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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Really good matchup for Cotto...
    The Yuri fight was just weird.

    Cotto wins via TKO.
    Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.

    Again I think this is a good fight for him.
    Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
    But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
    Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.

    I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
    I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
    I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.


    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
    Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
    No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.

    However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
    He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.

    I have absolutely zero doubts that Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
    Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
    For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
    To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
    I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
    I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.

    I'm a big fan of both Cotto and Mayorga. More so of Mayorga though.

    And he most DEFINATELY stands a chance against Cotto. We all know Cotto has always been a cut below Oscar and Tito.

    And Cotto ain't what he used to be.

    Mayorga throws a good jab, good uppercuts, as well as his OVERHAND right.

    Its easy and popular amongst some boxing schnobs to condescend and dismiss Mayorga, but the reality of this fight is that Mayorga has a very good shot of pressuring Cotto, and getting to him.

    Mayorga just KO'd a middleweight.

    I expect a very good fight that could go either way.

    I'm happy for Mayorga !
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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Really good matchup for Cotto...
    The Yuri fight was just weird.

    Cotto wins via TKO.
    Cotto needs to box early make Mayorga come to him then in the mid rounds just bring it and get the TKO.

    Again I think this is a good fight for him.
    Some of you guys know how huge of Cotto fan I am.
    But I think Sergio flat out beats him and outboxes him with possibly a late TKO.
    Sergios style is just all wrong for Cotto.

    I think Vanes starts off well but he's just not seasoned enough.
    I've seen Vanes fight and train and to be quite honest he doesn't impress me.
    I mean the kids got good speed and def. knows how to box BUT it takes a lot more then that to beat Cotto. I think Vanes should face someone like Bundrage or Powell.


    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I don't think Cotto is the same fighter anymore.
    Miles not being a wanka or anything but it doesnt take a genius to figure that out.
    No fighter is ever the same after they've been in the kind of fights Cottos been in.

    However Cotto still shows that when he decides to box he can.
    He just has that live by the gun die by the gun style which made him more popular when he was coming up. I think that style get's the best of him and he just goes for it.

    I have absolutely zero doubts that Cotto can beat Vanes, Kermit, Angulo and Alvarez.

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Mayorga would have a fair shot at taking Cotto out IMO.
    Mayorgas chances are as good as you throwing a haymaker...
    For anyone to think Mayorgas got a good chance. Is really stretching out this whole "Cottos done" or "Cottos on the decline" thing a bit too far.
    To think that Mayorga stands a chance is just nonsense.
    I'm not talking about a hayemaker shot.
    I'm talking about some actually thinking Mayorga will win with a plan of boxing and getting either a decision or a TKO.

    I'm a big fan of both Cotto and Mayorga. More so of Mayorga though.

    And he most DEFINATELY stands a chance against Cotto. We all know Cotto has always been a cut below Oscar and Tito.

    And Cotto ain't what he used to be.

    Mayorga throws a good jab, good uppercuts, as well as his OVERHAND right.

    Its easy and popular amongst some boxing schnobs to condescend and dismiss Mayorga, but the reality of this fight is that Mayorga has a very good shot of pressuring Cotto, and getting to him.

    Mayorga just KO'd a middleweight.

    I expect a very good fight that could go either way.

    I'm happy for Mayorga !
    Did you just invent a new word? I like it! Schnobs, a Saddo poster who hates and is a bit of a knob, a schnob. Good work Hulk
    haha

    Well my dear hobbit, a schnob is just someone who is condescending, snooty, or perceives themselves as smarter/better than everyone else.

    A Mr. Burns type from The Simpsons if you will indulge The Hulk on this one sir.
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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Well my dear hobbit, a schnob is just someone who is condescending, snooty, or perceives themselves as smarter/better than everyone else.

    A Mr. Burns type from The Simpsons if you will indulge The Hulk on this one sir.
    That is a good way to describe people who dismiss Mayorga!

    Ok, Mayorga has done very little to merit any sort of world standing since the Picarillo fight but he has always been at least competative until he runs out of steam since then.

    Like I said, hes not really interested in any legacy, just earning. If he can get straight shots at big names for big money he will do it. Hes never recently given himself the luxury of warm ups, or tune ups. Hes always been sat around for a year and then got a call out of the blue to be an "opponent" and as tough as Mayorga is, he knows he can compete and just takes it.

    This time though, hes had a fight to get rid of the rust. It will be Cotto whos been out for 9 months and as long as Mayorga is concentrating on this (possible) shot right now and continuing to train from his last fight, then he gives himself a very good shot of a KO win.

    There is a photo of Mayorgas last fight where he is swinging a hook to Walker while he cowers on his haunches in the corner. It reminded me of a shot from the Cotto Margarito fight

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    People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.

    Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.

    Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.

    Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.

    Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    pointless fight and Cotto completely batters him, i don't even think it goes past 6

    people are seriously starting to exaggerate what shape or where Cotto's is at in terms of his career, come 2011 with Steward in his corner IMO he's gonna shock quite a few people with how much he really has left

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.

    Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.

    Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
    I wasnt comparing Mayorga to Margarito, I just said there are similar pictures where Mayorga and Margaritos opponents are being battered

    Also, Margarito might throw that many punches a round but he isnt as big a puncher or as strong as Mayorga. Mosley walked through Margaritos punches and had him out in the ninth but in his very next fight against Ricardo, he is extended in to the 12th and was very wary of Mayorgas power, even jumping off the floor to hold and grab at one point.

    Like I said, regardless of age, Mayorga will be the strongest and hardest hitting fighter that Cotto has faced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.

    Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.

    Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
    I wasnt comparing Mayorga to Margarito, I just said there are similar pictures where Mayorga and Margaritos opponents are being battered

    Also, Margarito might throw that many punches a round but he isnt as big a puncher or as strong as Mayorga. Mosley walked through Margaritos punches and had him out in the ninth but in his very next fight against Ricardo, he is extended in to the 12th and was very wary of Mayorgas power, even jumping off the floor to hold and grab at one point.

    Like I said, regardless of age, Mayorga will be the strongest and hardest hitting fighter that Cotto has faced.
    Mosley didn't take many punches from Margarito, everytime Margarito had him in range Mosley would clinch, push him off and unload or catch him with the overhand right

    and if we wanna play the comparison game, lets not forget that Cotto outboxed Mosley for 12 rounds while Mayorga was knocked out cold in the 12th

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    These are the pictures I mean that are quite similar. Both Mayorga and Margarito have their opponents cowering on the floor.


    mayorga.jpg

    cotto.jpg

    Shame there a bit small like!
    Last edited by ross; 12-23-2010 at 05:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.

    Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.

    Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
    I wasnt comparing Mayorga to Margarito, I just said there are similar pictures where Mayorga and Margaritos opponents are being battered

    Also, Margarito might throw that many punches a round but he isnt as big a puncher or as strong as Mayorga. Mosley walked through Margaritos punches and had him out in the ninth but in his very next fight against Ricardo, he is extended in to the 12th and was very wary of Mayorgas power, even jumping off the floor to hold and grab at one point.

    Like I said, regardless of age, Mayorga will be the strongest and hardest hitting fighter that Cotto has faced.
    Mosley didn't take many punches from Margarito, everytime Margarito had him in range Mosley would clinch, push him off and unload or catch him with the overhand right

    and if we wanna play the comparison game, lets not forget that Cotto outboxed Mosley for 12 rounds while Mayorga was knocked out cold in the 12th
    Mayorga was actually fighting and not skirting the ring. Cotto has always struck me as a bit of a reluctant warrior. Hes ok while his opponent is backing off but a strong aggressive powerfull fighter like Mayorga will put him in that retreating mode until he finds a nice soft corner to go down on his knees in

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.

    Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.

    Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
    I wasnt comparing Mayorga to Margarito, I just said there are similar pictures where Mayorga and Margaritos opponents are being battered

    Also, Margarito might throw that many punches a round but he isnt as big a puncher or as strong as Mayorga. Mosley walked through Margaritos punches and had him out in the ninth but in his very next fight against Ricardo, he is extended in to the 12th and was very wary of Mayorgas power, even jumping off the floor to hold and grab at one point.

    Like I said, regardless of age, Mayorga will be the strongest and hardest hitting fighter that Cotto has faced.
    Mosley didn't take many punches from Margarito, everytime Margarito had him in range Mosley would clinch, push him off and unload or catch him with the overhand right

    and if we wanna play the comparison game, lets not forget that Cotto outboxed Mosley for 12 rounds while Mayorga was knocked out cold in the 12th
    Mayorga was actually fighting and not skirting the ring. Cotto has always struck me as a bit of a reluctant warrior. Hes ok while his opponent is backing off but a strong aggressive powerfull fighter like Mayorga will put him in that retreating mode until he finds a nice soft corner to go down on his knees in
    Cotto is no Mike Tyson who basically quits after 5 rounds don't go his way , Cotto outBOXED Mosley, afterall he's in the sport of BOXING, theres a few pictures like the ones you put of Mayorga strung up on the ropes looking at the ref thanking him for stopping the slaughter for example his losses to DLH and Trinidad, better said two of his public executions

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    People, comparing Mayorga at this point in his career to Margarito back when he fought Miguel Cotto is absolutely ridiculous.

    Mayorga hasn't fought or beaten anyone world class in a long time, he's not a feared fighter, he's not in the greatest shape, and when he's been pressed he breaks down. Margarito was one of the most dangerous fighters around when he fought Cotto, he took punishment and handed it out with some sort of sick twisted happiness....and he was a cheater too so the comparisons are erroneous unless Mayorga tries to load his wraps. Furthermore Mayorga doesn't throw 100+ punches a round and he doesn't react well to being picked off by counter punches.

    Cotto may not be what he used to be but he has enough in his tank to take Mayorga to school....in a very painful way.
    I wasnt comparing Mayorga to Margarito, I just said there are similar pictures where Mayorga and Margaritos opponents are being battered

    Also, Margarito might throw that many punches a round but he isnt as big a puncher or as strong as Mayorga. Mosley walked through Margaritos punches and had him out in the ninth but in his very next fight against Ricardo, he is extended in to the 12th and was very wary of Mayorgas power, even jumping off the floor to hold and grab at one point.

    Like I said, regardless of age, Mayorga will be the strongest and hardest hitting fighter that Cotto has faced.
    Mosley didn't take many punches from Margarito, everytime Margarito had him in range Mosley would clinch, push him off and unload or catch him with the overhand right

    and if we wanna play the comparison game, lets not forget that Cotto outboxed Mosley for 12 rounds while Mayorga was knocked out cold in the 12th
    Mayorga was actually fighting and not skirting the ring. Cotto has always struck me as a bit of a reluctant warrior. Hes ok while his opponent is backing off but a strong aggressive powerfull fighter like Mayorga will put him in that retreating mode until he finds a nice soft corner to go down on his knees in
    Cotto is no Mike Tyson who basically quits after 5 rounds don't go his way , Cotto outBOXED Mosley, afterall he's in the sport of BOXING, theres a few pictures like the ones you put of Mayorga strung up on the ropes looking at the ref thanking him for stopping the slaughter for example his losses to DLH and Trinidad, better said two of his public executions
    Again, the difference is, Cotto is the only one out of those names that quit while he was in his prime and his star was still rising. Tyson and Mayorga were taking fights for the money after long absences.

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Who promote Mayorga?
    What is the poll on a Mayorga vs Cotto fight?

    Mayorga got my vote

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    Default Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

    Hmmmm I know I'm not the only one giving Mayorga a really good chance.
    And after watching DLH/Mayorga pre-fight show special a couple of days ago I was almost convinced he was going to do damage to Oscar

    Cotto isn't as fast as he thinks he is, he can't box like I thought he could, he can't jab as good as we thought, and he doesn't have as effective body punching as he should.

    That's my take on Cotto.

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    Mayorga just beat Michael Walker and you guys think he can not only compete with Miguel Cotto but beat him into submission?!?!?! Just what the fuck are you smoking? Sure Miguel Cotto has had his tough fights, sure he got out sped by Manny Pacquiao and cheated by Margarito and he's had trouble in other fights but Ricardo 'wide swinging, one punch at a time, chain smoking, probably can't legally make 154' Mayorga hasn't really been knocking the top competition dead recently.

    Cotto doesn't have to be Willie Pep to outbox Ricardo Mayorga and he doesn't have to be Oscar De la Hoya or Tito Trinidad to hurt him either. Miguel Cotto will touch Mayorga up to the head and to the body, weaken him a bit, and Cotto will coast a bit in rounds allowing Ricardo to throw a billion punches and tire himself out, and then Mayorga will eat some counters, probably have a broken jaw, and then Cotto will finish him off.

    Miguel Cotto might not be competing at the very elite level of the sport (like with Pacquiao or Mayweather) but he's still world class and Mayorga hasn't been world class since 2005 vs Piccirillo....oddly enough I think that's the last time he LEGALLY made 154 as well.

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