Living Legend Marquez will face LIKAR RAMOS on July 16

[No Contest]

Once again the double standards are afoot in boxing.....nobody is talking shit about this joke of a fight, meanwhile Floyd fights Diaz and is getting shit for it. This isnt even a tune up this is a record padding fight.

[FinitoElDinamita]

I seriously doubt Pac is scared of Chi. WHo to be honest was never an elite fighter that would have trouble him.

Next someone is going to tell me Park Si Hun dominated Roy Jones in the gold medal round.

Do you think Amir Khan is an elite fighter?

One doesn't have to be an elite to compete with pacquiao. Ask Torrecampo, Sengsurat, Nadal Hussein and Agapito sanchez.. But wait, Pac was a " malnurished " teenager at the time right...

[Violent Demise]

So there is no Diaz-JMM fight? Damn.

Nope. JMM will fight Lick My Balls Ramos instead.

Yea kinda like when Pacman ran scared of In Jin Chi to face that bum Jorge SOlis instead, right?

I'm with you on a lot of your points. But you can't try and make it seem like Chi is an elite fighter and at the same time call Solis a bum. Cuz in reality there pretty much on the same level.

But lemme make this clear. JMM did NOT school him. Both guys were giving and taking toe to toe the rest of the rounds.

They were. But any non Pac groupie knows Marquez pretty much took all the rounds after the 2nd.

Once again the double standards are afoot in boxing.....nobody is talking shit about this joke of a fight, meanwhile Floyd fights Diaz and is getting shit for it. This isnt even a tune up this is a record padding fight.

Looking at Marquez last 5 and you'll see he's been in the ring with 3 Ring magazine champions, a unified champion and 2 pound for pound number 1. Anybody bad mouthing Marquez is a fucking idiot

If Floyd fought at the rate Marquez fights he would get a lot more leeway. While his opposition has been questioned, it's not his worse flaw. It's all them stupid ass vacations, layoffs, retirements (whatever the fuck he wants to call them) that gets him the most criticism.

It's a 3 minute round and pacman ran out of time. Whose fault is that??

And if you want to get technical, Pac could have got disqualified for hitting marquez when he was down.. He could have got a point taken away or at worst, got DQd... So either way, there's no way that the first round could have been 10-6..

Pac groupies always ignore that fact. Hell to them that wasn't even a foul.

[generalbulldog]

I seriously doubt Pac is scared of Chi. WHo to be honest was never an elite fighter that would have trouble him.

Next someone is going to tell me Park Si Hun dominated Roy Jones in the gold medal round.

Do you think Amir Khan is an elite fighter?

One doesn't have to be an elite to compete with pacquiao. Ask Torrecampo, Sengsurat, Nadal Hussein and Agapito sanchez.. But wait, Pac was a " malnurished " teenager at the time right...

You don't have to be an elite to compete with him, but this notion that Pac is scared of Injin Chi is ridiculous. At the levels of a Pac or Mayweather, I seriously doubt these guys are scared of another man within their weight class.

Hate him or like him, I don't think a guy that had 3 back to back to back fights with a Barerra, Marquez, Morales is scared of Injin Chi. You know how funny that sounds?

And if Solis is a bum then what does that make Chi?

[FinitoElDinamita]

I seriously doubt Pac is scared of Chi. WHo to be honest was never an elite fighter that would have trouble him.

Next someone is going to tell me Park Si Hun dominated Roy Jones in the gold medal round.

Do you think Amir Khan is an elite fighter?

One doesn't have to be an elite to compete with pacquiao. Ask Torrecampo, Sengsurat, Nadal Hussein and Agapito sanchez.. But wait, Pac was a " malnurished " teenager at the time right...

You don't have to be an elite to compete with him, but this notion that Pac is scared of Injin Chi is ridiculous. At the levels of a Pac or Mayweather, I seriously doubt these guys are scared of another man within their weight class.

Hate him or like him, I don't think a guy that had 3 back to back to back fights with a Barerra, Marquez, Morales is scared of Injin Chi. You know how funny that sounds?

And if Solis is a bum then what does that make Chi?

Shaka/Violent demise, BUm was a little harsh to describe himself I guess but i was trying to point out the fact that a fighter like Solis is a notch below In Jin Chi... You guys said they are fighters of similiar level?? that couldnt be further from the truth. Chi was a legitmate champion at 126 for years and has beaten names like Michael Brodie, Eiichi SUgama, brown and even battled close with a prime Morales. If you guys have seen those fights or are familiar with those names, you wouldn't have any doubts about who's superior. Im not trying to pump up CHi into something more than what he is but you look at their careers and it's Chi who's obviously a level higher. And Chi's performance against a prime Morales tends to get overlooked but watch that fight again and see what kind of hell Morales goes through to get that win. What has Solis done and who has he beaten? He's known for losing to Pacman/gamboa and he couldnt even beat cristobal cruz yet he's on par with someone like Chi who is battle tested and has overcome adversity numerous times??

You guys are wrong about Chi/Solis... And V-Demise, I feel ya too on alot of stuff but I disagree with you here bigtime.

[Gandalf]

Marquez is a legend of the modern game so I have no idea why the Pac groupies are getting so upset with the thread title. Heck, he outboxed Pac TWICE! Pac's only going back in with him as he thinks his youth and weight gain will give him a better chance.

[Violent Demise]

Marquez is a legend of the modern game so I have no idea why the Pac groupies are getting so upset with the thread title. Heck, he outboxed Pac TWICE! Pac's only going back in with him as he thinks his youth and weight gain will give him a better chance.

And he did it with Pac being chemically enhanced in the 2nd fight

[Snakey]

I got no probs with JMM being referred to as a living legend.

[mnmc10]

I have no idea why the Pac groupies are getting so upset with the thread title.

in this thread pac haters outnumbers pac fans so wtf are you guys talking about? accusing pac of different things seems to be the new hobby here in saddo.

to me pac won the first but lost the second to jmm. i also repeatedly said the jmm is pacs thorn. so i got no problem with the "living legend thing"

pac ran away from in jin who? fuckin funny!

[:::PSL:::]

I love kim chi!



VD. Wanna sigbet on the Pac-JMM 3?

One year sounds good?

Don't be like Miles. GROW SOME BOLAS!!!

[Andre]

you're right jmm schooled pac and pac was afraid of what's his face? I give up you win. The video you posted and your replies are overwhelming. The facts are all there! You are a very special member. Good job!

Here's something that'll really make you open your eyes..

I hope this opens yours...



Basically, Pac knocked him down 5x. Do you agree?

Knockdowns did occur, yes, but a fighter is expected to finish the job once he's knocked his opponent down that many times.. Pacman failed at that because once he got figured out, it was a whitewash....

I disagree. 50% of the time, maybe.

Pacquiao didn't fail...

He won!

:-)

Why dont you give me an example of 3 other fights where a fighter scored 3 knockdowns in the first round, only to get schooled for the remainder...

C'mon bruh, in situations like that, most fighters finish the job... unless they are one dimensional.

Pac ran out of time in that round... it is simple as that. In situation like that, most ref would have stopped the fight. That's why I have big respect for JMM. He's got huge heart. Kudos to the ref too.

But lemme make this clear. JMM did NOT school him. Both guys were giving and taking toe to toe the rest of the rounds.

Skill wise I got JMM ahead of Pac, its what keeps him there with him. I got Pac ahead on power and both men have wicked near impenetrable beards.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Once again the double standards are afoot in boxing.....nobody is talking shit about this joke of a fight, meanwhile Floyd fights Diaz and is getting shit for it. This isnt even a tune up this is a record padding fight.

What double standards? MArquez is heading into the biggest bout of his life against the P4P King in Pacquiao in November so who cares who he fights in July.... He can tuneup against anybody he wants. He wanted Diaz but the man priced himself out so that's that.

Is Floyd going to fight fight pacman after Ortiz? probably not, that's why he's getting shit for it... Personally I like the ortiz fight but many others dont approve it..

There are no double standards here.

[Violent Demise]

I love kim chi!



VD. Wanna sigbet on the Pac-JMM 3?

One year sounds good?

Don't be like Miles. GROW SOME BOLAS!!!

What a fucking coward you are. When the fight first gets made you say nothing. But now that Marquez stated he would not ask for extra testing (Pac's camp said there will be no fight if the test were requested) all of a sudden you trying to make a bet. Straight coward move. You don't ever dare make that bet if the extra testing were being done. Hell if the extra testing were required I have no doubt your putting down your life savings on Marquez

[No Contest]

Once again the double standards are afoot in boxing.....nobody is talking shit about this joke of a fight, meanwhile Floyd fights Diaz and is getting shit for it. This isnt even a tune up this is a record padding fight.

What double standards? MArquez is heading into the biggest bout of his life against the P4P King in Pacquiao in November so who cares who he fights in July.... He can tuneup against anybody he wants. He wanted Diaz but the man priced himself out so that's that.

Is Floyd going to fight fight pacman after Ortiz? probably not, that's why he's getting shit for it... Personally I like the ortiz fight but many others dont approve it..

There are no double standards here.

Here let me explain it to you, read slowly so you can understand fully. Marquez has only been off since november not even a full year, he is fighting a guy that has got knocked out by Solis, and lost to Walter Estrada...his opponents have been poor to say the least no big name win at all. Floyd has been off for over a year and is facing a quality opponent no tune up. Yet as VD says you cant talk smack to JMM because he has fought decent opposition in his last 5 fights....what the fuck has Floyd fought? Chopped liver? Give me a break.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Once again the double standards are afoot in boxing.....nobody is talking shit about this joke of a fight, meanwhile Floyd fights Diaz and is getting shit for it. This isnt even a tune up this is a record padding fight.

What double standards? MArquez is heading into the biggest bout of his life against the P4P King in Pacquiao in November so who cares who he fights in July.... He can tuneup against anybody he wants. He wanted Diaz but the man priced himself out so that's that.

Is Floyd going to fight fight pacman after Ortiz? probably not, that's why he's getting shit for it... Personally I like the ortiz fight but many others dont approve it..

There are no double standards here.

Here let me explain it to you, read slowly so you can understand fully. Marquez has only been off since november not even a full year, he is fighting a guy that has got knocked out by Solis, and lost to Walter Estrada...his opponents have been poor to say the least no big name win at all. Floyd has been off for over a year and is facing a quality opponent no tune up. Yet as VD says you cant talk smack to JMM because he has fought decent opposition in his last 5 fights....what the fuck has Floyd fought? Chopped liver? Give me a break.

Everything you said about Ramos is true but that's beside the point. Nobody ever said that Ramos is a worthy opponent, but he is what he is, a safe tuneup. In Marquez situation, he needs to be real careful about who he chooses because if someting goes wrong in the tuneup, Pacman trilogy can be in jeopardy so why risk it? Who else can he possibly fight to prepare himself for Pacman? He knows pacman's style already so all he needs to do is stay sharp against any southpaw out there.

You can't compare marquez to Floyd... Floyd is an exceptional fighter who doesnt need tuneups because he's head and shoulders above the rest.

And about VD's comment.. Marquez is my favorite fighter but Im not going to say that his last 5 fights were better than Floyd's last 5 because it's just not true. In fact, Floyd's last 5 fights were more impressive imo in terms of the significance of the bouts.