Manny Pac the worst P4P #1 ever.

[XaduBoxer]

Another one caught hook line and sinker!!!

as I recall only Kostya Tszyu got close as the best ausi boxer Australia ever produced but to think he is russian..a boxer best remembered as the one mugged by hatton. Is It jealousy? or is it because he is asian?
as of now youve got to accept that PAC is the man to beat and boxing's numero UNO...GOT it...

even the great sugar ray leonard, winky wright, bernard hopkins and ETC aggrees that PAC as the number 1 fighter now. and even tyson applied to be PACs asst trainer so who ARE you naming PAC as the worst P4P1 fighter ever.

I agree Pac is #1 now. What point are u trying to make in this thread?
Yeah he is Asian, so fucken what? I have heaps of Asian mates. I dont even hate Manny i think he is a good fighter and fun to watch.
Yeah Australia hasnt produced that many great fighters, mainly because boxing is a minor sport in our country and because Australia is a rich country and ppl dont have to fight their way out of poverty.

Difference is Phillipines has one world class sports star and when he is gone they will have nothing, whilst us poor Aussies will just have to console ourselves watching our world class, rugby, cricket, surfing, motorcycle riders, F1 drivers, olympic athletes, etc etc etc etc. Yeah im jealous of u.

But remember we are boxing fans and PAC is the man right now in boxing... You have to live with that... You don't have to waste your time trying to degrade the guy because you can't stand some of his fans... You only look like a fool doing that... What you've been doing is not actually something that you can brag about... Wind up people here and brag about it??

We're boxing fans and we will continue to enjoy the sport... Enjoy the best fights the sport can offer today... Are you with me?? Or you feeling to watch a cricket game all day?? (Does cricket has lively forums like boxing??)

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[The Congressman]

Another one caught hook line and sinker!!!

as I recall only Kostya Tszyu got close as the best ausi boxer Australia ever produced but to think he is russian..a boxer best remembered as the one mugged by hatton. Is It jealousy? or is it because he is asian?
as of now youve got to accept that PAC is the man to beat and boxing's numero UNO...GOT it...

even the great sugar ray leonard, winky wright, bernard hopkins and ETC aggrees that PAC as the number 1 fighter now. and even tyson applied to be PACs asst trainer so who ARE you naming PAC as the worst P4P1 fighter ever.

I agree Pac is #1 now. What point are u trying to make in this thread?
Yeah he is Asian, so fucken what? I have heaps of Asian mates. I dont even hate Manny i think he is a good fighter and fun to watch.
Yeah Australia hasnt produced that many great fighters, mainly because boxing is a minor sport in our country and because Australia is a rich country and ppl dont have to fight their way out of poverty.

Difference is Phillipines has one world class sports star and when he is gone they will have nothing, whilst us poor Aussies will just have to console ourselves watching our world class, rugby, cricket, surfing, motorcycle riders, F1 drivers, olympic athletes, etc etc etc etc. Yeah im jealous of u.

Darchinyan just won by an impressive 1-punch KO. So I guess he's Australian again to you eey?

[miron_lang]

Its a sad day for boxing when a guy as limited as Manny is the top fighter in the sport....
What makes it worse is that he is only in the top spot thru bad judging, and retirements. I mean anyone who knows boxing clearly could see that JMM won their 2 fights, and if Joe C and particularly PBF were still around Manny would be 3 at best.
Top P4P fighters used to be great fighters like Roy jones, Pernell Whitaker, PBF, BHOP, and Trinidad. All guys that P4P would destroy Manny.

He's fighting PBF so we will know. for the others too bad we wont know for sure. BUT PAC Kayoes all of them i think

LOL

The Legends

Marco Antonio Barrera - One of the best pound for pound fighters in the world and Linear Featherweight champion. - TKO11, UD12

Erik Morales - 3 Division champion. One of the best pound for pound fighters. TKO10, KO3

Juan Manuel Marquez - Former Featherweight, S. Feather and Lightweight Champion - SD12

Oscar DelaHoya - 6 Division World Champion. TKO8




The Champions

Miguel Cotto - Considered the #2 Welterweight behind Mosley whom he beat. 3 Time, 2 Division Champion. TKO12

Ricky Hatton - Linear Champion at 140. Undefeated at 140. KO2

Oscar Larios - 2 Weight Division champion. A champion before and after Pac - UD

Chatchai Sasakul - A linear Flyweight champion and has legendary status in Thailand. TKO8

Lehlohonolo Ledwabba - The best 122lbs fighter at the time. p4p fighter Top 15. TKO6

David Diaz - Kayoed Sta. Cruz who beat Cassamayor but lost in the cards. TKO 9

Jorge Elicier Julio - 2 Time World Champion never been stopped before. KO2





The Contenders


Jorge Solis - Undefeated chalenger (33-0). Fought for World title TKO8

Nedal Hussein - Title chalenger. Very tough and dirty fighter. TKO10

Hector Velasquez - A class A journeyman TKO6

Emmanuel Lucero - Undefeated chalenger TKO3

Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym - 2 time Championship chalenger KO1

[THE THIRD MAN]

Its a sad day for boxing when a guy as limited as Manny is the top fighter in the sport....
What makes it worse is that he is only in the top spot thru bad judging, and retirements. I mean anyone who knows boxing clearly could see that JMM won their 2 fights, and if Joe C and particularly PBF were still around Manny would be 3 at best.
Top P4P fighters used to be great fighters like Roy jones, Pernell Whitaker, PBF, BHOP, and Trinidad. All guys that P4P would destroy Manny.

Eagle, there must be something in your vegemite this morning? Pacquiao has fought Barrera, Morales, Marquez twice, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito in the past few years along with wins over Solis, Diaz and Larios and you reckon he is a sub standard PFP no.1? He has lost once in 11 years against Morales in 2005 and avenged that loss twice in the the following 18 months. If Manny is so limited, how has he manged to beat all of these guys? DLH was supposed to have blown him away, Hatton and Cotto were going to do it too? We all want to see him up against Floyd, would a win there be sufficient for a PFF no.1 ranking from you?

[Gandalf]

Its a sad day for boxing when a guy as limited as Manny is the top fighter in the sport....
What makes it worse is that he is only in the top spot thru bad judging, and retirements. I mean anyone who knows boxing clearly could see that JMM won their 2 fights, and if Joe C and particularly PBF were still around Manny would be 3 at best.
Top P4P fighters used to be great fighters like Roy jones, Pernell Whitaker, PBF, BHOP, and Trinidad. All guys that P4P would destroy Manny.

Eagle, there must be something in your vegemite this morning? Pacquiao has fought Barrera, Morales, Marquez twice, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito in the past few years along with wins over Solis, Diaz and Larios and you reckon he is a sub standard PFP no.1? He has lost once in 11 years against Morales in 2005 and avenged that loss twice in the the following 18 months. If Manny is so limited, how has he manged to beat all of these guys? DLH was supposed to have blown him away, Hatton and Cotto were going to do it too? We all want to see him up against Floyd, would a win there be sufficient for a PFF no.1 ranking from you?

We should put this thread into perspective. It was made a long time ago. Manny's fight with Marquez was still fresh in the minds of many and Manny hadn't quite become the wrecking machine that he is today.

Eagle has probably re-evaluated his position somewhat. Just as many others have too. Hidsight is all well and good, but I don't think it serves any greater purpose to rake up old threads and put old opinions down. Times change and just as Manny has changed so have the thoughts of many of us too.

Not that you reignited the thread mind.

[zhubin]

Its a sad day for boxing when a guy as limited as Manny is the top fighter in the sport....
What makes it worse is that he is only in the top spot thru bad judging, and retirements. I mean anyone who knows boxing clearly could see that JMM won their 2 fights, and if Joe C and particularly PBF were still around Manny would be 3 at best.
Top P4P fighters used to be great fighters like Roy jones, Pernell Whitaker, PBF, BHOP, and Trinidad. All guys that P4P would destroy Manny.

Eagle, there must be something in your vegemite this morning? Pacquiao has fought Barrera, Morales, Marquez twice, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito in the past few years along with wins over Solis, Diaz and Larios and you reckon he is a sub standard PFP no.1? He has lost once in 11 years against Morales in 2005 and avenged that loss twice in the the following 18 months. If Manny is so limited, how has he manged to beat all of these guys? DLH was supposed to have blown him away, Hatton and Cotto were going to do it too? We all want to see him up against Floyd, would a win there be sufficient for a PFF no.1 ranking from you?

We should put this thread into perspective. It was made a long time ago. Manny's fight with Marquez was still fresh in the minds of many and Manny hadn't quite become the wrecking machine that he is today.

Eagle has probably re-evaluated his position somewhat. Just as many others have too. Hidsight is all well and good, but I don't think it serves any greater purpose to rake up old threads and put old opinions down. Times change and just as Manny has changed so have the thoughts of many of us too.

Not that you reignited the thread mind.

Because he was not quite the wrecking machine that he is today?!!! It's because he has not fought a fighter like Marquez since 2008! It is easy to look like a wrecking machine against fighters that have issues and are past it...AND they suit your style perfectly by coming forward. Some of us aint drinking the kool aid! You clearly think Manny can beat Floyd. But lets say your new found idol loses...lets say Floyd exposes him worse than Marquez did. Will you be man enough to admit his recent wins where overhyped?! Hope so.

[Gandalf]

Its a sad day for boxing when a guy as limited as Manny is the top fighter in the sport....
What makes it worse is that he is only in the top spot thru bad judging, and retirements. I mean anyone who knows boxing clearly could see that JMM won their 2 fights, and if Joe C and particularly PBF were still around Manny would be 3 at best.
Top P4P fighters used to be great fighters like Roy jones, Pernell Whitaker, PBF, BHOP, and Trinidad. All guys that P4P would destroy Manny.

Eagle, there must be something in your vegemite this morning? Pacquiao has fought Barrera, Morales, Marquez twice, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito in the past few years along with wins over Solis, Diaz and Larios and you reckon he is a sub standard PFP no.1? He has lost once in 11 years against Morales in 2005 and avenged that loss twice in the the following 18 months. If Manny is so limited, how has he manged to beat all of these guys? DLH was supposed to have blown him away, Hatton and Cotto were going to do it too? We all want to see him up against Floyd, would a win there be sufficient for a PFF no.1 ranking from you?

We should put this thread into perspective. It was made a long time ago. Manny's fight with Marquez was still fresh in the minds of many and Manny hadn't quite become the wrecking machine that he is today.

Eagle has probably re-evaluated his position somewhat. Just as many others have too. Hidsight is all well and good, but I don't think it serves any greater purpose to rake up old threads and put old opinions down. Times change and just as Manny has changed so have the thoughts of many of us too.

Not that you reignited the thread mind.

Because he was not quite the wrecking machine that he is today?!!! It's because he has not fought a fighter like Marquez since 2008! It is easy to look like a wrecking machine against fighters that have issues and are past it...AND they suit your style perfectly by coming forward. Some of us aint drinking the kool aid! You clearly think Manny can beat Floyd. But lets say your new found idol loses...lets say Floyd exposes him worse than Marquez did. Will you be man enough to admit his recent wins where overhyped?! Hope so.

Manny is not my idol, but I respect what he has been doing. I do think Manny has the tools to beat Floyd, but if he gets his rear end spanked then of course I will hold my hands up and say 'I got that one a bit wrong'. I've never been one to run away when I get a pick wrong and like with any boxing fan, I have my fair share of them.

No big deal for me.

[zhubin]

Its a sad day for boxing when a guy as limited as Manny is the top fighter in the sport....
What makes it worse is that he is only in the top spot thru bad judging, and retirements. I mean anyone who knows boxing clearly could see that JMM won their 2 fights, and if Joe C and particularly PBF were still around Manny would be 3 at best.
Top P4P fighters used to be great fighters like Roy jones, Pernell Whitaker, PBF, BHOP, and Trinidad. All guys that P4P would destroy Manny.

Eagle, there must be something in your vegemite this morning? Pacquiao has fought Barrera, Morales, Marquez twice, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito in the past few years along with wins over Solis, Diaz and Larios and you reckon he is a sub standard PFP no.1? He has lost once in 11 years against Morales in 2005 and avenged that loss twice in the the following 18 months. If Manny is so limited, how has he manged to beat all of these guys? DLH was supposed to have blown him away, Hatton and Cotto were going to do it too? We all want to see him up against Floyd, would a win there be sufficient for a PFF no.1 ranking from you?

Can you enlighten me on who said Manny was going to get "blown away" by Oscar, Hatton, or Cotto?! I certainly didn't think he was...neither did many other people on this board. That is what is so ridiculous about some of you Pac fans. Trying to somehow make his recent wins extraordinary because you claim no one expected them. As an example...i, along with almost everyone else on this board (not to mention the media), fully expected Pac to destroy Margo...because Margo is a limited, slow, mentally weakened fighter (he got exposed as a cheater). Now whether Pac was stupid in allowing himself to take Margo's shots or his defense is porous, or he simply was trying to show heart...is besides the point. He beat a fighter HE WAS SUPPOSED TO EASILY BEAT. Fact is...he has not faced a great fighter on top of their game since Marquez. If he fights Floyd and wins...you can justify the hype.