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    Cool Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Ex 200m & 400m runner Michael Johnson because no matter how hard he his pushed across the first 3/4 he'll always pull away at the end!

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Ex 200m & 400m runner Michael Johnson because no matter how hard he his pushed across the first 3/4 he'll always pull away at the end!
    Maybe u missed the race between him and Donavan bailey.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Bolt would kick his ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Bolt would kick his ass.
    Not over 400m he wouldn't.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    pac reminds me of Bold, he usually leave the others way behind

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    Quote Originally Posted by alqaqa View Post
    pac reminds me of Bold, he usually leave the others way behind
    You obviously didn't watch his last fight

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    Pacquiao beats Cotto 10 times out of 10. He destroyed Cotto, beat him down to the point where Cotto went into full survival mode.

    It had nothing to do with weight, or gameplans, or anything like that. Pacquiao punched harder, moved faster, and took a punch better than Cotto. The Cotto who fought Floyd doesn't beat Manny, he gets TKOd just like the 2009 version of Cotto did.

    Cotto is one of my favorite fighters, but anyone suggesting that Cotto could beat Pacquiao has forgotten what their first fight looked like.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    That's your opinion. Mine is that Cotto had no clue as to how to establish a gameplan against Pacquiao. He actually started the Pac fight pretty good and arguably took the first two rounds. Beyond that, he had no corner to give him direction. Plus his stamina was still suspect at that time. Pedro Diaz not only has worked on improving Cotto's stamina... he's also taken over the corner as the boss every fighter needs. Given that Cotto gave Floyd his toughest fight in quite some time, it stands to reason he'd have a pretty good chance against Pacquiao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    That's your opinion. Mine is that Cotto had no clue as to how to establish a gameplan against Pacquiao. He actually started the Pac fight pretty good and arguably took the first two rounds. Beyond that, he had no corner to give him direction. Plus his stamina was still suspect at that time. Pedro Diaz not only has worked on improving Cotto's stamina... he's also taken over the corner as the boss every fighter needs. Given that Cotto gave Floyd his toughest fight in quite some time, it stands to reason he'd have a pretty good chance against Pacquiao.
    Cotto wasn't weight drained against Floyd either, so that helped a lot too

    Obviously if Cotto and Pacquiao fought at 154 as prepared as Cotto was for his fight with Floyd I'd pick Cotto, but at the same time I felt Floyd wasn't as aggressive as he should have been when Cotto was taking that mid round rest and allowing Floyd to pressure him. if it was Pacquiao Cotto would have gotten no rest and may have been in trouble. But considering it's Cotto's natural weight and he'd have much better preparation I think Cotto would give a MUCH better performance, especially with his new found jab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Pacquiao beats Cotto 10 times out of 10. He destroyed Cotto, beat him down to the point where Cotto went into full survival mode.

    It had nothing to do with weight, or gameplans, or anything like that. Pacquiao punched harder, moved faster, and took a punch better than Cotto. The Cotto who fought Floyd doesn't beat Manny, he gets TKOd just like the 2009 version of Cotto did.

    Cotto is one of my favorite fighters, but anyone suggesting that Cotto could beat Pacquiao has forgotten what their first fight looked like.
    This.

    You can imagine as many excuses as possible but it would never justify a reverse of that one-sided beating.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Pacquiao beats Cotto 10 times out of 10. He destroyed Cotto, beat him down to the point where Cotto went into full survival mode.

    It had nothing to do with weight, or gameplans, or anything like that. Pacquiao punched harder, moved faster, and took a punch better than Cotto. The Cotto who fought Floyd doesn't beat Manny, he gets TKOd just like the 2009 version of Cotto did.

    Cotto is one of my favorite fighters, but anyone suggesting that Cotto could beat Pacquiao has forgotten what their first fight looked like.
    This.

    You can imagine as many excuses as possible but it would never justify a reverse of that one-sided beating.

    Oh no... it's you again.

    Exactly just how do you "justify a reverse"? I realize English isn't my native language, so maybe there's something I missed there. C'mon dude... nobody's arguing the results of the first fight (so no need to add your signature "fact"). Cotto was TKO'ed. No ifs, ands, or buts. However, we ARE allowed to speculate as to the results of a rematch, are we not? And how else to speculate on the results, except by going back to the first fight and analyzing the factors that went into that fight. Again, we're not talking about excuses. Cotto didn't have a bad shoulder, he didn't have the flu... nothing like that. If you've cared to notice, I haven't even gone too much into the catchweight factor, 'cause I believe one or two pounds either way don't make much difference.

    But in order to speculate on the results of a rematch, I have to look at the differences the fighters would have going into the rematch, as opposed to their first fight. In Cotto's case, the biggest thing is he actually has a trainer now. He went from his uncle to some "Joe Blow" who didn't have a clue about boxing. Of course that's Cotto's fault and Cotto's decision. So again... no excuse. But it does have a bearing on the result of the first fight. That's not an opinion... it's a fact. Would today's Cotto (with Pedro Diaz in his corner) beat Pacquiao in a rematch? I say "maybe". Would the result be the same as the first fight? I say "probably not".

    Consider Pac's fight with Hatton, probably the most one-sided championship affair since Mike Tyson KO'ed Michael Spinks. Does the fact that Pac separated Hatton from his senses in the 2nd round mean he's an exponentially better fighter than Hatton? Obviously, he's much better. But had they had a rematch and Hatton had a different gameplan and training regimen..... isn't it conceivable that the result wouldn't have been quite as catastrophic? Well.... maybe that's a bad example. After all, I think Mike Tyson would've also KO'ed Spinks even quicker the 2nd time around.

    Anyway, and excuse the rambling... I'm not arguing against the results of the 1st fight. I'm using factors from that fight and differences in Cotto now, to speculate as to the possible results of a 2nd fight. That's all I'm doing.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    Pacquiao beats Cotto 10 times out of 10. He destroyed Cotto, beat him down to the point where Cotto went into full survival mode.

    It had nothing to do with weight, or gameplans, or anything like that. Pacquiao punched harder, moved faster, and took a punch better than Cotto. The Cotto who fought Floyd doesn't beat Manny, he gets TKOd just like the 2009 version of Cotto did.

    Cotto is one of my favorite fighters, but anyone suggesting that Cotto could beat Pacquiao has forgotten what their first fight looked like.
    This.

    You can imagine as many excuses as possible but it would never justify a reverse of that one-sided beating.

    Oh no... it's you again.

    Exactly just how do you "justify a reverse"? I realize English isn't my native language, so maybe there's something I missed there. C'mon dude... nobody's arguing the results of the first fight (so no need to add your signature "fact"). Cotto was TKO'ed. No ifs, ands, or buts. However, we ARE allowed to speculate as to the results of a rematch, are we not? And how else to speculate on the results, except by going back to the first fight and analyzing the factors that went into that fight. Again, we're not talking about excuses. Cotto didn't have a bad shoulder, he didn't have the flu... nothing like that. If you've cared to notice, I haven't even gone too much into the catchweight factor, 'cause I believe one or two pounds either way don't make much difference.

    But in order to speculate on the results of a rematch, I have to look at the differences the fighters would have going into the rematch, as opposed to their first fight. In Cotto's case, the biggest thing is he actually has a trainer now. He went from his uncle to some "Joe Blow" who didn't have a clue about boxing. Of course that's Cotto's fault and Cotto's decision. So again... no excuse. But it does have a bearing on the result of the first fight. That's not an opinion... it's a fact. Would today's Cotto (with Pedro Diaz in his corner) beat Pacquiao in a rematch? I say "maybe". Would the result be the same as the first fight? I say "probably not".

    Consider Pac's fight with Hatton, probably the most one-sided championship affair since Mike Tyson KO'ed Michael Spinks. Does the fact that Pac separated Hatton from his senses in the 2nd round mean he's an exponentially better fighter than Hatton? Obviously, he's much better. But had they had a rematch and Hatton had a different gameplan and training regimen..... isn't it conceivable that the result wouldn't have been quite as catastrophic? Well.... maybe that's a bad example. After all, I think Mike Tyson would've also KO'ed Spinks even quicker the 2nd time around.

    Anyway, and excuse the rambling... I'm not arguing against the results of the 1st fight. I'm using factors from that fight and differences in Cotto now, to speculate as to the possible results of a 2nd fight. That's all I'm doing.

    Peace, bro.
    I totally agree with you, some people on here need to open their minds up to the real world of boxing, instead of thinking it's some kind of turn based game of probability where a computer takes the various attributes of each fighter and rolls a dice to see who KO's who. In the real world fights have so many different variables that two fighters can produce two very different fights on two separate occasions. Having seen what Marquez did to PAC in their third fight, I thin Cotto is a good enough boxer that he could follow that blueprint and make some headway with it. I don't think he'd be as good at executing that plan cos' I think Marquez is a better boxer, but one advantage he would have on Marquez would be (comparable) youth and more power. When PAC decided to be all macho in their first fight and let Cotto hit him he got his face rearranged (didn't he burst his eardrum?) Imagine if Cotto could simply land more in the fight by applying some of the techniques that Marquez used - it could, potentially, change the dynamic of a fight between these two entirely.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    TitoFan,

    1. I didn't add my signature.

    2. I agree that Hatton would almost certainly get sparked out in a rematch with Pac. He was so emphatically annihilated that it's virtually ludicrous to imagine a scenario where he can reverse the situation. But the same goes for Cotto too. The only real reason Cotto made the 12th round before being knocked out is because he has self-preservation instincts. Once he realised Pac was far superior he did everything in his power to survive.

    Hatton is far braver/dumber (whatever one chooses to believe) than Cotto. He would rather go out on his shield than concede/quit/survive.

    So in conclusion - I see no positives Cotto can draw from the first fight regardless of the trainer/weight "excuses." I also believe Cotto's impressive self-preservation instincts means he wouldn't even dare fight Pac again.

    It's just my opinion though. Fact.
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