B. Hopkins: When will Pacquiao fight a Black fighter?

[Dizaster]

Like the homie O said,

Pac got no problem fighting Africans . He gave Dominicans a try. But he got his ass whooped and almost started to cry. So he never went back. Thus the ducking of Joan Guzman.

He hasn't attempted Cubans or African Americans at all, at least not anyone we know. Picking David Diaz over Joel Casamayor and Nate Campbell (the real Champions) was just shameful. His fanbase excuse doesn't even work there. Both clearly trump David fukkin Diaz.

I'll give credit to that one... Pac v Casamayor should have come way before Diaz..

[Beanflicker]

If only Bernard was as interesting inside the ring as he is outside the ring.

[Ironfriend]

Bernard Hopkins is certainly as controversial as he is outspoken. His observation about Manny, however controversial, states a fact: Manny has never fought a top African American fighter. The statement infers that Manny would have trouble with the style of Black fighters and has therefore avoids them. I don't think Bernard meant anything more sinister than that. If Manny's choice of Shane Mosley as his next fight was an attempt to address Bernard's contention I think it fails to meet the challenge. Mosley, once a great fighter, can no longer rise to the level of even being competitive with Manny IMO. Pacquiao's decision to take on the aged strapless Mosley who is comming off two poor performances instead of the young champion Berto who is comming off two impressive kayos has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with minimizing risk. Arum’s ‘explanations’ notwithstanding, the Pac camp clearly recognize that risk is multi-racial, defeat does not discriminate.

[luvfightgame]

B-Hop is crazy and shouldn't have brought race into the ring. But what people don't realize, B-Hop is a business man. Although Shane is not under the GBP tent, B-Hop might still be invested. And I believe B-Hop gets a check if Manny fights Floyd just because Floyd will be co-promoter by GBP.
Also, don't think that it isn't beyond Floyd to make a phone call to B-Hop to help get under Pacman's skin and to sell even more tickets.

Bhop is lobbying to get Shane this fight. He could care less about Mayweather.
Shane is his friend, business partner, training partner, shares trainer, and Shane WANTS the fight with Pac or anybody top notch, he won't turn down a fight.

Shane is my favorite fighter, and I like Pac, so I really don't want to see that one. Shane gets hit too much, and has no quit.

[generalbulldog]

B-Hop is crazy and shouldn't have brought race into the ring. But what people don't realize, B-Hop is a business man. Although Shane is not under the GBP tent, B-Hop might still be invested. And I believe B-Hop gets a check if Manny fights Floyd just because Floyd will be co-promoter by GBP.
Also, don't think that it isn't beyond Floyd to make a phone call to B-Hop to help get under Pacman's skin and to sell even more tickets.

Bhop is lobbying to get Shane this fight. He could care less about Mayweather.
Shane is his friend, business partner, training partner, shares trainer, and Shane WANTS the fight with Pac or anybody top notch, he won't turn down a fight.

Shane is my favorite fighter, and I like Pac, so I really don't want to see that one. Shane gets hit too much, and has no quit.

I agree, SHane even in his prime was no slick boxer. He still got tagged quite a bit. When I'm thinking slick, it's Sweetpea and Mayweather that comes to mind, the defensive fighters that are hard as hell to hit.

Berto ain't slick, and neither are Bradley and Alexander, especially Alexander. Hell a lot of people thought he lost against slow as hell Kotelnik, Alexander was getting tagged every round by a freaking jab!

As people have said, I think he's trying to get a fight for Shane. But Shane at this point is pretty much washed up.

[JazMerkin]

Hopkins: "When Will Pacquiao Face a Top Black Fighter?" - Boxing News

The article is about how Hopkins says that Pac don't fight top black fighters, as in African Americans with that slick style. You know like the Ray Leonard style that B-Hop was talking about.

BTW, just in case someone brings up Lebwaba and Clottey, they aren't african americans. And I think when B-Hop is talking about a top black fighter, he means black american.

I think the word "top" excludes Clottey even if he is as black as they come. He's Ghanaian btw for the person who said he was Nigerian.

Cotto destroyed Chop Corley, Judah and beat Mosely(Inner City Blacks).
Cotto losed to Pac, can that be counted?

Wtf is an Inner City Black, you know where Shane Mosley is from? I'll give you a hint, it ain't the ghetto. Retard

This was racist

Considering that you get so worked up about people throwing ideas of racism about on other threads Miles, it's quite interesting that you think this is racist. It's stupid & shows Hopkins up for the knob he is, but there's nothing racist about it. I think Memphis' post pretty much sums it up. Unless Hopkins is angling for a fight with Pac at a catchweight. Which I wouldn't put past him

[Fenster]

Anyone following Hopkins over the years would already realise he's an ignorant, paranoid funker.

He has said similar things about superior "black" (meaning slick) fighters before. He seems to think black American's have a built-in style which is clearly not the case.

He once said Lou DiBella was racist for reffering to Jermain Taylor as a "stallion" and a "kid" ... you have to laugh

[El Kabong]

Didn't Bernard Hopkins avoid fighting Chad Dawson recently?

[Memphis]

Wrong kind of Black for Bernards liking

[ono]

Didn't Bernard Hopkins avoid fighting Chad Dawson recently?

Yeah but if anything Chad Dawson is too black for Bernard. Bernard wants to be the real black guy in the fight. Chad Dawson is Eddie Murphy black. Hopkins wants Nelson Mandela black.

[El Kabong]

Didn't Bernard Hopkins avoid fighting Chad Dawson recently?

Yeah but if anything Chad Dawson is too black for Bernard. Bernard wants to be the real black guy in the fight. Chad Dawson is Eddie Murphy black. Hopkins wants Nelson Mandela black.

I guess...but Jean Pascal, that sounds a little French. When is Bernard going to fight an Eskimo?

[Memphis]

PAC didnt fight Malignaggi at 140 either so he clearly wants no part of orange people either.

[Gandalf]

Hopkins: "When Will Pacquiao Face a Top Black Fighter?" - Boxing News

The article is about how Hopkins says that Pac don't fight top black fighters, as in African Americans with that slick style. You know like the Ray Leonard style that B-Hop was talking about.

BTW, just in case someone brings up Lebwaba and Clottey, they aren't african americans. And I think when B-Hop is talking about a top black fighter, he means black american.

I think the word "top" excludes Clottey even if he is as black as they come. He's Ghanaian btw for the person who said he was Nigerian.

Cotto destroyed Chop Corley, Judah and beat Mosely(Inner City Blacks).
Cotto losed to Pac, can that be counted?

Wtf is an Inner City Black, you know where Shane Mosley is from? I'll give you a hint, it ain't the ghetto. Retard

This was racist

Considering that you get so worked up about people throwing ideas of racism about on other threads Miles, it's quite interesting that you think this is racist. It's stupid & shows Hopkins up for the knob he is, but there's nothing racist about it. I think Memphis' post pretty much sums it up. Unless Hopkins is angling for a fight with Pac at a catchweight. Which I wouldn't put past him

Yes, the Calzaghe comment was quite racist, this one was more ignorance and stupidity. That's right. Hopkins/Pac at a catchweight. Haha, what a freak show!

[Waleed]

Hopkins: "When Will Pacquiao Face a Top Black Fighter?" - Boxing News

The article is about how Hopkins says that Pac don't fight top black fighters, as in African Americans with that slick style. You know like the Ray Leonard style that B-Hop was talking about.

BTW, just in case someone brings up Lebwaba and Clottey, they aren't african americans. And I think when B-Hop is talking about a top black fighter, he means black american.

I think you can trace it on Pacquiao's previous fights. In 1998 Pacquiao was not that significant that he was not given a shot at Mark Johnson that he fought Sasakul instead.
The only African American that Pacquiao should have fought was Nate Campbell instead of David Diaz at lightweight. The rest self explanatory.

1998 Flyweight
- VS Sasakul (WBC)
1: Mark Johnson (USA), 36-1, IBF champ
2: Mauricio Pastrana (Colombia), 20-0
3: Chatchai Sasakul (Thailand), 33-1, WBC champ
4: Hugo Soto (Argentina), 50-5-2, WBA champ
5: Melchjor Cob Castro (Mexico), 52-6-4
6: Jose Bonilla (Venezuela), 24-5
7: Ruben Sanchez-Leon (Mexico), 22-7-1, WBO champ
8: Eric Morel (Puerto Rico), 18-0
9: Carlos Salazar (Argentina), 47-8-3
10: Alejandro Montiel (Mexico), 38-3

1999 Flyweight
- VS Gabriel Mira (WBC defense)
1: Manny Pacquiao (Phillipines), 26-1, WBC champ
2: C. Dutchboy Gym (Thailand), 34-2
3: Leo Gamez (Venezuela), 32-6-1,WBA champ
4: Irene Pacheco (Venezuela), 24-0, IBF champ
5: Hugo Soto (Argentina), 51-6-2
6: Jose Bonilla (Venezuela), 25-5
7: Jose Lopez Bueno (Spain), 13-3-2, WBO champ
8: Chatchai Chokwiwat (Thailand), 39-5
9: Alejandro Montiel (Mexico), 40-3
10:Peter Culshaw (Britain), 16-1-1, WBU champ

1999 Super Bantamweight/Junior Featherweight

1: Erik Morales (Mexico), 34-0,WBC champ
2: Marco Antonio Barrera (Mexico), 49-2, WBO champ
3: Nestor Garza (Mexico), 36-1, WBA champ
4: Carlos Navarro (USA), 19-0
5: Willie Jorrin (USA), 25-0
6: Wayne McCullough (Britain), 23-2
7: Enrique Sanchez (Mexico), 24-1-1
8: Lehlohonolo Ledwaba (S. Africa), 29-1-1, IBF champ
9: Michael Brodie (Britain), 27-0
10: Nana Yaw Konadu (Ghana), 40-4-1

2000 Super Bantamweight/Junior Featherweight

1: Marco Antonio Barrera (Mexico), 51-3, WBO
2: Bones Adams (USA), 40-3-3, WBA
3: Willie Jorrin (USA), 27-0, WBC
4: Michael Brodie (Britain), 29-1
5: Danny Romero (USA), 40-3-1
6: Oscar Larios (Mexico), 38-2-1
7: Wayne McCullough (Britain), 23-3
8: Lehlohonolo Ledwaba (S. Africa), 31-1-1, IBF
9: Manny Pacquiao (Philippines), 30-2
10: Carlos Contreras (Mexico), 16-4-1, WBU

2001 Super Bantamweight/Junior Featherweight
- VS Ledwaba (IBF)
1: Bones Adams, 41-3-3, WBA
2: Willie Jorrin, 28-0, WBC
3: Michael Brodie (Britain), 30-1
4: Lehlohonolo Ledwaba (S. Africa), 32-1-1, IBF
5: Oscar Larios (Mexico), 40-3-1
6: Danny Romero (USA), 41-3-1
7: Manny Pacquiao (Philippines), 31-2
8: Carlos Contreras (Mexico), 17-4-2, WBU
9: Israel Vazquez (Mexico), 29-2
10: Enrique Sanchez (Mexico), 28-1-2

2002 Super Bantamweight/Junior Featherweight

1: Paulie Ayala (USA), 34-1
2: Manny Pacquiao (Philippines), 34-2-1, IBF
3: Oscar Larios (Mexico), 45-3-1
4: Willie Jorrin (USA), 28-0-1, WBC
5: Bones Adams (USA), 41-5-3
6: Salim Medjkoune (France), 40-3-1, WBA
7: Joan Guzman (Dom. Rep.), 18-0, WBO
8: Bobby Velardez (USA), 23-4-1
9: Israel Vazquez (Mexico), 33-3
10: Osamu Sato (Japan), 26-2-2

2003 Super Bantamweight/Junior Featherweight

1: Paulie Ayala (USA), 34-2
2: Manny Pacquiao* (Philippines), 36-2-2, IBF
3: Oscar Larios (Mexico), 48-3-1, WBC
4: Salim Medjkoune* (France), 41-3-1, WBA
5: Joan Guzman (Dom. Rep.), 18-0, WBO
6: Wayne McCullough (GB), 26-4
7: Willie Jorrin, 28-1-1
8: Israel Vazquez (Mexico), 33-3
9: Osamu Sato (Japan), 26-2-2
10: Kozo Ishii (Japan), 30-3

2003 Featherweight
-VS Marco Antonio Barrera (The Ring)
1: Marco Antonio Barrera (Mexico), 57-3-0-1
2: Erik Morales (Mexico), 44-1, WBC
3: Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico), 40-2, IBF
4: Derrick Gainer (USA), 39-5-1, WBA
5: Scott Harrison (GB), 19-1-1, WBO
6: Naseem Hamed (GB), 36-1, IBO
7: Juan Pablo Chacon (Argentina), 46-3
8: Zahir Raheem (USA), 22-0
9: Manuel Medina (Mexico), 61-13
10: Michael Brodie (GB), 34-1

2004 Featherweight
- VS Juan Manuel Marquez (IBF,WBA)
1: Manny Pacquiao (Philippines), 38-2-1
2: Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico), 42-2, IBF/WBA
3: Marco Antonio Barrera (Mexico), 57-4-0-1
4: Scott Harrison (GB), 21-2-1, WBO
5: Manuel Medina (Mexico), 62-14
6: Rocky Juarez (USA), 19-0
7: Derrick Gainer (USA), 39-6-1
8: Injin Chi (Korea), 28-2-1, WBC
9: William Abelyan (Armenia), 23-4-1
10: Juan Carlos Ramirez (Mexico), 33-5

2005 Super Featherweight
- VS Erik Morales (IBA, WBC)
1: Marco Antonio Barrera (Mexico), 59-4-0-1, WBC
2: Erik Morales (Mexico), 47-2
3: Jesus Chavez (Mexico), 40-3
4: Carlos Hernandez (USA), 41-4-1
5: Yodsanan Nanthachai (Thailand), 43-2-1, WBA
6: Robbie Peden (Australia), 24-2
7: Jorge Barrios (Argentina), 42-2-1-1
8: Mike Anchondo (USA), 25-0, WBO
9: Daniel Seda (Puerto Rico), 20-1-1
10: Mzonke Fana (S. Africa), 22-2-1

2006 Super Featherweight
- VS Erik Morales (WBC)
1: M. Antonio Barrera (Mexico), 61-4-0-1, WBC/IBF
2: Erik Morales (Mexico), 48-3
3: Jorge Barrios (Argentina), 44-2-1-1, WBO
4: Zahir Raheem, 27-1
5: Vicente Mosquera (Panama), 21-1-1, WBA
6: Robbie Peden (Australia), 25-3
7: Yodsanan Nanthachai (Thailand), 44-3-1
8: Carlos Hernandez (USA), 41-6-1
9: Janos Nagy (Hungary), 23-0
10: Manuel Medina (Mexico), 65-14

2007 Super Featherweight
- VS Marco Antonio Barrera (WBC)
1: Manny Pacquiao (Philippines), 43-1-2
2: Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico), 47-3-1, WBC
3: Marco Antonio Barrera (Mexico), 63-5-0-1, WBC
4: Joan Guzman (Dom. Rep.), 27-0, WBO
5: Jorge Barrios (Argentina), 46-3-1-1
6: Rocky Juarez (USA), 26-3
7: Humberto Soto (Mexico), 40-5-2
8: Edwin Valero (Venezuela), 21-0, WBA
9: Erik Morales (Mexico), 48-5
10: Yodsanan Nanthachai (Thailand), 50-3-1

2008 Super Featherweight
- VS Juan Manuel Marquez (WBC, The Ring)
1: Manny Pacquiao (Philippines), 45-3-2
2: Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico), 48-3-1, WBC
3: Joan Guzman (Dom. Rep.), 28-0, WBO
4: Humberto Soto (Mexico), 43-6-2
5: Jorge Barrios, Argentina, 47-3-1-1
6: Edwin Valero* (Venezuela), 23-0, WBA
7: Alex Arthur (GB), 26-1
8: Mzonke Fana (South Africa), 27-3, IBF
9: Yodsanan Nanthachai (Thailand), 51-3-1
10: Cassius Baloyi (South Africa), 34-3-1

2008 Lightweight
- VS David Diaz (WBC)
1: Nate Campbell (USA), 32-5-1, WBA/WBO/IBF
2: Juan Diaz (USA), 33-1
3: Joel Casamayor (Cuba), 36-3-1
4: David Diaz (USA), 34-1-1, WBC
5: Julio Diaz (Mexico), 34-4
6: Zahir Raheem (USA), 29-2-0-2
7: Almazbek Raiymkulov (Krgyz.), 25-1-1
8: Jose Armando Santa Cruz (Mexico), 25-3
9: Michael Katsidis (Australia), 23-1
10: Yuri Romanov (Ukraine), 21-2

2008 Welterweight
- VS Oscar dela Hoya (before handwrap controversy)
1: Antonio Margarito (Mexico), 37-5-0-1, WBA
2: Miguel Cotto (Puerto Rico), 32-1
3: Shane Mosley (USA), 44-5-0-1
4: Paul Williams (USA), 34-1, WBO
5: Joshua Clottey (Ghana), 35-2-0-1, IBF
6: Andre Berto (USA), 22-0, WBC
7: Luis Collazo (USA), 28-3
8: Carlos Quintana (Puerto Rico), 25-2
9: Zab Judah (USA), 36-6-0-2
10: Rafal Jackiewicz (Poland), 32-8-1

2008 Light Welterweight
- VS Ricky Hatton (IBO, The Ring)
1: Ricky Hatton (GB), 45-1
2: Manny Pacquiao (Philippines), 48-3-2
3: Timothy Bradley, 23-0, WBC
4: Nate Campbell (USA), 33-5-1
5: Kendall Holt (USA), 25-2, WBO
6: Junior Witter (GB), 37-2-2
7: Andreas Kotelnik (Ukraine), 31-2-1, WBA
8: Marcos Maidana (Argentina), 25-1
9: Juan Urango (Colombia), 21-1-1, IBF
10: Paulie Malignaggi (USA), 25-2

2009 Welterweight
- VS Miguel Cotto (WBC, WBO)
1: Floyd Mayweather Jr (USA), 40-0
2: Miguel Cotto (Puerto Rico), 34-1, WBO
3: Shane Mosley (USA), 46-5-0-1, WBA
4: JoshuaClottey (Ghana), 35-3-0-1
5: Andre Berto (USA), 25-0, WBC
6: Luis Collazo (USA), 30-4
7: Carlos Quintana (Puerto Rico), 26-2
8: Zab Judah (USA), 37-6-0-2
9: Isaac Hlatshwayo (South Africa), 29-1-1, IBF
10: Selcuk Aydin (Turkey), 19-0

2010 Welterweight
- VS Joshua Clottey
1: Floyd Mayweather Jr (USA), 40-0
2: Manny Pacquiao (Philippines), 50-3-2, WBO
3: Shane Mosley, 46-5-0-1, WBA
4: Miguel Cotto (Puerto Rico), 34-2
5: Joshua Clottey (Ghana), 35-3-0-1
6: Andre Berto, 25-0, WBC
7: Luis Collazo , 30-4
8: Zab Judah , 38-6-0-2
9: Selcuk Aydin (Turkey), 19-0
10: Dejan Zavec (Slovenia), 28-1, IBF

2010 Light Middleweight/Super Welterweight
VS - Margarito
1: Sergio Martinez (Argentina), 44-2-2, WBC
2: Kermit Cintron (Puerto Rico), 32-2-0
3: Alfredo Angulo (Mexico), 19-1-0
4: Miguel Cotto (Puerto Rico), 35-2, WBA
5: Ryan Rhodes (GB), 43-4-0
6: Sechew Powell (USA), 26-2-0
7: Yuri Foreman (USA), 28-1-0
8: Vanes Martirosyan (USA), 28-0-0
9: Sergei Dzinziruk (Ukraine), 37-0-0, WBO
10: Cornelius Bundrage (USA), 30-4-0, IBF

[No Contest]

Hopkins: "When Will Pacquiao Face a Top Black Fighter?" - Boxing News

The article is about how Hopkins says that Pac don't fight top black fighters, as in African Americans with that slick style. You know like the Ray Leonard style that B-Hop was talking about.

BTW, just in case someone brings up Lebwaba and Clottey, they aren't african americans. And I think when B-Hop is talking about a top black fighter, he means black american.

hahaha ......ahhh the real question is why hasnt B-Hop fought any Filipinos? Oh yeah....is there a Filipino lt Heavy out there? welp...I checked boxrec, no Filipino lt heavy, you got lucky this time B-Hop!