So many so called PBF supporters have short memories

[DaxxKahn]

No,its personal property so of course youd offer a reward to have it returned.
And you just contradicted yourself if he was so broke,where did he find the money to even offer a reward for 5 million in jewelery?

You just know everything don't you? No matter what anyone says you never seem to agree you just always seem to have to tell them like it is

Actually Daxx, TM is just making fair points here about JonesJrMayweather's claims that PBF is broke.

But no one knows that for sure...JonesJR at least is basing his opinion on reported news...TM acts as though he is PBF's accountant.....Talking about interest and all that other shit....

Arguing with an un needed amount of facts just for the sake of trying to look as though he is right

[albsur2006]

Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.

If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.

Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.

Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."

Hahahaha, you're just spouting off at the mouth now. Didn't you already say most of this in the Mosley vs Mayweather thread? Hahahaha. Dude, Mayweather will not stand right in front of Shane for the entire fight. I don't know why you don't seem to understand this fact. Floyd isn't gonna try to bang with Shane, he'll outbox Shane. Floyd is a different type of fighter than Margarito. BTW, I have no idea why you think Floyd's left arm will get broken by Shane body shots. That would mean that Shane Mosley would be throwing right hooks to the body, and a right hook is not really a punch that an orthodox fighter throws. It's the left hook to the body man. Hahahaha. Also, Floyd's shell guard allows him to take the majority of the punishment on his elbows. I don't see how Shane is gonna break Floyd's ribs all of a sudden when he's never broken anyone's ribs before. Hahahaha. If Hatton, who is a murderous body puncher, couldn't even land one clean body shot on Floyd, I don't know how Mosley will all of a sudden break Floyd's ribs. Statements like that are fucking idiotic. Mayweather hardly gets hit with the type of surprising body shot that causes damage.

Also, Floyd got caught against Corley. BTW, he was just buzzed. Corley also caught Cotto too. It's not because those guys don't have chins, it's because Corley is a SOUTHPAW and the punches are coming from angles they're not used to. Floyd and Cotto got caught against Judah (A SOUTHPAW) too. Everyone has troubles with southpaws. Shane Mosley is an orthodox fighter so Floyd will be used to the punches. BTW, stop making Mosley out to be a monster at 147. Margarito got KTFO because he was coming forward taking the full impact of punches because he thought he could walk through them for 12 rounds like he did Cotto. But he forgot that Shane's handspeed is fast and some of those shots he couldn't see. Floyd will not come forward with no head movement ready to take the full impact of Shane's punches. Shane will have to come forward to create his opportunities against Floyd and he'll get counterpunched and outboxed for the majority of the fight.

I think that if the fight happened man, you'd actually be surprised by how much Floyd lands offensively because Shane's so focused on offense and hardly uses any head movement. Floyd's gonna set traps, counterpunch, tie Mosley up, get to the center of the ring, and repeat the sequence for the majority of 12 rounds.

[RP33]

Why shane would beat floyd...Ive been saying it for six years now.

If Floyd stands in front of Mosely and uses the Philly shell to roll as a defense SHANE WILL BREAK HIS FUCKING RIBS or severely damage Floyd's left arm. And IF chop caught and wobbled PBF, the last thing he wants to do is stand and allow Shane to throw. It seems as though people are blind, and have short memories.

Floyd would more than likely wear the pillow gloves to protect his hands which means Shane will walk through is pot shots. And in order to pot shot someone you have to be noticeably quicker/faster. PBF isn't when it comes to Shane. Shane's arms are longer and now that he has his jab back, their jabs will be equal. And Shane is WAAAAAAY stronger and has more power than Floyd at any point of his career. And lastly, where do blind pbf fans get off thinking that Shane is some brawler with out accuracy? Watch his fights and see how accurate the throws head and body shots. Watch the first round of the fight with tony and see the body shot that probably was responsible for people thinking tony was "off". Shane nearly split him in half with the right hand in the first minute of the fight and tony's knees buckled. Floyd is accurate too but not when he throws with power he's reckless. Floyd has to sit and calculate his shots. Shane would have won six years ago, and will still beat Floyd now.

Go to vegas, sneak into the gym and listen to Uncle Roger and Ellerbe tell lil floyd, "Shane is too strong, too quick, and too tough, he aint worth the risk of having a 1 in the "L" column."

What fighter that has fought PBF would you A.) consider accurate and B.) come close to being able to load up on a punch powerful enough to break his ribs?

I think you're exaggerating QUITE a bit. Floyd is accurate as HELL with ALL of his punches.

Shane has a hell of a chin, there is no question about that, but just like many of PBF's opponents, they don't realize how effective he is even though he is not a huge power puncher. If you're connecting flush on a lead right hand with all of your weight behind it, you will feel it. You say Floyd "sits and calculates his shots", as if while he's "sitting" he's hittable. No, Floyd is a PATIENT fighter who throws when he knows he has the highest chance to land a punch. You're implying that he sits lazily or something..

Floyd has fought harder punchers, and they haven't broke his defense nor landed flush often during a fight.. TOUGH, i will give you.. But too strong and too quick?! That just makes you sound like you haven't seen PBF fight.

The older members of the forum will vouch for me on this: I'm one of PBF biggest supporters and vehemently defended him on this forum long before Tony even fought and lost to williams let along shane.

And ive seen all of his fights, it seems those that are blindly watching floyds fights seem to only see his highlights. They don't see, him being wobbled by chop, losing 3 of the first four rounds and being dropped by judah, going the distance with baldomir, beating a ruined mitchell, one dimensional hatton. Floyd hasn't fought an A+ fighter since leaving 135. he doesn't have power at 140 and up. And if he stands in the pocket trying to pick shane off, shane will hit him right in the center repeatedly. Shane would hit him in his arms. shane would be the most powerful fighter floyd has ever faced. Funny how people use the fights that shane lost (vernon and winky) as if they had the blueprint or something. They were bigger longer fighters. vernon and shane clashed heads which caused a concussion.

If castillo, baldomir, chop, mitchell, judah, augustus, de lahoya, even gatti bust floyd's lip. If they can all hit floyd its a foregone conclusion shane will land and land alot. but hopefully hatton will beat pac, to save us the bullshit justification of picking a fight with pacman over shane. if hatton wins floyd has no choice but to fight shane. but he'd still take the pussy way out and fight hatton again.

The "older" memebers of the forum will call you an IDIOT for that post.

Judah is a good fighter, and Floyd probably lost more than the first few rounds, got hit with a good shot and ALMOST got knocked down. To say dropped is simply fabricating what happened to attempt to prove your first, useless point of this thread. A sign of desperation.

Did you miss the part where Floyd destroyed Judah after that? Or did you just "watch the highlights"?

You say he doesn't have power at 140 and up. Someone posts that he KO'd Hatton, and then you call Hatton a smaller guy.. Remind me where Hatton normally fights? I'm PRETTY sure it's 140. So you're contradicting yourself a bit.

Go away.

[Mar]

Everyone entitled to thier own opinion and any fight is a toss up no matter how much anyone thinks they know or don't know about the sport...especially after his fight against mayorga almost no one gave mosely a true chance and some darted against the grain and were right but there is also someone out there that probably picked dougles over tyson too, so what not worth getting heated over. Anyhow it's easy to remember the last thing you see...look how quickly so called berto collazo fight of the year is being forgotton did last a whole week though. I stand by my prediction although i'm on a bad streak of horrible picks even so floyd is the only one who can beat floyd, much props to shane but just a couple of weeks ago he was a guy who lost to cotto, and had problems till the 12 against mayorga, he beats tony now he can whoop mayweather ?? I'm not so sure. Williams beat tony too and can mayorga beat tony as well since he did last against shane oh but wait cotto proved looking at it from that angle means nothing. Shane deserves to move up in the rankings no doubt but he is one fight away just like cotto and tony before him just one loss and everyone will be praising someone new as the new floyd slayer.

[RP33]

Everyone entitled to thier own opinion and any fight is a toss up no matter how much anyone thinks they know or don't know about the sport...especially after his fight against mayorga almost no one gave mosely a true chance and some darted against the grain and were right but there is also someone out there that probably picked dougles over tyson too, so what not worth getting heated over. Anyhow it's easy to remember the last thing you see...look how quickly so called berto collazo fight of the year is being forgotton did last a whole week though. I stand by my prediction although i'm on a bad streak of horrible picks even so floyd is the only one who can beat floyd, much props to shane but just a couple of weeks ago he was a guy who lost to cotto, and had problems till the 12 against mayorga, he beats tony now he can whoop mayweather ?? I'm not so sure. Williams beat tony too and can mayorga beat tony as well since he did last against shane oh but wait cotto proved looking at it from that angle means nothing. Shane deserves to move up in the rankings no doubt but he is one fight away just like cotto and tony before him just one loss and everyone will be praising someone new as the new floyd slayer.

well put, and i agree.. I just literally CANNOT stand when someone makes a thread like this. Being so adament that Floyd will be beaten by Shane, or any fighter for that reason because of what he did a week ago. It's sort of like the whole Calzaghe thing. I'm still not a fan of Calzaghe the person, but respect his skills greatly. I've been wrong in picking against him and he always adapts to the fight that he is in. Floyd does the same thing. You can say whatever you want, but making stupid comments that Shane will hit Floyd in the middle of the ring all night is just stupid.

[Wayne]

I think this is a lot of wishful thinking. A defense that completely shut Shane down in Winky Wright, so much so that Winky put his hands down and laughed at him that is equalled by a fighter who is faster, but you think Mayweather would lose.

Yeah, Mayweather fights everyone the exact same way . He doesn't have B plans and C plans and doesn't know how to adjust on the fly. Mosley has a class A chin, but I guess Mayweather must have gone into the Baldomir fight with KO on the mind.

Mosley is a great fighter, don't get me wrong. But he is a frustratable fighter and you can see it in his eyes when he knows he's getting beaten. Mayweather is a master at mindgaming in the ring and I think after the 3rd round he would have Mosley's number.

[Trainer Monkey]

You just know everything don't you? No matter what anyone says you never seem to agree you just always seem to have to tell them like it is

Actually Daxx, TM is just making fair points here about JonesJrMayweather's claims that PBF is broke.

But no one knows that for sure...JonesJR at least is basing his opinion on reported news...TM acts as though he is PBF's accountant.....Talking about interest and all that other shit....

Arguing with an un needed amount of facts just for the sake of trying to look as though he is right

Your taking the piss arent you?

[JonesJrMayweather]

it wasn't insured that's why offered a reward for the return...

No,its personal property so of course youd offer a reward to have it returned.
And you just contradicted yourself if he was so broke,where did he find the money to even offer a reward for 5 million in jewelery?

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

[Taeth]

I think it would be competitive for sure, Mosley is very fast, does have good skills, but not enough to beat Mayweather IMO. Certainly doesn't have the power or arsenal to land enough punches to stop Mayweather.

PBF wouldn't stand anywhere close to still and let SSM bang him. He would do what he has done his whole career, study Mosely, come up with a solid plan of action and execute it to a tee. SSM doesn't have the footwork that could trap PBF or set up his shots like Margarito who was pretty much right there all night. I'd love to see it, but I don't think that match up could generate the $$$ PBF would demand.

Why couldn't Mayweather stand on the inside, The only person he wasn't able to fight with on the inside was Castillo, and Mayweather has adjusted his style since then and Castillo was a better inside fighter than Mosley, he was shorter, his punches are more suited for the inside.

I think when Mayweather fought Oscar it proved to me he could beat Mosley. IMO Oscar was always the better of the two, I think he beat Mosley in the second fight by almost doubling Mosley's punches landed.

I just watched Mosley-Collazo again, and I challenge anybody to find a round that if Collazo didn't land a couple to a handful more clean blows that he wouldn't won(except the knockdown round where he was caught off balance coming in). Every round was very competitive, Collazo broke his hand, and he only had 1 month to train for the fight, because he was a substitute for Cintron against Mosley.

[JonesJrMayweather]

yeah and i just rewatched pbf's whole career dvd set, and if he fought anybody with shane's skills and pwoer he'd be beat..and surely you can't compare the 154 delahoya to the 147 delahoya that fought shane...that's ;ike saying shane is the same as he was 154..

[Trainer Monkey]

it wasn't insured that's why offered a reward for the return...

No,its personal property so of course youd offer a reward to have it returned.
And you just contradicted yourself if he was so broke,where did he find the money to even offer a reward for 5 million in jewelery?

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

Something to keep in mind
If you owe 6 million in taxes,that means you had a significantly higher amount in income to be taxed in that fiscal year.
He made more off the interest and investment off that money,then the IRS fine

[JonesJrMayweather]

No,its personal property so of course youd offer a reward to have it returned.
And you just contradicted yourself if he was so broke,where did he find the money to even offer a reward for 5 million in jewelery?

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

Something to keep in mind
If you owe 6 million in taxes,that means you had a significantly higher amount in income to be taxed in that fiscal year.
He made more off the interest and investment off that money,then the IRS fine

Money Woes Continue To Press Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Boxing News

floyd needs money...fuck what youre saying. Anybody who spends money like that, has a gambling problem, poor investment in filthy rich records which still hasnt sold a record, constantly lies about how much he's worth said he got 20mill for wwe when it was just 2mil. Floyd's money mayweather bullshit seems to have gotten into his head more than anyone else.

he'll be back for the money, which mean he'll be fighting the little non threatening winner of pac v hatton..and not shane the undisputed WW champ.

[Trainer Monkey]

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

Something to keep in mind
If you owe 6 million in taxes,that means you had a significantly higher amount in income to be taxed in that fiscal year.
He made more off the interest and investment off that money,then the IRS fine

Money Woes Continue To Press Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Boxing News

floyd needs money...fuck what youre saying. Anybody who spends money like that, has a gambling problem, poor investment in filthy rich records which still hasnt sold a record, constantly lies about how much he's worth said he got 20mill for wwe when it was just 2mil. Floyd's money mayweather bullshit seems to have gotten into his head more than anyone else.

he'll be back for the money, which mean he'll be fighting the little non threatening winner of pac v hatton..and not shane the undisputed WW champ.

He made more then he lost on that one stupid WWE PPV he showed up at

[RP33]

i think between JT rock, ICB, TM and myself among others that this guy has handily gotten rocked in this thread.

it's just funny how he speaks of the "old members" vouching for him, when it's the old members calling him an idiot.

See: delusional

[JT Rock]

never said he was broke, and he only offered 100k for for the return of 5 mil in jewelry...

and if you lose 5 in jewelry plus 6 to the feds...thats almost half of the money he won against delahoya

Something to keep in mind
If you owe 6 million in taxes,that means you had a significantly higher amount in income to be taxed in that fiscal year.
He made more off the interest and investment off that money,then the IRS fine

Money Woes Continue To Press Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Boxing News

floyd needs money...fuck what youre saying. Anybody who spends money like that, has a gambling problem, poor investment in filthy rich records which still hasnt sold a record, constantly lies about how much he's worth said he got 20mill for wwe when it was just 2mil. Floyd's money mayweather bullshit seems to have gotten into his head more than anyone else.

he'll be back for the money, which mean he'll be fighting the little non threatening winner of pac v hatton..and not shane the undisputed WW champ.

Are you crazy and delusional.... Floyd offered to fight Shane years ago and Shane didnt want anypart of him, now all of a sudden Floyd is afraid of fighting Mosley?