Haye Fans Gather Round: What's the winning formula?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Okay, worth a shot... I wanna try ad get all the Haye fans in the place to get on about Hayes, chances, Hayes preparation & Hayes tactics against Wladimir Klitschko this Saturday.

A pro Haye Thread of sorts. I'm sure Lyle can do his own pro Klitschko thread if he likes

Actually, it's also worth discussing Wlads, faults/ tenancies/ vulnerabilities too. What are they and how doe they tie into what Haye can/ should try to do?

[BIG H]

I honestly don't rate Wlad that highly in an all time capacity. He's the 2nd best out there now and has had a very good career. His brother is far superior imo.

I also think Haye is vastly overrated, I just don't see what everybody else seems to. I have never been sold on him and still am not.

I really want Haye to win, but I think he is going to get beaten like a little boy. First time Wlad connects properly Haye is toast imo.

That said, I give him a punchers chance and for me his best bet is to come out in round 1 a la Tyson and go for it!!!

[erics44]

i read somewhere that lennox lewis suggested he needs to stay on the outside like he did against valuev

im not sure, wlads jab is so quick i think he may get caught

i think he needs to get inside and through as many punches as he can and get out and stay well out until he has the chance to get inside and rough him up again for a bit

its kind of an outside for a bit inside for a bit combo

body head to

what do you reckon?

[Mark TKO]

I honestly don't rate Wlad that highly in an all time capacity. He's the 2nd best out there now and has had a very good career. His brother is far superior imo.

I also think Haye is vastly overrated, I just don't see what everybody else seems to. I have never been sold on him and still am not.

I really want Haye to win, but I think he is going to get beaten like a little boy. First time Wlad connects properly Haye is toast imo.

That said, I give him a punchers chance and for me his best bet is to come out in round 1 a la Tyson and go for it!!!

couldnt agree more with this evaluation.

However if Haye does win in explosive style then I will have to admit I got him totally wrong. Maybe we should discard the immature performance against Carl Thompson.

Theres not one fight Wlad has had in recent years when I havent had any doubts he will win but I do have them with this one

I do want Haye to win badly mind.

If he wins in first round I won't be shocked, if he loses in first round I won't be shocked.

The only thing that would surprise me in this fight is Haye by decision.

I can't wait for this one !

[Kev]

Are Haye haters welcome in this thread too?

So guys, when Haye is sprawled out on the canvas unconscious is he going to be belly up or belly down?

I'm going with face down.

[Master]

I think it may go the distance because Haye will use his speed and ring movements by fighting on the outside. If he gets too close he will get hit with the jab and knocked out by the right hand. If he gets tied by Wlad he will get sapped by Wlad leaning on him and tiring him out. He will rely on his superior stamina and speed to take it into the later rounds and try and knock him out then, by which time I think time will have run out and Haye loses a controversial decision for the second British fighter in 2 weeks.

[Dark Lord Al]

I honestly don't rate Wlad that highly in an all time capacity. He's the 2nd best out there now and has had a very good career. His brother is far superior imo.

I also think Haye is vastly overrated, I just don't see what everybody else seems to. I have never been sold on him and still am not.

I really want Haye to win, but I think he is going to get beaten like a little boy. First time Wlad connects properly Haye is toast imo.

That said, I give him a punchers chance and for me his best bet is to come out in round 1 a la Tyson and go for it!!!

I agree with this 100% people talk of speed and distance , Haye has a chance early , but if he ships a big punch from Wlad a true HW puncher he will be Koed.
This is the most exciting build up in years for a hw fight. bombs away!!!!!

[Gandalf]

Haye fans? Bunch of homos.

The winning formula is not to prepare by fighting Barrett and Harrison, Adamek has a better HW resume for crying out loud.

This beatdown is going to be fun.

[erics44]

Haye fans? Bunch of homos.

The winning formula is not to prepare by fighting Barrett and Harrison, Adamek has a better HW resume for crying out loud.

This beatdown is going to be fun.

It is probably true that there are some homo haye fans but there are a lot more homo wlad fans. FACT

[Gandalf]

Haye fans? Bunch of homos.

The winning formula is not to prepare by fighting Barrett and Harrison, Adamek has a better HW resume for crying out loud.

This beatdown is going to be fun.

It is probably true that there are some homo haye fans but there are a lot more homo wlad fans. FACT

Nah, but there are some for sure. It's all in good fun.

[Teas]

Speed is key. Think haye will come in and take a look for a couple of rounds see how fast or slow the jab is and work round timing off that, with his right hand, will be very exciting fight or to some people boring. All depends on if haye opens up early in the fight or later on.

[GAME]

Speed is key. Think haye will come in and take a look for a couple of rounds see how fast or slow the jab is and work round timing off that, with his right hand, will be very exciting fight or to some people boring. All depends on if haye opens up early in the fight or later on.

Speed kills in boxing. When a fight is so hard to call I tend to go with the quicker man.

He should follow the blueprint laid out by Corrie Sanders. He was in a similar position - powerful guy with quick hands but incapable of a long hard fight and cant absorb a flush punch from Wvlad. So Corrie stayed on the outside and used ambush tactics that worked a treat.

Barry and Ricky were on about Haye taking centre ring catching the jab and pushing Wvlad back. No chance. Thats suicidal tactics that he doesnt have the chin for. Look how he has fought his big nights against Valuev, Audley and Valuev - He has always taken a long look then burst into action. He even trains that way. No long distance runs its all about explosive bursts cuz he is an athlete and fights like 1.

I see it caution from both men, maybe we will hear some booing but Wvlads use to that, he wont mind and neither will Haye cuz whe it catches fire it will get very interesting.

[Hornfinger]

Time the jab, step off to the side Right hand over the top. That will win the fight.

[Andre]

Time the jab, step off to the side Right hand over the top. That will win the fight.

Its his only hope really.
Hope he's been practicing it. I recon the only way to time that reach and jab would be to have been practicing with a tall lanky lighter weighted fast ground coverer that throws controlling jabs.Then break down the timing with reactive footwork so that as he moves Haye also shifts or attacks the jab out of the way to disrupt balance so to still catch them coming and be in distance with a finishing combo as wlads reacting. Easier said than done if you haven't been doing it in sparring. that overhand right would be a wicked finisher if the opponent was still reacting to something else so it is unseen.

Still Wlad within 10 minutes.

[marbleheadmaui]

Time the jab, step off to the side Right hand over the top. That will win the fight.

Its his only hope really.
Hope he's been practicing it. I recon the only way to time that reach and jab would be to have been practicing with a tall lanky lighter weighted fast ground coverer that throws controlling jabs.Then break down the timing with reactive footwork so that as he moves Haye also shifts or attacks the jab out of the way to disrupt balance so to still catch them coming and be in distance with a finishing combo as wlads reacting. Easier said than done if you haven't been doing it in sparring. that overhand right would be a wicked finisher if the opponent was still reacting to something else so it is unseen.

Still Wlad within 10 minutes.

Time the jab, step to the right and BOOM! Left hook by Wlad off the jab.