British/Common Wealth titles ? What do they mean ?

[erics44]

I think anything that relates to the commonwealth should be scrapped. That includes the Commonwealth Games. Just a daft outdated relic.

The British Title is still very prestigious though, but maybe if only for fighters that are never gonna be world beaters?

the commonwealth belt is a decent belt

One below the british if you like and very prestigeous

and the commonwealth games are decent, the one in Manchester a few years back did endless good for the city and the country

for instance the veladrome (spelling) was built for the games and since a lot of the training for the british bike athletes happens there, and look at how many golds we won in those events in the last olympics

[erics44]

The British title is a big deal. If you defend it twice you win the Lonsdale belt, a belt you get to keep outright. Throughout British history it's been one of the most sought after honours for many British fighters and those who have won it are well remembered in British boxing history.

i think you just need to win 3 british title fights at the same weight dont you to get one to keep?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I think anything that relates to the commonwealth should be scrapped. That includes the Commonwealth Games. Just a daft outdated relic.

The British Title is still very prestigious though, but maybe if only for fighters that are never gonna be world beaters?

the commonwealth belt is a decent belt

One below the british if you like and very prestigeous

and the commonwealth games are decent, the one in Manchester a few years back did endless good for the city and the country

for instance the veladrome (spelling) was built for the games and since a lot of the training for the british bike athletes happens there, and look at how many golds we won in those events in the last olympics

Good point on the CW games, were regeneration is concerned but that has naff all to do with Boxing ay?

[erics44]

I think anything that relates to the commonwealth should be scrapped. That includes the Commonwealth Games. Just a daft outdated relic.

The British Title is still very prestigious though, but maybe if only for fighters that are never gonna be world beaters?

the commonwealth belt is a decent belt

One below the british if you like and very prestigeous

and the commonwealth games are decent, the one in Manchester a few years back did endless good for the city and the country

for instance the veladrome (spelling) was built for the games and since a lot of the training for the british bike athletes happens there, and look at how many golds we won in those events in the last olympics

Good point on the CW games, were regeneration is concerned but that has naff all to do with Boxing ay?

you said anything to do with the commonwealth should be scrapped

[FTMatty]

The British title is a big deal. If you defend it twice you win the Lonsdale belt, a belt you get to keep outright. Throughout British history it's been one of the most sought after honours for many British fighters and those who have won it are well remembered in British boxing history.

The list of outright winners is actually pretty small.

From Wikipedia

• Freddie Welsh (1912) [1]
• Jim Driscoll (1910)
• Digger Stanley (1910)
• Bombardier Billy Wells (heavyweight) (1913)
• Jimmy Wilde (flyweight) (1917)
• Pat O'Keeffe (middleweight) (191
• Johnny Brown (bantamweight) (1923) (defended twice 1925, retained)
• Jack Petersen (heavyweight) (1935)
• Nel Tarleton (outright winner of two belts in 1936 and 1945)
• Jackie Paterson (flyweight) (1943)
• Ronnie Clayton (outright winner of two belts in 1950 and 1953)
• Randolph Turpin (light-heavyweight) (1952, outright in 1956)
• Peter Keenan (outright winner of two belts in 1953 and 1957)
• Henry Cooper (outright winner of three belts)
• Brian Curvis (outright winner of two belts in 1961 and 1964)
• Howard Winstone (outright winner of two belts in 1962 and 1963)
• Maurice Cullen (lightweight) (1966)
• George Feeney (1984)
• Hugh Russell (1985)
• Billy Hardy (bantamweight) (1989)
• Lennox Lewis (heavyweight) (1992)
• Richie Wenton (super-bantam weight) (1994 - 1996)
• Julius Francis (heavyweight) (1999)
• Michael Gomez (super featherweight) (2000)
• Danny Williams (heavyweight) (2002)
• David Barnes (welterweight) (2004)
• Matt Skelton (heavyweight) (2005)
• Scott Dann (middleweight) (2005)
• Carl Froch (super middleweight) (2006)
• Kell Brook (welterweight) (2009)
• John Simpson (featherweight) (2010)

That is a fascinating list! Thanks.

Winstone is one of those guys we don't talk about enough.

I heard a while back that there was a film about Winstone coming out. Might be interesting.

The film is called Risen, and TBH it aint great.
Al though it does have Erik Morales in it.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I think anything that relates to the commonwealth should be scrapped. That includes the Commonwealth Games. Just a daft outdated relic.

The British Title is still very prestigious though, but maybe if only for fighters that are never gonna be world beaters?

the commonwealth belt is a decent belt

One below the british if you like and very prestigeous

and the commonwealth games are decent, the one in Manchester a few years back did endless good for the city and the country

for instance the veladrome (spelling) was built for the games and since a lot of the training for the british bike athletes happens there, and look at how many golds we won in those events in the last olympics

Good point on the CW games, were regeneration is concerned but that has naff all to do with Boxing ay?

you said anything to do with the commonwealth should be scrapped

Yeah... Then you made a valid point regarding Regeneration. But that has nothing to do with the Commonwealth belt.
So what I'm saying is, I retract my comment about The games, simply on the premise it creates jobs & wealth for our nation (tbc).

Kapeesh?

[erics44]

I think anything that relates to the commonwealth should be scrapped. That includes the Commonwealth Games. Just a daft outdated relic.

The British Title is still very prestigious though, but maybe if only for fighters that are never gonna be world beaters?

the commonwealth belt is a decent belt

One below the british if you like and very prestigeous

and the commonwealth games are decent, the one in Manchester a few years back did endless good for the city and the country

for instance the veladrome (spelling) was built for the games and since a lot of the training for the british bike athletes happens there, and look at how many golds we won in those events in the last olympics

Good point on the CW games, were regeneration is concerned but that has naff all to do with Boxing ay?

you said anything to do with the commonwealth should be scrapped

Yeah... Then you made a valid point regarding Regeneration. But that has nothing to do with the Commonwealth belt.
So what I'm saying is, I retract my comment about The games, simply on the premise it creates jobs & wealth for our nation (tbc).

Kapeesh?

i get you now, you need to make this shit clear in the first place

by the way, the commonwealth belt is a very valid belt

not only does it give british fighters a clear route to the british title it also gives fighters from poorer african countries who are struggling to live a chance to make some money

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I think anything that relates to the commonwealth should be scrapped. That includes the Commonwealth Games. Just a daft outdated relic.

The British Title is still very prestigious though, but maybe if only for fighters that are never gonna be world beaters?

the commonwealth belt is a decent belt

One below the british if you like and very prestigeous

and the commonwealth games are decent, the one in Manchester a few years back did endless good for the city and the country

for instance the veladrome (spelling) was built for the games and since a lot of the training for the british bike athletes happens there, and look at how many golds we won in those events in the last olympics

Good point on the CW games, were regeneration is concerned but that has naff all to do with Boxing ay?

you said anything to do with the commonwealth should be scrapped

Yeah... Then you made a valid point regarding Regeneration. But that has nothing to do with the Commonwealth belt.
So what I'm saying is, I retract my comment about The games, simply on the premise it creates jobs & wealth for our nation (tbc).

Kapeesh?

i get you now, you need to make this shit clear in the first place

by the way, the commonwealth belt is a very valid belt

not only does it give british fighters a clear route to the british title it also gives fighters from poorer african countries who are struggling to live a chance to make some money

Meh... It's not valid. The commonwealth is not valid as it is virtually not existent.

[erics44]

I think anything that relates to the commonwealth should be scrapped. That includes the Commonwealth Games. Just a daft outdated relic.

The British Title is still very prestigious though, but maybe if only for fighters that are never gonna be world beaters?

the commonwealth belt is a decent belt

One below the british if you like and very prestigeous

and the commonwealth games are decent, the one in Manchester a few years back did endless good for the city and the country

for instance the veladrome (spelling) was built for the games and since a lot of the training for the british bike athletes happens there, and look at how many golds we won in those events in the last olympics

Good point on the CW games, were regeneration is concerned but that has naff all to do with Boxing ay?

you said anything to do with the commonwealth should be scrapped

Yeah... Then you made a valid point regarding Regeneration. But that has nothing to do with the Commonwealth belt.
So what I'm saying is, I retract my comment about The games, simply on the premise it creates jobs & wealth for our nation (tbc).

Kapeesh?

i get you now, you need to make this shit clear in the first place

by the way, the commonwealth belt is a very valid belt

not only does it give british fighters a clear route to the british title it also gives fighters from poorer african countries who are struggling to live a chance to make some money

Meh... It's not valid. The commonwealth is not valid as it is virtually not existent.

whats that got to do with boxing?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Meh... It's not valid. The commonwealth is not valid as it is virtually not existent.

whats that got to do with boxing?

Well, it's a Commonwealth title which is a joke because the the Commonwealth is a sham. Non-entity.
It may as well be the Super British Title.

And even if the Commonwealth games does generate jobs and such, I still find it farcical. Even Britain barley exists, let alone the Nation of the Commonwealth. What Commonwealth?!

I mean why compete as England for one set of games but suddenly your Team GBR for the other games? It's just daft and out dated.

[erics44]

Meh... It's not valid. The commonwealth is not valid as it is virtually not existent.

whats that got to do with boxing?

Well, it's a Commonwealth title which is a joke because the the Commonwealth is a sham. Non-entity.
It may as well be the Super British Title.

And even if the Commonwealth games does generate jobs and such, I still find it farcical. Even Britain barley exists, let alone the Nation of the Commonwealth. What Commonwealth?!

I mean why compete as England for one set of games but suddenly your Team GBR for the other games? It's just daft and out dated.

naa youre talking rubbish

do we need to get rid of the monarchy too?

be proud of your british heritage

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Meh... It's not valid. The commonwealth is not valid as it is virtually not existent.

whats that got to do with boxing?

Well, it's a Commonwealth title which is a joke because the the Commonwealth is a sham. Non-entity.
It may as well be the Super British Title.

And even if the Commonwealth games does generate jobs and such, I still find it farcical. Even Britain barley exists, let alone the Nation of the Commonwealth. What Commonwealth?!

I mean why compete as England for one set of games but suddenly your Team GBR for the other games? It's just daft and out dated.

naa youre talking rubbish

do we need to get rid of the monarchy too?

be proud of your british heritage

No. We should get rid of them but it would cost far too much money!

Where I am born is simply a matter of circumstance to which I'm no victim of.

[erics44]

Meh... It's not valid. The commonwealth is not valid as it is virtually not existent.

whats that got to do with boxing?

Well, it's a Commonwealth title which is a joke because the the Commonwealth is a sham. Non-entity.
It may as well be the Super British Title.

And even if the Commonwealth games does generate jobs and such, I still find it farcical. Even Britain barley exists, let alone the Nation of the Commonwealth. What Commonwealth?!

I mean why compete as England for one set of games but suddenly your Team GBR for the other games? It's just daft and out dated.

naa youre talking rubbish

do we need to get rid of the monarchy too?

be proud of your british heritage

No. We should get rid of them but it would cost far too much money!

Where I am born is simply a matter of circumstance to which I'm no victim of.

is it the weather you dont like?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Meh... It's not valid. The commonwealth is not valid as it is virtually not existent.

whats that got to do with boxing?

Well, it's a Commonwealth title which is a joke because the the Commonwealth is a sham. Non-entity.
It may as well be the Super British Title.

And even if the Commonwealth games does generate jobs and such, I still find it farcical. Even Britain barley exists, let alone the Nation of the Commonwealth. What Commonwealth?!

I mean why compete as England for one set of games but suddenly your Team GBR for the other games? It's just daft and out dated.

naa youre talking rubbish

do we need to get rid of the monarchy too?

be proud of your british heritage

No. We should get rid of them but it would cost far too much money!

Where I am born is simply a matter of circumstance to which I'm no victim of.

is it the weather you dont like?

No. Gives most 'Brit's' something to talk about.

[armyash]

In most cases the belt holder is usually the best in the division (unless there's world champs etc) and even if the belt holder isn't the best then competition for the belt can be pretty good. For me that makes the British title very relevant and i'm happy it's still something held in high regard among other fighters.

Even now some of the fights we see for the British title are breathtaking because it's a belt still worth fighting for!

If i was a pro i'd love one