Saddo's Pound For Pound Voting (Summer 2010) voting open till May 31st

[iwng100]

1. Manny Pacquaio
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Chad Dawson
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Paul Williams
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Timothy Bradley
8. Rafael Marquez
9. Lucian Bute
10. Celestino Caballero

[Mo Frazier]

My problem with current p4p lists is the inclusion of Bernard Hopkins. Bernard, at this point, better than Sergio Martinez and Chad Dawson p4p? That's a travesty and the reason the p4p lists have no credibility to me anymore.

[Kev]

My problem with current p4p lists is the inclusion of Bernard Hopkins. Bernard, at this point, better than Sergio Martinez and Chad Dawson p4p? That's a travesty and the reason the p4p lists have no credibility to me anymore.

I think B Hop deserves to be above them both for now. He has won his last three fights including taking Kelly Pavlik's undefeated record.

I don't see how a fighter can be dropped whilst he's still winning. Martinez is 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights, regardless of you being able to make a case for him winning all three.

Dawson is doing well but has yet to face a real defining opponent. Both absolutely deserve to be on the p4p rankings but you can't knock B Hop down just because you 'think' the other guys are better.

P4P rankings are subjective, but only in accordance with strict criteria. B Hop's resume speaks for itself.

[amat]

P4P rankings are subjective, but only in accordance with strict criteria. B Hop's resume speaks for itself.

What criteria? Like I said, I believe p4p to be the best fighters in the world regardless of what they've done in the ring. It's more of a judge on talent then actual accomplishments, I leave that to 'greatest' lists. Martinez is 1-1-1 and could very wello be 3-0, the fact that he has the draw is a TRAVESTY. If you look at B Hop in the ring and then Martinez in the ring, who is the better more talented fighter? It's not even close it's Martinez.

If you limit that criteria to 'has won a title' like I did, then you get a more fair criteria and you judge actual p4p talent rather then stacking accomplishments against each other.

[Kev]

P4P rankings are subjective, but only in accordance with strict criteria. B Hop's resume speaks for itself.

What criteria? Like I said, I believe p4p to be the best fighters in the world regardless of what they've done in the ring. It's more of a judge on talent then actual accomplishments, I leave that to 'greatest' lists. Martinez is 1-1-1 and could very wello be 3-0, the fact that he has the draw is a TRAVESTY. If you look at B Hop in the ring and then Martinez in the ring, who is the better more talented fighter? It's not even close it's Martinez.

If you limit that criteria to 'has won a title' like I did, then you get a more fair criteria and you judge actual p4p talent rather then stacking accomplishments against each other.

I think that's a ridiculous way to judge the rankings. It's no longer a rankings list but a predictions list.

Why not have Gamboa, Kell Brook, Devon Alexander all in the top 10? Hell I reckon that cashflow is going to be special in another 15 years or so....

Of course you have to take into account acomplishments, otherwise what is the point of acomplishments?

[Galaxy]

01 Mayweather
02 Pacquiao
03 Dawson
04 S. Martinez
05 Hopkins
06 JMM
07 Williams
08 Calderon
09 F. Montiel
10 Donaire
11 Bradley
12 Caballero
13 R. Marquez
14 Juan Manuel Lopez
15 John
16 Moreno
17 W. Klitschko
18 Mares
19 Y. Perez
20 V. Klitschko

[Mar]

I really wouldn't argue with most opinions when coming to the rankings. Like everyone i'd have floyd and pac at the top in either order. Easy to only remember the last fight we see but you can't really go wrong either way without either of them loosing or fighting each other.

[Beanflicker]

No big quarrells with the list, but like most I don't think haye belongs anywhere near top 10. The fact that he is ranked above a guy like Chris John is mind boggling to me.

[HattonTheHammer]

1-Manny Pacquiao (to be the man youve got to beat the man, floyd hasnt beaten THE MAN yet)
2-Floyd Mayweather
3-Juan Manuel Marquez
4-Bernard Hopkins
5-Nonito Donaire
6-Shane Mosley
7-Paul Williams
8-Chad Dawson
9-Wlad Klitschko
10-Juanma Lopez

[BIG H]

Pac hasn't 'Beat the man' yet eiether, coz he aint beaten PBF. I think they should share number 1 spot

Hopkins at 4

[HattonTheHammer]

Pac hasn't 'Beat the man' yet eiether, coz he aint beaten PBF. I think they should share number 1 spot

Hopkins at 4

Bhop is untested at 175pounds. His last 2outings have been complete dud fights but i still think on his day he has that world class ability that makes him such a special fighter

[skel1983]

Pac hasn't 'Beat the man' yet eiether, coz he aint beaten PBF. I think they should share number 1 spot

Hopkins at 4

Bhop is untested at 175pounds. His last 2outings have been complete dud fights but i still think on his day he has that world class ability that makes him such a special fighter

Hopkins is untested at 175?? He fought possibly his best fight of his career against the number one in Antonio Tarver and was a big underdog.

[DatsiK]

1. Mayweather
2. Pacman
3. JMM
4. Hopkins
5. Williams
6. Martinez
7. Ward
8. Mosley
9. Bradley
10. Dawson

[shza]

Pac hasn't 'Beat the man' yet eiether, coz he aint beaten PBF. I think they should share number 1 spot

Hopkins at 4

Bhop is untested at 175pounds. His last 2outings have been complete dud fights but i still think on his day he has that world class ability that makes him such a special fighter

Hopkins is untested at 175?? He fought possibly his best fight of his career against the number one in Antonio Tarver and was a big underdog.

Fine, but would you actually pick Hopkins over Dawson at 175 at this stage? No way I would.

[:::PSL:::]

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather (he must beat Pac or PWill to be #1... period!)
3. Williams
4. Donaire
5. Juanma Lopez
6. Martinez
7. Mosley
8. JMM
9. Caballero
10. Hasegawa