HATTON v PACQUIAO

[happytrip]

So long Ricky....i told you not to brawl Manny.I warned you.

[ukansodoff]

I think brawling was his best and only option, he was never guna outbox him. But at this level you need to be a calculated brawler. He wasnt.

He couldnt afford to go in gung ho like hes done in the past, he needed to earn his way in and then go to work, we knew manny would get Hatton on the way in what ever he did but christ he made it easy for Pacman.

I just cant believe they didnt train with all that in mind, id accept that he tried to go in as safe as he could but still got the pasting but he was just wide open to it. If id known he was guna have his chin out like that, get clouted then leave it out again in the exact same way id of favoured Manny from the start.

[ukansodoff]

I think brawling was his best and only option, he was never guna outbox him. But at this level you need to be a calculated brawler. He wasnt.

He couldnt afford to go in gung ho like hes done in the past, he needed to earn his way in and then go to work, we knew manny would get Hatton on the way in what ever he did but christ he made it easy for Pacman.

I just cant believe they didnt train with all that in mind, id accept that he tried to go in as safe as he could but still got the pasting but he was just wide open to it. If id known he was guna have his chin out like that, get clouted then leave it out again in the exact same way id of favoured Manny from the start.

[ukansodoff]

I think brawling was his best and only option, he was never guna outbox him. But at this level you need to be a calculated brawler. He wasnt.

He couldnt afford to go in gung ho like hes done in the past, he needed to earn his way in and then go to work, we knew manny would get Hatton on the way in what ever he did but christ he made it easy for Pacman.

I just cant believe they didnt train with all that in mind, id accept that he tried to go in as safe as he could but still got the pasting but he was just wide open to it. If id known he was guna have his chin out like that, get clouted then leave it out again in the exact same way id of favoured Manny from the start.

[happytrip]

I think brawling was his best and only option, he was never guna outbox him. But at this level you need to be a calculated brawler. He wasnt.

He couldnt afford to go in gung ho like hes done in the past, he needed to earn his way in and then go to work, we knew manny would get Hatton on the way in what ever he did but christ he made it easy for Pacman.

I just cant believe they didnt train with all that in mind, id accept that he tried to go in as safe as he could but still got the pasting but he was just wide open to it. If id known he was guna have his chin out like that, get clouted then leave it out again in the exact same way id of favoured Manny from the start.

maybe you are right,but he should have charged on MANNY from an angle,not straightforward as he had done all the time...another approach is for him to be patient in boxing in and out of MANNY,and wait for the right instance to go all out.He landed several solid body blows,but he kept on pressing with his head open.You cant stay open for MANNY for 10 seconds.He will thug your head at any time.

I can sense HATTON disobeyed instructions from his corner.He simply does not have the capacity to adjust.To be frank about this,i can see BOXER oozing with so much pride in HATTON.Simply hardheaded......oppps sorry about this comment.

[happytrip]

I think brawling was his best and only option, he was never guna outbox him. But at this level you need to be a calculated brawler. He wasnt.

He couldnt afford to go in gung ho like hes done in the past, he needed to earn his way in and then go to work, we knew manny would get Hatton on the way in what ever he did but christ he made it easy for Pacman.

I just cant believe they didnt train with all that in mind, id accept that he tried to go in as safe as he could but still got the pasting but he was just wide open to it. If id known he was guna have his chin out like that, get clouted then leave it out again in the exact same way id of favoured Manny from the start.

maybe you are right,but he should have charged on MANNY from an angle,not straightforward as he had done all the time...another approach is for him to be patient in boxing in and out of MANNY,and wait for the right instance to go all out.He landed several solid body blows,but he kept on pressing with his head open.You cant stay open for MANNY for 10 seconds.He will thug your head at any time.

I can sense HATTON disobeyed instructions from his corner.He simply does not have the capacity to adjust.To be frank about this,i can see a BOXER oozing with so much pride in HATTON.Simply hardheaded......oppps sorry about this comment...btw i heard a rift between hatton and his trainer....

[happytrip]

I think brawling was his best and only option, he was never guna outbox him. But at this level you need to be a calculated brawler. He wasnt.

He couldnt afford to go in gung ho like hes done in the past, he needed to earn his way in and then go to work, we knew manny would get Hatton on the way in what ever he did but christ he made it easy for Pacman.

I just cant believe they didnt train with all that in mind, id accept that he tried to go in as safe as he could but still got the pasting but he was just wide open to it. If id known he was guna have his chin out like that, get clouted then leave it out again in the exact same way id of favoured Manny from the start.

maybe you are right,but he should have charged on MANNY from an angle,not straightforward as he had done all the time...another approach is for him to be patient in boxing in and out of MANNY,and wait for the right instance to go all out.He landed several solid body blows,but he kept on pressing with his head open.You cant stay open for MANNY for 10 seconds.He will thug your head at any time.

I can sense HATTON disobeyed instructions from his corner.He simply does not have the capacity to adjust.To be frank about this,i can see BOXER oozing with so much pride in HATTON.Simply hardheaded......oppps sorry about this comment...btw i heard a rift between hatton and his trainer....

[happytrip]

I think brawling was his best and only option, he was never guna outbox him. But at this level you need to be a calculated brawler. He wasnt.

He couldnt afford to go in gung ho like hes done in the past, he needed to earn his way in and then go to work, we knew manny would get Hatton on the way in what ever he did but christ he made it easy for Pacman.

I just cant believe they didnt train with all that in mind, id accept that he tried to go in as safe as he could but still got the pasting but he was just wide open to it. If id known he was guna have his chin out like that, get clouted then leave it out again in the exact same way id of favoured Manny from the start.

maybe you are right,but he should have charged on MANNY from an angle,not straightforward as he had done all the time...another approach is for him to be patient in boxing in and out of MANNY,and wait for the right instance to go all out.He landed several solid body blows,but he kept on pressing with his head open.You cant stay open for MANNY for 10 seconds.He will thug your head at any time.

I can sense HATTON disobeyed instructions from his corner.He simply does not have the capacity to adjust.To be frank about this,i can see a BOXER oozing with so much pride in HATTON.Simply hardheaded......oppps sorry about this comment...btw i heard a rift between hatton and his trainer....

[Gandalf]

Hatton fought an atrocious fight. I have no idea what was going through his mind. He didn't seem to have a gameplan whatsoever, and his chin has seemingly deserted him.

He had no idea how to deal with punches thrown in bunches besides initiating the clinch. The concept of having a guard for self protection was seemingly not there. He was almost inviting himself to be sparked out.

I'm still having issues coming to terms with what happened exactly. Manny was great, but I'm struggling to believe that was really Ricky Hatton out there. Mindblowing.

[ukansodoff]

Hatton fought an atrocious fight. I have no idea what was going through his mind. He didn't seem to have a gameplan whatsoever, and his chin has seemingly deserted him.

He had no idea how to deal with punches thrown in bunches besides initiating the clinch. The concept of having a guard for self protection was seemingly not there. He was almost inviting himself to be sparked out.

I'm still having issues coming to terms with what happened exactly. Manny was great, but I'm struggling to believe that was really Ricky Hatton out there. Mindblowing.

Im strugglin too, after a fight what ever the result i accept it for what it is, i dont want to take anything away from Pacquiao at all cuz he is what he is and did what he and i dont wana sound like theres excuses comin but i just dont know what the hell happened, though im sure i have more of an idea than Hatton does right now.

Pacman is by far the best boxer Hattons faced, my question is this, Was that really the best Hatton could of done against him?

[happytrip]

Hatton fought an atrocious fight. I have no idea what was going through his mind. He didn't seem to have a gameplan whatsoever, and his chin has seemingly deserted him.

He had no idea how to deal with punches thrown in bunches besides initiating the clinch. The concept of having a guard for self protection was seemingly not there. He was almost inviting himself to be sparked out.

I'm still having issues coming to terms with what happened exactly. Manny was great, but I'm struggling to believe that was really Ricky Hatton out there. Mindblowing.

i suspect a rift with his trainer....

[ukansodoff]

Haha your havin the same problems as me i see on tryin to get your replies loaded.

Hatton DEFINATLY had the power to really hurt Pacman and he did land a couple, if only hed of moved like you say instead of being so dam easy to hit we would of had a proper fight.

But sayin that i had no idea Pacquiao could hit that hard, i knew hed catch Hatton plenty but i just didnt think hed make is so easy for him and i didnt think hed smash Hatton in so much so early.

[Taeth]

Hatton would have never been able to close the gap if he tried to come in at an angle, he didn't commit to coming in like he used to and Pacquiao was able to catch him coming in, even if he did , Pacquiao is skilled enough now to almost fully nullify any offensive Hatton could produce.

He was totally outclassed, and only Marquez and Mayweather IMO stand a chance agianst Manny. Cotto is too slow, Mosley isn't good enough with distance against anyone with talent.

[happytrip]

Hatton would have never been able to close the gap if he tried to come in at an angle, he didn't commit to coming in like he used to and Pacquiao was able to catch him coming in, even if he did , Pacquiao is skilled enough now to almost fully nullify any offensive Hatton could produce.

He was totally outclassed, and only Marquez and Mayweather IMO stand a chance agianst Manny. Cotto is too slow, Mosley isn't good enough with distance against anyone with talent.

good point,but at least HATTON tried something else instead of his usual suicidal attack approach.

[ukansodoff]

it seems one camp very much did their homework, had a strategy that made the most of their abilities while nullifiying their opponants as much as they could.

The other seem to of done fuck all.

It just looked to me that camp Hatton were fighting an unknown boxer. The whole world knows what Pacmans strenghts are just not Mayweather and Lee Beard.

I dont want to take anything away from Pacquiao on this. within 20 seconds of the fight starting i think it was clear who was guna win, and at the end of the 1st round i think we all knew the next round was guna be the last. Ive never seen him hit so hard and hes as quick as hes ver been. Absolutly tremendous he is.

But im left frustrated and a little angry, yes there was a gulf in class i wasnt expecting but i really dont believe that Mayweather and Hatton has took Pacman seriously.

Where as Roach worked on the whole package, Mayweather just thought lettin Hatton off the leash on the night was guna be enough. Hattons always had a thing about stretchin with his shots and leavin himself open, but with big mouth Floyd in his corner being the best coach in the world in his own eyes youd think that they would work on that.

In a fight where its strength v speed we never got to find out about the strength man as his chin was laid on a plate to the speedster.