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    Default What did you see different with Khan ?

    After watching the Salita fight , and listening to Ian Darke and Jim Watt banging on about how Khan is going to conquer America with this kind of performance , I have to say Khan did a good job , but i didn't see anything i didn't already know about Khan.
    He has fantastic speed , good power , and improved defence under Freddie Roach , but he fought a guy with a weak chin , he didn't take any punches , so question marks still remain about Khan's chin.
    I want to see Khan in a hard fight , so we can truly judge him on his improvements , he did everything asked of him on Saturday night , but I'm not so convinced he can become an elite fighter.
    This is not a dig at Khan , I'm just interested in your views guys.
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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    I think there are always going to be questions about Khan's chin until he proves that he is able to take punches from even moderately-heavy punchers. However, he has shown significant grown since joining Roach's stable and as long as his defense continues to improve he'll be able to mask his suspect punch-resistance.

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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    His jab is no longer just a range finder, it's actually a weapon.

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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    He just looks more assured to me, and maybe a little less vulnerable. He seems more disciplined and looks like he's beginning to understand how to execute a gameplan. I'm sure there is plenty of stuff but the fight on Saturday didn't allow him to showcase anything other than speed and power.
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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    He just looks more assured to me, and maybe a little less vulnerable. He seems more disciplined and looks like he's beginning to understand how to execute a gameplan. I'm sure there is plenty of stuff but the fight on Saturday didn't allow him to showcase anything other than speed and power.
    I agree, definately more assured. Of course it was over so quickly can't tell for sure, the first 1-2 did the job then went for the finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    He just looks more assured to me, and maybe a little less vulnerable. He seems more disciplined and looks like he's beginning to understand how to execute a gameplan. I'm sure there is plenty of stuff but the fight on Saturday didn't allow him to showcase anything other than speed and power.
    I agree, definately more assured. Of course it was over so quickly can't tell for sure, the first 1-2 did the job then went for the finish.
    I agree with you two.

    His chin will always be a big worry but I think he's got to the stage where only world-class fighters will exploit it.

    Before Barrera he looked as though any half-decent fighter would catch him. Definitely improved. He doesn't look so beatable.
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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    You cant see any improvement in this fight as his opponent was a bum.

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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    His jab is no longer just a range finder, it's actually a weapon.
    That's what Roach said when khan sparred with Pac.

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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    How the hell can anyone tell what improvements they've seen, when he hasn't even been in with an elite fighter who's tested him ? i haven't seen any real improvements except his defense is better.

    But then again he did get clocked quite a few times vs Andriy Kotelnik late on, and if he would of been puncher then who knows ?

    Amir Khan has always had the talent i don't see any real difference there, except he isn't as wild and his defense is better which is good.

    But i think its way too early to say anything, until he fights someone who tests him. Its easy to look improved against a one eyed undersized MAB, crap Otis Fagan, mediocre Andriy Kotelnik, weak chinned Dmitriy Salita.

    We will see his dramatic improvements if there is any, against the fighters i've mentioned in the other topics.

    But if there is anyone to improve Amir Khan, then its Freddie Roach. Look at Manny Pacquiao he used to be a one dimensional fighter.

    Now he has a right hand, much improved boxing skills. Much better use of using angles, and he can box more smartly if he chooses, aswell as much better counter punching.
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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    How the hell can anyone tell what improvements they've seen, when he hasn't even been in with an elite fighter who's tested him ? i haven't seen any real improvements except his defense is better.

    But then again he did get clocked quite a few times vs Andriy Kotelnik late on, and if he would of been puncher then who knows ?

    Amir Khan has always had the talent i don't see any real difference there, except he isn't as wild and his defense is better which is good.

    But i think its way too early to say anything, until he fights someone who tests him. Its easy to look improved against a one eyed undersized MAB, crap Otis Fagan, mediocre Andriy Kotelnik, weak chinned Dmitriy Salita.

    We will see his dramatic improvements if there is any, against the fighters i've mentioned in the other topics.

    But if there is anyone to improve Amir Khan, then its Freddie Roach. Look at Manny Pacquiao he used to be a one dimensional fighter.

    Now he has a right hand, much improved boxing skills. Much better use of using angles, and he can box more smartly if he chooses, aswell as much better counter punching.
    Thing is, I had to listen to Ian Darke telling me how good Gavin Rees' chin (on prizefight)is yet weak punching Kotelnik had him on queer street. Don't forget Khan moved up to 140 so although Kotelnik might not be a big puncher at 140, he's accurate and powerful enough to hurt someone who's used to facing under-sized 135lbers. Khan's chin looked ok. Maybe he has a bit of Cotto syndrome. Maybe 135 was a struggle....considering he was down to 1% bodyfat
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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    His jab is no longer just a range finder, it's actually a weapon.
    Yes that is a good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    His jab is no longer just a range finder, it's actually a weapon.
    Yes that is a good point.
    It counts for so much too, everything as in 'everything' can stem from a good jab. Recon you'd need one just to keep Manny off you sparring.
    This kid could go far now if they pick their marks well and time it all for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    After watching the Salita fight , and listening to Ian Darke and Jim Watt banging on about how Khan is going to conquer America with this kind of performance , I have to say Khan did a good job , but i didn't see anything i didn't already know about Khan.
    He has fantastic speed , good power , and improved defence under Freddie Roach , but he fought a guy with a weak chin , he didn't take any punches , so question marks still remain about Khan's chin.
    I want to see Khan in a hard fight , so we can truly judge him on his improvements , he did everything asked of him on Saturday night , but I'm not so convinced he can become an elite fighter.
    This is not a dig at Khan , I'm just interested in your views guys.
    Discuss.
    Better combines, tighter defense and lighter on feet. Let's not jump in the world's conquest wagon but he did a very good improvement, the fact to spare with Manny the kingpin Pacquiao can only help him to get better as he will have to react against the best and he's just a young kid still.
    All in all, I think he can be a force to reckon with, he has that potential, let's see now how it goes and it is way too soon to jump to the conclusion he,ll be the next big thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    After watching the Salita fight , and listening to Ian Darke and Jim Watt banging on about how Khan is going to conquer America with this kind of performance , I have to say Khan did a good job , but i didn't see anything i didn't already know about Khan.
    He has fantastic speed , good power , and improved defence under Freddie Roach , but he fought a guy with a weak chin , he didn't take any punches , so question marks still remain about Khan's chin.
    I want to see Khan in a hard fight , so we can truly judge him on his improvements , he did everything asked of him on Saturday night , but I'm not so convinced he can become an elite fighter.
    This is not a dig at Khan , I'm just interested in your views guys.
    Discuss.
    Better combines, tighter defense and lighter on feet. Let's not jump in the world's conquest wagon but he did a very good improvement, the fact to spare with Manny the kingpin Pacquiao can only help him to get better as he will have to react against the best and he's just a young kid still.
    All in all, I think he can be a force to reckon with, he has that potential, let's see now how it goes and it is way too soon to jump to the conclusion he,ll be the next big thing.

    True; but with these guys behind him, he will have only himself to blame if it goes c up.
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    Default Re: What did you see different with Khan ?

    Anyone who for a second thinks that Khan hasn't improved since his arrival to the Wild Card Gym must be blind or has not seen it.

    I've seen Amir at the Wild Card Gym sparring. Since his arrival here the kids def. picked up a lot of pointers and has def. improved 1 thing is certain he's a great listener and I believe this has to do with him having Freddie in his corner.

    I bet not many if at all realized this but Freddie whispered into Amirs ear twice before the fight began vs. Salita.

    Once while Freddies back was to the camera, the 2nd as Amir prayed.

    Freddie tells Amir "Go get' em"... what happened next?

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