Calzaghe vs Jones Jr or Mayweather v Mosley?

[Fenster]

Mayweather over Mosley was the bigger victory by a country mile. Mosley's stock had skyrocketed at the time with his win over Margarito. He was a legitimate fight for Floyd, both ranking-wise and stylistically, as a lot of people felt Mosley's speed and power would give Floyd fits.

No one bought Roy as a serious contender at that point in his career. The fight was a joke. "Well they didn't fight when they were in their primes at 168, so lets have them fight now." Meaningless fight IMO.

Actually that's not true. Lots of "experts" and tons of fans picked Roy to win (don't shoot the messenger, but this can be backed up with evidence, just saying).

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Bhop: "Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power."

Lewis: "Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think it'll be a very close fight."

Lacy: "It's going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and set-up a big money fight again with Hopkins!"

Glen johnson: "Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy's will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones' hard-hitting punches make the difference."

Vernon Forest: "Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision."

Malinaggi: "It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision."

Mickey Ward: "It's a pick 'em fight. I'd pick Calzaghe but you can't count Jones out. I can't pick a winner in this fight. They're both up in age. Jones is coming off a good fight (vs. Trinidad). I like Calzaghe to outbox Jones, who has been knocked out twice, but he didn't show any effects in his last fight."

Winky Wright:"I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe's and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think it's Calzaghe late in the fight."
"Chad Dawson: It's a tough one to call. It's a very even match up.

They all said the same about lacy too LOL. Secondly, don't give calaghe shit for this fight it was jones calling calzaghe out! Calzaghe humiliated him for doing so.

[Master]

Hopkins did not fight Joe when he was middleweight champion because he was waiting for his contract with King to run out. It did not matter if they offered Hokins $6 million he would have increased it again. Hopkins was waiting for the golden goose in Oscar De La Hoya. So although B Hop earned less he did make more in the long run.

[TitoFan]

So do you let Calzaghe finish in your mouth or are his hands too brittle for that so you just take it in the ass like a true brit!

Are you suggesting that British guys take it up the rump? We're not Puerto Rican you know!!

Bitch

Aw you're just jealous 'cause no British fighter has come out of the closet yet.

[El Kabong]

Mayweather over Mosley was the bigger victory by a country mile. Mosley's stock had skyrocketed at the time with his win over Margarito. He was a legitimate fight for Floyd, both ranking-wise and stylistically, as a lot of people felt Mosley's speed and power would give Floyd fits.

No one bought Roy as a serious contender at that point in his career. The fight was a joke. "Well they didn't fight when they were in their primes at 168, so lets have them fight now." Meaningless fight IMO.

Actually that's not true. Lots of "experts" and tons of fans picked Roy to win (don't shoot the messenger, but this can be backed up with evidence, just saying).

....same "experts" who picked Tyson over Lewis I suppose

[Beanflicker]

Wow, I'm absolutely shocked that so many pros picked Jones. I remember it being a lot more unanimously in Calzaghe's favor. I guess the pros who picked him went on false hope that the old Roy would show up.

I still stick by the fact that Mosley was a much better win for Floyd.

[imp]

So many experts are hyping up the fight. Thats there job. Hype creates interest.
Who cares anyway we all know the truth.
Clinton woods fought the jones calzaghe should have fought but the story is already written.
Jones will call anyone out after them knockouts he recieved!
I thought natural progression in life is too move up, better yourself and take risks.

[imp]

A prime RJJ would toy with JC.
That invisible chin of RJJ would reappear and JC would be happy to just go 12 rounds knowing he hanged with a legend.

[ICB]

Just to reply about the comment regarding Richie Woodhall, yes he comeback vs Markus Beyer but he still lost points wise but quite a margin atleast 3 or 4 points. And he barely survived the 3rd round and when i mean barely i mean barely. If the round was 10 seconds longer, Richie Woodhall would of been stopped by a feather fisted fighter.

Richie Woodhall was a good Amateur but he never really produced the good's in the pro ranks. Fair play he won a world title but his short reign was very unimpressive, a total gift decision vs Glenn Catley and being floored by a Vincenzo Nardiello who come into the fight on short notice is not that impressive.

Don't get me wrong i like Richie Woodhall, he seems like a decent bloke. But he never really produced in the pro ranks IMO.

[Althugz]

Calzaghe was probably the most 'SHOT' fighter operating at world level for decades!

Sorry but that's where I stopped reading. With an opening premise like that objectivity just flew the coup.

Same...the guy gets worse every time I log on.

[Althugz]

Wow, I'm absolutely shocked that so many pros picked Jones. I remember it being a lot more unanimously in Calzaghe's favor. I guess the pros who picked him went on false hope that the old Roy would show up.

I still stick by the fact that Mosley was a much better win for Floyd.

You're right mate - Surprised this even up for discussion. Floyd victory over Mosley was a 10x better victory. You only need to go back to the time when it was happening to see what people thought about it. At first it was "Floyd will never fight Shane..he's too scared. He needs to fight him to be the man at welter..blah blah" - he signed up for the fight a week later and people were full of praise. Hindsights a wonderful thing..I don't think anybody saw Jones vs Calzaghe as anymore than a circus exhibition.

[Fenster]

Hindsights a wonderful thing..I don't think anybody saw Jones vs Calzaghe as anymore than a circus exhibition.

Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing. You picked Roy to win the "circus exhibition" along with a whole bunch of fans.

Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win?? - View Poll Results

J.Calzaghe Vs R.Jones Jr Poll - View Poll Results

[Althugz]

Hindsights a wonderful thing..I don't think anybody saw Jones vs Calzaghe as anymore than a circus exhibition.

Yes hindsight is a wonderful thing. You picked Roy to win the "circus exhibition" along with a whole bunch of fans.

Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win?? - View Poll Results

J.Calzaghe Vs R.Jones Jr Poll - View Poll Results

Do you know what, in the back of my mind, I had a feeling that I did and that somebody would pull me up on it. I really, really, really wanted Roy to win. I prayed he still had even a smidgen of the old Roy Jones because I so badly wanted him to knock out JC. I didn't want him getting the satisfaction of beating a legend of the sport and then claiming "he beat Roy Jones" like the arrogant twat that he is.

You should have seen me after that first round K.O. I was jumping up and down..JC was hurt and I thought, like the old Roy Jones, that he was going to dispatch him there and then to cement his greatness. It didn't happen and seconds later when all Roy did was smile, stick his tongue out and let JC recover by not throwing ANY punches, I knew that the fight was a circus exhibition that Roy had no intention of taking seriously.

So yeah, I picked him. Couldn't bring myself to pick the twat over a legend like Roy

[Dia bando]

A prime RJJ would toy with JC.
That invisible chin of RJJ would reappear and JC would be happy to just go 12 rounds knowing he hanged with a legend.

RJJ in my opinion never had to prove he had a great chin, as his game was to hit and hop it he never
really engaged in toe to toe stuff. Jones relied on his reflexes, and speed, he was not a fighter I never
really took to, I can say I never really enjoyed watching him fight.
His style of fighting is not for me, as with Hopkins not for me it's down to your taste , I do like Mayweather and Mosley. As with all things in life, if we all liked the same things it would be boring.

[Bobthepen]

Can't believe this is really a discussion.

Mosley was coming off a sensational knockout victory over a man many regarded as the number one fighter in a talent rich division.

Jones Jr. was coming off a listless outpointing of a former welterweight standout who hadn't fought in three years at a catchweight of 170lbs.