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    Default Why Naz retired

    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    Hamed was fun to watch in his day, but in a historical point of view, he's no bigger than Zab Judah, and that's gotta say something

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    Default Re: Why Naz retired

    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.
    Yeah, was just on the BBC bocxing forum, no idea quite what the guy was on. As far as I know from over the years, Naz simply lost interest.Maybe he knew he just got found out at the highest level, who really knows but him. I'm sure if he pushed at the time he could have had a rematch.

    Do you reckon that Hagler didn't want the rematch or did he really figure he wouldn't get it, again so many conflicting stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.
    Yeah, was just on the BBC bocxing forum, no idea quite what the guy was on. As far as I know from over the years, Naz simply lost interest.Maybe he knew he just got found out at the highest level, who really knows but him. I'm sure if he pushed at the time he could have had a rematch.

    Do you reckon that Hagler didn't want the rematch or did he really figure he wouldn't get it, again so many conflicting stories.
    The reality is Hagler probably would have got it, but he spent too much time after the fight bad-mouthing Leonard, implying he'd bribed the judges & so forth that it created a real sour point between them. The Four Kings book, written by a journalist most associated with Hagler, pretty much details all of this.

    They were basically primed for a rematch, but Leonard got pissed off with him & didn't want to give him the payday, whilst Hagler seemed to almost revel in the conspiracy theory of it. Personally, I thought Leonard just edged it, although could easily go the other way, but I never understand how it got labelled a 'robbery'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post

    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.
    Yeah, was just on the BBC bocxing forum, no idea quite what the guy was on. As far as I know from over the years, Naz simply lost interest.Maybe he knew he just got found out at the highest level, who really knows but him. I'm sure if he pushed at the time he could have had a rematch.

    Do you reckon that Hagler didn't want the rematch or did he really figure he wouldn't get it, again so many conflicting stories.
    The reality is Hagler probably would have got it, but he spent too much time after the fight bad-mouthing Leonard, implying he'd bribed the judges & so forth that it created a real sour point between them. The Four Kings book, written by a journalist most associated with Hagler, pretty much details all of this.

    They were basically primed for a rematch, but Leonard got pissed off with him & didn't want to give him the payday, whilst Hagler seemed to almost revel in the conspiracy theory of it. Personally, I thought Leonard just edged it, although could easily go the other way, but I never understand how it got labelled a 'robbery'.
    It wasn't a robbery but one of the judges scored it 118-110 for Leonard. Meaning that Leonard won 10/12 rounds on 1 score card. So of course with that kind of scoring from 1 of the judges it will be labeled a robbery from some fans. It was indeed a very close fight and could have went either way.

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    Default Re: Why Naz retired

    Hamed retired because he discovered he had a heart the size of a pea, and now a stomach the size of Butterbean's!
    He received a reality check from Barrera and knew he couldn't win a rematch and would never beat Morales either.
    His deflated ego couldn't handle the fact he just wasn't good enough!!
    He was entertaining and probably was a good boxer, but never an elite one.
    I have much more respect for fighters who comeback from defeat better than they were, than fighters like Hamed who just wimped out, took his bat and ball, went home and pondered what might have been!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.
    Yeah, was just on the BBC bocxing forum, no idea quite what the guy was on. As far as I know from over the years, Naz simply lost interest.Maybe he knew he just got found out at the highest level, who really knows but him. I'm sure if he pushed at the time he could have had a rematch.

    Do you reckon that Hagler didn't want the rematch or did he really figure he wouldn't get it, again so many conflicting stories.
    I don't really remember the details, so I'll go along with what Jaz said. One thing I do remember was Hagler in an interview sometime after the loss, being asked about a comeback. "My heart says yes, my head says no." I thought that was a pretty cool thing to say. I guess he listened to his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.
    Yeah, was just on the BBC bocxing forum, no idea quite what the guy was on. As far as I know from over the years, Naz simply lost interest.Maybe he knew he just got found out at the highest level, who really knows but him. I'm sure if he pushed at the time he could have had a rematch.

    Do you reckon that Hagler didn't want the rematch or did he really figure he wouldn't get it, again so many conflicting stories.



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    Naz said he left the sport to spend time with his kids and be a dad end of the day he walked away W36 L1 D0 31KO's won WBC,WBO,IBF titles beat the WBA champ also he was number 1 featherweight for 4 year or more he got down to P4P#5 he made 15 defences of his WBO in just under 5 year he beat some good fighters who were champions past champions or went on to become champions. Also he walked away with about £50m in the bank not many fighters can say or do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.

    OK all those guys were out of Naz's fighting weight class. He would have gotten cooked by all these guys. Whoever posted the original deal at whatever site is stoned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferTheGreat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.

    OK all those guys were out of Naz's fighting weight class. He would have gotten cooked by all these guys. Whoever posted the original deal at whatever site is stoned.
    The guy who wrote that is called spring and he is a WUM. The only topics he ever starts are about ducking Hamed because they are younger than some other fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferTheGreat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    I have no idea if Naz tried and failed to get a rematch. This was just a forum post from some guy?

    I always just figured that, like the guy in your av, he had a good run, lost to an ATG, and decided to get out while the getting was good.

    OK all those guys were out of Naz's fighting weight class. He would have gotten cooked by all these guys. Whoever posted the original deal at whatever site is stoned.
    Well, I think the point was that these guys were older and better than NAZ an still found challenges, so why couldn't NAZ?

    but yeah, aside from the wight issue which is not relevant here, the logic of the post is questionable. Every situation is different. And who knows where he got the "no more challenges" thing anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Had to share this, on the BBC website on the forum today this was posted.

    Funny as

    Prince Naseem Hamed had to retired cos there are no challenges for him cos Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36, are all ducking Prince Naseem Hamed just cos Prince Naseem Hamed is younger than Clinton Woods, 37, Shane Mosley, 37, Bernard Hopkins, 44, Vitali Klitschko, 38, Roy Jones Jr, 40, and Juan Manuel Marquez, 36.

    Now correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a rematch with a guy who handed your ass to you be a good reasong to go on.If he didn't weigh 300 kilos he could maybe come back, surely there's a challenge out there somewhere.
    Anyone who puts Clinton Woods in a comparative sentence with a selection of Hall of Famers, 4 of whom are certified ATGs, needs a slap.

    Naz got out when he felt he needed to, can't hold it against any fighter who feels to do that. We're not the ones getting punched.

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