Judah to RETIRE Hatton

[OumaFan]

Has Judah ever looked like a killer against anybody good? Nevertheless he'll never be that again if he was ever no matter what weight he's fighting at.

Saying Judah was a killer at 140 does make KT's win look better though.

[Spicoli]

Has Judah ever looked like a killer against anybody good? Nevertheless he'll never be that again if he was ever no matter what weight he's fighting at.

Saying Judah was a killer at 140 does make KT's win look better though.

Yep.Think this is a case of more anti hatton than pro Zab.....if there is a God .....he'll allow wonder-Zab to fight Victor Ortiz ,shite I think Bradley and Holt can beat him also.

[TheDemolitionDan]

Even Ricky Hatton of right now could kick the living shit out of that big mouth overrated fighter.

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

Judah wasn't able to take his game up to Welterweight as effective (former Undisputed Welterweight champion) simply for the fact the Power he had at 140 was good, but derived mainly of speed. Against bigger guys, it was less in comparison to what he has against guys at 140. Additionally, the other guys are bigger, stronger with power of their own. Furthermore, he was even Faster at 140. Given that he is 31, going down i weight should see him just as fast as anytime at 147, and he will be More powerful.

Judah looked like a killer beating other top ten guys at 140. That was all based upon projection. He defeated Corley at 140 for the WBO belt after his loss to Tszyu. He rushed up to 147 because of the Spinks offer, and won one of them. Spinks was a light puncher. Against bigger guys, he had some trouble Cotto, Clottey, and was simply outboxed by Mayweather. Baldomir, well he's still Zab Judah after all.......bound to stuff it up somewhere along the line.

Technically, he fights in spurts. In the later rounds of fights, he wasnt solid enough at 147 to beat the best BIG guys. What he has learnt a touch is what it is in there with big bangers, and that brought maturity to his immature head boxing wise.

AT 140.........very dangerous. He will knock Hatton out, mainly because of the fact he will prove he has the same speed, Good Power at 140, as oppossed to Ok power at 147, and his opponents are weaker. Cotto and Clottey are bigger than Hatton. He's a Southpaw. The right hook from the southpaw stance, of which Judah has a good one spells trouble for Hatton. Pacquiao showed how to nail and fast right hook on Hatton from the Southpaw stance. He barely even survived Collazo

Quote: Even Ricky Hatton of right now could kick the living shit out of that big mouth overrated fighter.

The better man will win! I think Judah is a better boxer, and beating up one Hatton sets up the possibility of fighting the other. There are few others that Hatton can make as much money with given the name recognition and flashy style. Being beaten savagely by Judah is like a nightmare isn't it

First Judah will beat up his brother. Then he will come to England and beat the sh*t out of Ricky Gangster Style, as he rapes and piledges him in front of ya all.

Keep your guard up

[Quinito]

Is Matthew any good? i've never seen him fight before. is he also a face first brawler like ricky?

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

I've never seen Matthew Hatton fight either, as although hes fought on Ricky undercards, they werent aired. Thats a hint, together with the fact he's supposed to be Rickys lesser interms of boxing..

[skel1983]

Matthew Hatton is shit, average fighter who has a padded record and has fought one decent domestic rival who is probably ranked about 4/5 in the British 147 rankings and was out boxed on the Lazcano undercard, Hatton is a fraud and should of fought a handful of guys at domestic level but obviously knows it would end all his £££ making off Rickys back.

Judah will make him look stupid if he has prepared properly.

[bzkfn]

Judah wasn't able to take his game up to Welterweight as effective (former Undisputed Welterweight champion) simply for the fact the Power he had at 140 was good, but derived mainly of speed. Against bigger guys, it was less in comparison to what he has against guys at 140. Additionally, the other guys are bigger, stronger with power of their own. Furthermore, he was even Faster at 140. Given that he is 31, going down i weight should see him just as fast as anytime at 147, and he will be More powerful.

Judah looked like a killer beating other top ten guys at 140. That was all based upon projection. He defeated Corley at 140 for the WBO belt after his loss to Tszyu. He rushed up to 147 because of the Spinks offer, and won one of them. Spinks was a light puncher. Against bigger guys, he had some trouble Cotto, Clottey, and was simply outboxed by Mayweather. Baldomir, well he's still Zab Judah after all.......bound to stuff it up somewhere along the line.

Technically, he fights in spurts. In the later rounds of fights, he wasnt solid enough at 147 to beat the best BIG guys. What he has learnt a touch is what it is in there with big bangers, and that brought maturity to his immature head boxing wise.

AT 140.........very dangerous. He will knock Hatton out, mainly because of the fact he will prove he has the same speed, Good Power at 140, as oppossed to Ok power at 147, and his opponents are weaker. Cotto and Clottey are bigger than Hatton. He's a Southpaw. The right hook from the southpaw stance, of which Judah has a good one spells trouble for Hatton. Pacquiao showed how to nail and fast right hook on Hatton from the Southpaw stance. He barely even survived Collazo

Quote: Even Ricky Hatton of right now could kick the living shit out of that big mouth overrated fighter.

The better man will win! I think Judah is a better boxer, and beating up one Hatton sets up the possibility of fighting the other. There are few others that Hatton can make as much money with given the name recognition and flashy style. Being beaten savagely by Judah is like a nightmare isn't it

First Judah will beat up his brother. Then he will come to England and beat the sh*t out of Ricky Gangster Style, as he rapes and piledges him in front of ya all.

Keep your guard up

You talk as if its a done deal. Why would Hatton even bother with Judah? It wouldn't prove shit if he won, he's much more likely to retire than face the guy who's had his arse handed to him time after time. It's clear you make these threads because Ricky sent Tszyu packing into retirement, after making him quit on his stool.

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

What is clear is that Zab Judah is looking for Big Fights at 140, has name recognition, and is seen as high risk. He wants to be paid, and the fact is he is fighting Rickys brother Mathew, not because he's actually interested in Matthew Hatton which does nothing for his career, but he's interested in fighting ANY fighter where he can make money. He could make money in a Ricky Hatton fight. Maybe Ricky will Quit. The facts of the matter are, Hatton hasn't retired yet, and if he is to continue, he too is high risk for other guys. I think you know fighting Judah at 140 is somewhat harder than the guy who got beat by Cotto and Clottey at 147. Those guys were too big, and they werent blow outs. Against smaller guys, he is more powerfu; at 140 p4p.

I haven't tried to infer anything with Tszyu. He smashed Judah years ago. If Hatton and Judah should fight, and there are not only signals, there are reasons, the only thing Tszyu has to do with them is that he was a common opponent.

So what, your saying Ricky Hatton should hang em up and Quit? Why, is he shot? Had enough concerned too high risk for low reward. He hasn't retired yet. Maybe he should retire before fighting a guy like Judah. Maybe the kind of money around isn't enough. Maybe he's better off fighting for a belt if he wants pride in choosin how he wants to retire. As Judah has a good chance of retiring him if he doesn't retire himself.

I bet the two names that come out of Judahs mouth after he gets through with Matthew Hatton at the post fight interview are Ricky Hatton and Manny Pacquiao $$ Whether Ricky Hatton is interested is another story. So what, he's just going to sit there and let his brother be beaten badly while Judah calls out his name post fight. Fine. You have a gang banging thug trying to boss you around. Maybe Rickys too smart to take the bait, but Judah sure wants him, and will likely have him if they get in the ring. If Ricky avoids him, he'll just say Ricky didn't want to fight me and will be down on all hands and knees trying to find another way to get paid again.

[Steelie]

Interesting thread.

Back in the day (and I'm talking pre Tszyu) Ricky freely admitted in interviews that he felt Zab was the toughest fight out there for him (and remember at the time the likes of Manny and PBF were plying thier trade south of 140)

For me, this potential match up isn't so much about what Zab would bring, more about what Ricky has left...and that's a tough one to call...

[TeamTszyu]

Hello,

I understand the blocking me from the site. It started to get abit out of
hand with the graphics. I feel debating the hows and whys of why you
think certain guys will win is ok. I didnt even bring up Kostya Tszyu in
the thread posted with my name addressing me from some annoyed members.

In a personal note, I dont mind Ricky Hatton. He's an entertaining
fighter. Maybe I will bother to send this message to the other forum
memebers in general.........as its not the only venue I have access to
the site in my country.

Anyway, short of sending the same message to the forum members, I respect the decision made by the adminstrators of the forum and the memebers that you've had enough of where the messages were headed.

Again, I dont mind Ricky Hatton, and when he got dropped against Pacquiao in round 1, I was around a table of Brits insisting he would recover and be able to go the distance. I did pick Pacquiao by decision, but thought, and think, Ricky at his best is pretty good.

P.S. I made the effort to appologise to you guys and take the fact I have been banned as the medicine I deserve. I went a touch out of my way to send you guys this message.

If I get away from the parochial stuff, I think Ricky Hatton is a Great pressure fighter. He beat an OK version of Tszyu, regardless of the othe countless theories I put forth. You guys have a good site, so I regret that it got abit out of hand. The use of those images was abit much, and I think some of the provocative ones should be taken down, as it just gave ammo to a gut in the blind frezy of the moment.

Anyway, this post is for you guys, and my appologise. I will not seek to keep going here under any recreated alias, or alternative Internet address. I just wanted to take the effort this onentime for you guys, and wish you well in the forum which is a good one. Maybe Ricky will have that last day in the sun before he's done. Most you guys are ok, some goaded me. Anyway, I appologise

To the administrator, I wont continue after this post as said in respect for this is your decision and it you guys forum and rules.

Regards KTTeam (I'll also drop this in the direct thread, and that will be all from me, as I wont be able to read your replies) Good luck, keep it going..

[LEGION]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls-ds1a4l5Q

[TeamTszyu]

Just having a quick look, to see the sentiment. As stated in the other post, I cant really post here, and have limited access via altenate means.

I will respect the adminstrators wishes. Just on the way out. Ricky can actually beat Judah if he gets past the initial onslaught and blunts that rght hook.

Anyway, from it jus got out of control abit. No, Judah Hatton are different entities, and IF they ever fought it has not that much significance to their common opponent.

Best of luck with it all, you have a good site.

Team Tszyu

[TeamTszyu]

As stated in the other thread addressed specifically to me, I was IP banned, and cant access this site now even to have some positive words. I am at a mall and thought I take the effort to appologise. I was doing some shopping and thought I'd just read the thread a last time on the way out of the mall.

Hatton is very popular on the Tszyu forum. Pacquiao has suddenly become the flavour over there. Thanks for the chance to say a more genuine passing word.

My real opinion on Ricky Hatton without the carried away fan persona. A great pressure fighter. He beat an OK version of Tszyu, and you take that every day.

Well, as for the Mr Judah comments, it is a tough fight stylistically. It can be done, blunting the right hook. Judah has an average straight right cross. It would honestly be a close fight given styles. Depends what Ricky shows up. If he's his old self, if he blunts the right hook, then the old Ricky would wear Judah down in the later rounds.

Styles make fights. Tszyu beating Judah doesnt mean anything in comparing the two fighters, different styles.

He's had an amazing career, both interms of achievements, and financially, few have done better. On the way out of the mall. All the best with it and thanks for some of the gestures. Hatton has been a FUN fighter to watch

Team Tszyu

[ono]

The point is, thats all well and good at 147, but at 140 he is a whole new fighter. Judah does fade late, but id have to say he has more boxing skill than Hatton, and the size to do better at 140, than against guys like Cotto and Clottey. He is better early Judah. How embarrassing would it be if he's beaten at 2am in England by Judah!!

OP is clearly haven't a hard time coming to terms with Hatton beating Kostya Tzsyu.