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Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. JM Marquez
3. Calzaghe
4. Hopkins
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Mosley
7. Rafael Marquez
8. Ivan Calderon
9. Hatton
10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero
Hope Caballero can land a fight with no. 5 Izzy or no. 7 Rafa... 122 is a very hot division ...
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Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List
We will try to group these top 10 boxers according to who can fight who.
Group 1:
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. JM Marquez
9. Hatton
Group 2:
3. Calzaghe
4. Hopkins
Group 3:
5. Israel Vazquez
7. Rafael Marquez
10. Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero
Group 4:
6. Mosley
Group 5:
8. Ivan Calderon
According to this groupings, Caballero should fight Vazquez or Rafa next...
Mosley might be too big for group 1 boxers... Ivan is so lonely at the top...
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Why is Celestino Caballero there though ? other fighters like.Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.
Chad Dawson
Chris John
Sergiy Dzinziruk
Vic Darchinyan
ETC.
I think all these fighters have a much better case, Steve Molitor was a good fighter. But he was still unproven IMO, and he wasn't really close to the top 10 P4P rankings, i just find it odd why now they choose to have Celestino Caballero there.
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I personally would have Dawson at 10.
Re: Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero cracks Ring Mag's P4P List
Caballero's wins over Ponce De Leon, Somsak, Lorenzo Parra, Steve Molitor got some recognition...
Roberto Duran might also have elevated Caballero's popularity...
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I had no idea Caballero was closing in on the top 10 p4p. I thought he would be in the 14-20 range.
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Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.
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What about Tomasz Adamek ? Eric Harding ?Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.
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He fought a really close fight with Glen Johnson regardless of who wins that one, he beat Thomasz Adamek almost every single round(The top cruiserweight in the world) and one of the best LHW's before Chad beat him, He beat Tarver almost every round, and he beat Eric Harding almost every round.Dawson got pasy johnson by the skin of his teeth, and beat Tarver, that's it. Man the guy looks like he has skills but has done nothing at all to be spoken about as a top 10 p4p fighter in the world right now... not even close.
Are you honestly going to say Caballero deserves to be in the top 10 p4p more than him?
I honeslty think Wladimir Klitschko deserves a mention he has beaten a lot of name fighters and guys who are good at heavyweight since he last was knocked out, including avenging that loss. IMO I would have him above Caballero based on opposition.
Also I don't even think Caballero is as good JML, this kid beat Ponce De Leon way faster, Destroyed Andrade, Figueora, and now Medina all in the first round. I'm not sure if even Marquez or Vazquez will be able to handle JML I think he should be in there even anyone besides the two mexicans deserve to be at 122.
Also p4p isn't just about opposition, its how good you are, Mayweather before he had a huge resume was up there because people could see how good he was, Caballero isn't as good as Chad Dawson or JML thats why I don't think he belongs there.
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With Margarito exiting it meant Cotto also went which created an vacant spot. Had Margarito won Cotto would have remained!Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.
Chad arguably lost to Johnson, John has done nothing since fighting Marquez & that win is disputable, Caballero's opposition is superior to Dzindziruk's imo & Donaire would have to be above Darchinyan! Caballero has a good argument to be there!!!Why is Celestino Caballero there though ? other fighters like.
Chad Dawson
Chris John
Sergiy Dzinziruk
Vic Darchinyan
ETC.
I think all these fighters have a much better case, Steve Molitor was a good fighter. But he was still unproven IMO, and he wasn't really close to the top 10 P4P rankings, i just find it odd why now they choose to have Celestino Caballero there.
Exactly! Some quality & dominate wins there!!!
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With Margarito exiting it meant Cotto also went which created an vacant spot. Had Margarito won Cotto would have remained!Look at Mosley coming in at #6!! I find it odd that Caballero is entered now and not directly after beating Molitor, grats to him though.
Chad arguably lost to Johnson, John has done nothing since fighting Marquez & that win is disputable, Caballero's opposition is superior to Dzindziruk's imo & Donaire would have to be above Darchinyan! Caballero has a good argument to be there!!!
Exactly! Some quality & dominate wins there!!!
It is closer than that.
Dzinzurik beat Daniel Santos, Konecny, and Joel Julio and is undefeated after 36 professional fights. Maybe he is just very close to the top ten. One more win over a quality opponent should land him in there.
John merits a spot or very close to a spot if he wins his fight in February.
Since losing to Donaire, Darchinyan been very active. He has fought four times with wins over Kirilov and Mijares who was a top ten p4p. Donaire has fought twice and neither fight was on the level of Mijares. Nonetheless, Vic should make the list if he beats Arce.
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Vic Darchinyan should be up there.
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