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    Default If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    I dont know if its a recent trend but I have noticed in the last few years how good victorys are played down after the fight has taken place by experts/fans who pick the wrong winner.


    For example most thought that De La Hoya was going to beat Pac-Man but when he lost it was not a case of Pac-man being good rather ODLH being bad.


    Same thing happened with Calzaghe-Lacy and Hatton-Tsyu.

    Seems to me that a lot of so called experts dont like it when the pick the wrong result and have to make excuses for it.


    So after the fight tonight I just hope that the winner gets the credit he deservers.
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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Barrera is older, smaller and rated way past his best by everyone.

    Khan can't really win in this one.
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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Barrera is older, smaller and rated way past his best by everyone.

    Khan can't really win in this one.
    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Barrera is older, smaller and rated way past his best by everyone.

    Khan can't really win in this one.
    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Barrera is older, smaller and rated way past his best by everyone.

    Khan can't really win in this one.
    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    thats about the top and bottom of it really... but got to say it credit to Warren and Khan for taking this fight and after seeing Barrera GOING THOUGH WITH IT

    but you are totally right... it is a no win situation.

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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Personally I'll give Khan credit as long as Barrera doesn't quit early or get blown away early - Signs he shouldn't have even been in the ring.

    I agree it's a good match made by FW.

    I didn't think it would go through
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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    thats about the top and bottom of it really... but got to say it credit to Warren and Khan for taking this fight and after seeing Barrera GOING THOUGH WITH IT

    but you are totally right... it is a no win situation.
    I'm always giving Warren stick but I agree totally. Props to Warren and Khan for going through with this. It's great for the fans and I think the card looks pretty strong. Fantastic.

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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Barrera is older, smaller and rated way past his best by everyone.

    Khan can't really win in this one.
    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    You're right there, damned if you do or don't.

    But it could also depend on how Barerra loses if he loses.

    If he goes out there and doesnt do anything and just gets beat for 12 rounds and not pulling the trigger then yeah the shot comments will come in like no tomorrow.

    But if he goes in there and gives it all that he has left giving 110 percent and Khan beats him still then I'd say they both win. Because it would show Barerra can still go and that Khan may be ready to use all that potential.

    It all depends how the fight goes.

    Same goes for Khan. If he goes out there and gets knocked out then it will turn into Laugh at a Khan month. But if he goes out there and loses a tough fight against Barerra who brought his all and he brings his all as well then him and Barerra both win.

    So I guess it depends on how one or the other loses or wins this fight. What if its a draw?
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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    You're right there, damned if you do or don't.

    But it could also depend on how Barerra loses if he loses.

    If he goes out there and doesnt do anything and just gets beat for 12 rounds and not pulling the trigger then yeah the shot comments will come in like no tomorrow.

    But if he goes in there and gives it all that he has left giving 110 percent and Khan beats him still then I'd say they both win. Because it would show Barerra can still go and that Khan may be ready to use all that potential.

    It all depends how the fight goes.

    Same goes for Khan. If he goes out there and gets knocked out then it will turn into Laugh at a Khan month. But if he goes out there and loses a tough fight against Barerra who brought his all and he brings his all as well then him and Barerra both win.

    So I guess it depends on how one or the other loses or wins this fight. What if its a draw?
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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Barrera is older, smaller and rated way past his best by everyone.

    Khan can't really win in this one.
    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    You're 100% correct.

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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Barrera is older, smaller and rated way past his best by everyone.

    Khan can't really win in this one.
    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    You're only talking about the opinions of hardcore boxing fans who post on forums though Fenster.

    If Khan wins the fight he wins huge in terms of future earning power, probably immediate title shot, massive tv coverage and he will be back to being the golden boy of British boxing again.

    The comments of Violent Demise on Saddo's and similar non descripts on Eastside and Dog House won't affect his future in any way shape or form.


    Look at Manny, ok on here he's not getting credit, but that hasn't stopped the rest of the world hailing him as the worlds best p4p fighter, and who now has already lined up another huge pay day and mega fight against Ricky Hatton who HBO are covering in a 24/7 show and will generate near record breaking ppv numbers.

    Does Manny care one bit that posters on here arn't giving him full credit, my belief is that he does not.


    Ultimately as important as we like to think our opinions are the fact is the boxing world hasn't heard of any of us and doesn't give two shits what we think. Even Steve Bunce continues to be even aware of our existence every time he talks about boxing on the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    You're only talking about the opinions of hardcore boxing fans who post on forums though Fenster.

    If Khan wins the fight he wins huge in terms of future earning power, probably immediate title shot, massive tv coverage and he will be back to being the golden boy of British boxing again.

    The comments of Violent Demise on Saddo's and similar non descripts on Eastside and Dog House won't affect his future in any way shape or form.


    Look at Manny, ok on here he's not getting credit, but that hasn't stopped the rest of the world hailing him as the worlds best p4p fighter, and who now has already lined up another huge pay day and mega fight against Ricky Hatton who HBO are covering in a 24/7 show and will generate near record breaking ppv numbers.

    Does Manny care one bit that posters on here arn't giving him full credit, my belief is that he does not.


    Ultimately as important as we like to think our opinions are the fact is the boxing world hasn't heard of any of us and doesn't give two shits what we think. Even Steve Bunce continues to be even aware of our existence every time he talks about boxing on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    You're only talking about the opinions of hardcore boxing fans who post on forums though Fenster.

    If Khan wins the fight he wins huge in terms of future earning power, probably immediate title shot, massive tv coverage and he will be back to being the golden boy of British boxing again.

    The comments of Violent Demise on Saddo's and similar non descripts on Eastside and Dog House won't affect his future in any way shape or form.


    Look at Manny, ok on here he's not getting credit, but that hasn't stopped the rest of the world hailing him as the worlds best p4p fighter, and who now has already lined up another huge pay day and mega fight against Ricky Hatton who HBO are covering in a 24/7 show and will generate near record breaking ppv numbers.

    Does Manny care one bit that posters on here arn't giving him full credit, my belief is that he does not.


    Ultimately as important as we like to think our opinions are the fact is the boxing world hasn't heard of any of us and doesn't give two shits what we think. Even Steve Bunce continues to be even aware of our existence every time he talks about boxing on the internet.
    I'm sure he will. Con will get his credit mostly in the UK. It's the UK that foolishly build him up. And it's the UK that watched in horror as he crashed and burn. So obviosly it's the UK that will try and salvage what it can. Even if it means exaggerating. The rest of the world sees what's in front of it and goes by that. And that is Barrera is done as a fighter. It's like this. The Barrera that Con beat on Saturday. If your where to change his name to lets say Jose Martinez. Or Bobby Smith. The win means nothing. But since the name said Barrera the UK decides to over hype it. But in reality all Con did was beat an older, smaller, weaker fighter who was handicapped by a head butt induced cut. Yeah real impressive

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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Barrera is older, smaller and rated way past his best by everyone.

    Khan can't really win in this one.
    Not stopping people from picking Barerra to knock him out is it?
    That's the point.

    If Barrera wins everyone laughs at Khan, if Barrera loses he was shot.

    Khan can't win
    Barrera is shot!!

    He isstill a good fighter but his best days are a few years ago and his best weight a few pounds ago, Warren has chosen Marco for his name value.

    I think Marco still has what it takes to splatter Khan, if Gomez can have Khan hurt, a very clever, hard, experienced and genuine world class fighter like Marco deffinitly can.

    If Khan wins, who did he beat? He beat someone who retired, someone who hasnt fought any ranked fighters at lightweight.

    Khan has it all to lose, whereas if Marco wins, it will look good for a few days, then the reality will kick in that "oh hold on, Khan was knocked out in the first a couple of fights ago" and everyone will realise that Khan just hasnbt got what it takes to live with someone with a bit of class about em.

    All being said, id be sad to see someone of Khans lowly abilitys taking Marco, its not right, he doesnt deserve a win over a hardworking great.

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    Default Re: If Khan wins tonight,NO EXCUSES PLEASE!

    No excuses with a clean victory.Think people need to state exactly where they stand prior to a fight.I do believe Barrera is on the other side if it,but even at this point is a notch up on Khan I believe.Khan has size,speed,youth,homefield,range.But Im going with Barrera on big fight and over all experience via mid round TKO,6 or 7th round.Khan has never been in this deep...more mentally than physically... and he will be well suited to go after that nasty cut and protect his chin made of matchsticks.If Khan wins,he beat a legend and future HOF'r.If Barrera wins,he beat a young vulnerable prospect .....of course you can just flip that to suit ones own agenda

    This is Khans sink or swim moment...he better bring his floaties and snorkle.

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