly down to his strength advantage.

Do you think Manny has ever faced an opponent as physically strong as Hatton? JMM pushed Manny as hard as anyone but JMM isn't as strong as Hatton

Simple answer no he hasn't he also hasn't met anyone, with Ricky Hatton's body punching abilities. And Considering Manny Pacquiao was KO'ed with a body shot, i know he was weight drained a young Manny Pacquiao fans.

But i would still be interested how Manny Pacquiao takes Ricky Hatton's body punches. I remember in the 2nd JMM fight, Manny Pacquiao was badly hurt from a body shot, and JMM isn't really known as a body puncher and it was only 1 round of body punching assault.

So i would make this fight pretty even and Ricky Hatton has quick feet, so he can close the distance very well. The only problem is that Manny Pacquiao is a much improved boxer.

And his countering abilities have improved greatly so he has the skills, to pick Ricky Hatton apart from the outside. And Ricky Hatton's defence has been very leaky lately especially to left hands. And remember Ricky Hatton has struggled with Southpaws since he was an Amateur.

But it should be a very interesting bout it all depends which fighter, can make it there type of fight.

JMM hurt pac in the 8th, while pac was trying to wipe the blood from his eye jmm caught him in the body and pac didn't see it coming. It took pacs wind away but pac recovered as soon as the blood stopped coming down on his eyes. That would happen to anybody in that situation but not all would of kept standing let alone survive.

Pacs actually lets oppenent hit him in the body sometimes, his body and chin is as solid as anyone. Can you image anybody else getting hit with all the blows eric,marco,jmm have all landed on pac? hell no, guys like hatton would of been ktfo. Hatton bigger but not stronger. he'll hug and try to be physical but dont mean he stronger, he just bigger. Compare to the three greats, hatton looks soft.

Yeh Hatton might be the strongest.
I do remember JMM hittin him with some not alot of body bunches and they seem to have made him stop cold on his feet on go on defensive for a bit.
But will Hatton Fight his usual fight? Like he did against Mayweather or Fight like he foguht Maliggnagi?
As for Hatton Lookin soft compared to the 3 greats I agree!

[leftylee]

Assuming Hatton is able to connect, weight class and power behind his punches then yes he is the biggest and most powerful Pacquiao will have faced inside the ring. Oscar was only 142 at fight time and wasn't able to land anything flush so while he would have been the biggest (not the tallest). You have to remember more power comes with more weight behind it. Had Oscar not overtrained his weight he would have been the biggest. My guess is he was afraid of that 3 million per pound clause over the limit.

Only way Hatton wins this fight is he can get in close otherwise Hatton gets outboxed and out punched. Expect Hatton to come into the fight around 150lbs and Pacquiao two or three pounds less than that. Although there is a good chance Hatton makes the same mistake as DLH and overtrains. I read he is planning 13 weeks training.

WTF ??

Is the Collazo fight the only fight you've seen ? Hatton doesn't come in at that weight whatsoever. He comes in at 140 fight night. You obviousley don't know much about the sport.

Slow down you're embarrasing yourself homie.

He doesn't come in heavier fight night. Otherwise he would be sluggish like he was against Collazo. You gotta trust me on this.

And I am certainly not embarrasing myself. This coming from the same guy who a few days ago said Tony Margarito was pretty

[leftylee]

WTF ??

Is the Collazo fight the only fight you've seen ? Hatton doesn't come in at that weight whatsoever. He comes in at 140 fight night. You obviousley don't know much about the sport.

Are you sure Lefty? Hatton has to weigh in more on fight night than he does at the weigh in?

The whole idea is to be water drained in order to get as light as possible. Once re-hydrated I'd guess Hatton weighs in around the 147lb mark on fight night.

A couple of pounds maybe. But 150 is ridiculous. Hatton wouldn't be "Hatton" at 150 pounds.

[the_PRODIGY]

WTF ??

Is the Collazo fight the only fight you've seen ? Hatton doesn't come in at that weight whatsoever. He comes in at 140 fight night. You obviousley don't know much about the sport.

Slow down you're embarrasing yourself homie.

He doesn't come in heavier fight night. Otherwise he would be sluggish like he was against Collazo. You gotta trust me on this.

And I am certainly not embarrasing myself. This coming from the same guy who a few days ago said Tony Margarito was pretty

LOL I never said he's pretty. I just like you gave my opinion and I said he aint ugly as you were saying. still barking about that huh...(yawn) Wut does my sigi says?