DeMarco vs. Broner - Saturday night chat/fight thread

[Rantcatrat]

@Mars_ex - do you know the odds on the Broner-Demarco fight?

[Mars_ax]

@Mars_ex - do you know the odds on the Broner-Demarco fight?

No Sir, not the exact odds, but I heard Broner is a big favorite. I could be wrong, but I believe DeMarco is being underrated here, and i've yet to see how Broner does against a live dog who has decent power.

[DavilaJones]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

[Mars_ax]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

A little of both, but besides Ponce what 'top' fighter has Broner faced or beaten? Broner may be really good, the thing is he hasn't proved it yet. If he blitzes though DeMarco, his fans can start saying he's all that, right now he's just a great prospect. Keep in mind, Broner's only claim to fame is winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against mediocre opponents. Let's keep it fucking real.

[IamInuit]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

A little of both, but besides Ponce what 'top' fighter has Broner faced or beaten? Broner may be really good, the thing is he hasn't proved it yet. If he blitzes though DeMarco, his fans can start saying he's all that, right now he's just a great prospect. Keep in mind, Broner's only claim to fame is winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against mediocre opponents. Let's keep it fucking real.

Its quite clear that you do not like the man but I'd like to know how his fans are not being real? People make far to big a deal out of the Ponce fight. That happens and it was Broners 20th fight. Much to do about nothing. Anyone who has watched the sport in any kind of a serious way can see that this kid has enormous talent. He's only 23 and only has 24 fights. Floyd fought a battle warn Hernandez (rip) in his 18th fight followed by a weird stop against Manfredy and then a selection of worn out vets and then fighting Augustus in his 24th fight. All along being touted as special. Very similar competition background. Alvarez is drawing in on 50 fights and you barely hear a peep about his lack of comp. Yet he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Broner could be the next Floyd or maybe the next Ibeabuchi but I think he is going to frustrate the hell out of DeMarco and stop him.

[Rantcatrat]

Canelo gets a lot of backlash for his opposition thus far. A lot of people think he's overrated b/c of it.

For the record, Broner will dominate Demarco. Early-mid round stoppage.

Current Odds are Broner -500.

[Mars_ax]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

A little of both, but besides Ponce what 'top' fighter has Broner faced or beaten? Broner may be really good, the thing is he hasn't proved it yet. If he blitzes though DeMarco, his fans can start saying he's all that, right now he's just a great prospect. Keep in mind, Broner's only claim to fame is winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against mediocre opponents. Let's keep it fucking real.

Its quite clear that you do not like the man but I'd like to know how his fans are not being real? People make far to big a deal out of the Ponce fight. That happens and it was Broners 20th fight. Much to do about nothing. Anyone who has watched the sport in any kind of a serious way can see that this kid has enormous talent. He's only 23 and only has 24 fights. Floyd fought a battle warn Hernandez (rip) in his 18th fight followed by a weird stop against Manfredy and then a selection of worn out vets and then fighting Augustus in his 24th fight. All along being touted as special. Very similar competition background. Alvarez is drawing in on 50 fights and you barely hear a peep about his lack of comp. Yet he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Broner could be the next Floyd or maybe the next Ibeabuchi but I think he is going to frustrate the hell out of DeMarco and stop him.

Gosh Inuit, go figure, why would you think I don't like Broner bro.
I know you're a big fan of Broner, but from my perspective, beating a bunch of taxi drivers/tomato-cans, then winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against more mediocre opponents doesn't really prove much. DeMarco is Broner's first real test, if he looks good, then you Broner's boners might have something to start shouting about. Keep in mind, even if he gets by DeMarco, it remains to be seen how well he will do at the next level.

[IamInuit]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

A little of both, but besides Ponce what 'top' fighter has Broner faced or beaten? Broner may be really good, the thing is he hasn't proved it yet. If he blitzes though DeMarco, his fans can start saying he's all that, right now he's just a great prospect. Keep in mind, Broner's only claim to fame is winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against mediocre opponents. Let's keep it fucking real.

Its quite clear that you do not like the man but I'd like to know how his fans are not being real? People make far to big a deal out of the Ponce fight. That happens and it was Broners 20th fight. Much to do about nothing. Anyone who has watched the sport in any kind of a serious way can see that this kid has enormous talent. He's only 23 and only has 24 fights. Floyd fought a battle warn Hernandez (rip) in his 18th fight followed by a weird stop against Manfredy and then a selection of worn out vets and then fighting Augustus in his 24th fight. All along being touted as special. Very similar competition background. Alvarez is drawing in on 50 fights and you barely hear a peep about his lack of comp. Yet he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Broner could be the next Floyd or maybe the next Ibeabuchi but I think he is going to frustrate the hell out of DeMarco and stop him.

Gosh Inuit, go figure, why would you think I don't like Broner bro.
I know you're a big fan of Broner, but from my perspective, beating a bunch of taxi drivers/tomato-cans, then winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against more mediocre opponents doesn't really prove much. DeMarco is Broner's first real test, if he looks good, then you Broner's boners might have something to start shouting about. Keep in mind, even if he gets by DeMarco, it remains to be seen how well he will do at the next level.

So just raise the bar on a con current level. You cannot on the one hand my friend pick him to lose to Demarco and then claim if he wins it's no big deal. Thats pretzel logic. Not sure why you concentrate so much on the resume and not what you see? Robinson has a worse resume in his first 25 fights.

[Mars_ax]

Canelo gets a lot of backlash for his opposition thus far. A lot of people think he's overrated b/c of it.

For the record, Broner will dominate Demarco. Early-mid round stoppage.

Current Odds are Broner -500.

It least Alvarez has been a champion for a while, and fought some upper level competition.

As for Broner dominating and knocking DeMarco out, I don't think so, but we shall see grasshopper.

[Spicoli]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

For me its as simple as the later mostly, meaning what DeMarco has proven what he is capable of rather than what Broner has shown he is not. That fight with Linares was no 'fluke'. People have rose colored glasses on for a guy who has been over 8 rounds once...once! I know DeMarco has run much deeper in career and I think he is being written off as some run of the mill also ran. He is as methodical and thinking a fighter as they come. He is a quality fighter that has made solid improvement. He doesn't flatten guys, he cuts them up and beats them up, and he has been there and done that!

[Mars_ax]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

A little of both, but besides Ponce what 'top' fighter has Broner faced or beaten? Broner may be really good, the thing is he hasn't proved it yet. If he blitzes though DeMarco, his fans can start saying he's all that, right now he's just a great prospect. Keep in mind, Broner's only claim to fame is winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against mediocre opponents. Let's keep it fucking real.

Its quite clear that you do not like the man but I'd like to know how his fans are not being real? People make far to big a deal out of the Ponce fight. That happens and it was Broners 20th fight. Much to do about nothing. Anyone who has watched the sport in any kind of a serious way can see that this kid has enormous talent. He's only 23 and only has 24 fights. Floyd fought a battle warn Hernandez (rip) in his 18th fight followed by a weird stop against Manfredy and then a selection of worn out vets and then fighting Augustus in his 24th fight. All along being touted as special. Very similar competition background. Alvarez is drawing in on 50 fights and you barely hear a peep about his lack of comp. Yet he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Broner could be the next Floyd or maybe the next Ibeabuchi but I think he is going to frustrate the hell out of DeMarco and stop him.

Gosh Inuit, go figure, why would you think I don't like Broner bro.
I know you're a big fan of Broner, but from my perspective, beating a bunch of taxi drivers/tomato-cans, then winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against more mediocre opponents doesn't really prove much. DeMarco is Broner's first real test, if he looks good, then you Broner's boners might have something to start shouting about. Keep in mind, even if he gets by DeMarco, it remains to be seen how well he will do at the next level.

So just raise the bar on a con current level. You cannot on the one hand my friend pick him to lose to Demarco and then claim if he wins it's no big deal. Thats pretzel logic. Not sure why you concentrate so much on the resume and not what you see? Robinson has a worse resume in his first 25 fights.

Not exactly, if Broner wins convincingly, I say great start.
BTW, Robinson won his first 40 professional fights before losing to Jake LaMotta.

[Spicoli]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

A little of both, but besides Ponce what 'top' fighter has Broner faced or beaten? Broner may be really good, the thing is he hasn't proved it yet. If he blitzes though DeMarco, his fans can start saying he's all that, right now he's just a great prospect. Keep in mind, Broner's only claim to fame is winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against mediocre opponents. Let's keep it fucking real.

Its quite clear that you do not like the man but I'd like to know how his fans are not being real? People make far to big a deal out of the Ponce fight. That happens and it was Broners 20th fight. Much to do about nothing. Anyone who has watched the sport in any kind of a serious way can see that this kid has enormous talent. He's only 23 and only has 24 fights. Floyd fought a battle warn Hernandez (rip) in his 18th fight followed by a weird stop against Manfredy and then a selection of worn out vets and then fighting Augustus in his 24th fight. All along being touted as special. Very similar competition background. Alvarez is drawing in on 50 fights and you barely hear a peep about his lack of comp. Yet he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Broner could be the next Floyd or maybe the next Ibeabuchi but I think he is going to frustrate the hell out of DeMarco and stop him.

Brother, this puts me in a tough spot I am the very last man on Gods green Earth to 'defend' a Mayweather but I don't think Broner can hold a candle to what he faced by his 24th match. Hernandez wasn't battle worn but more caught in the crossroads. He and even the bipolar career-uncanny ability of Augustus alone blows what Broner has faced yet out of the water. More importantly Mayweather actually trained his ass off and defended early without telling fans he never tried to make weight and it wasn't important. Broner ain't Mayweather, I used to wear a towel around my neck and jump off the stairs like Broner as a lil kid but that didn't make me Superman.

[IamInuit]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

For me its as simple as the later mostly, meaning what DeMarco has proven what he is capable of rather than what Broner has shown he is not. Again this is his 25th fight.

That fight with Linares was no 'fluke'. And I suppose Vaiero was? Talk about there to be hit. Valero could not box his way out of a wet paper bag.

People have rose colored glasses on for a guy who has been over 8 rounds once...once!

So? Tyson never went past 5 or 6 in his first 20? Not sure what this rose coloured thing is all about.


I know DeMarco has run much deeper in career and I think he is being written off as some run of the mill also ran.

I have not done that.

He is as methodical and thinking a fighter as they come.

So is Broner. His extraordinary defense combined with jaw shattering counter punching will end this fight.

He is a quality fighter that has made solid improvement. He doesn't flatten guys, he cuts them up and beats them up, and he has been there and done that!

Both are quality fighters.

Peace amigo and we shall see. I may be served a healthy serving of crow. Ravens this far north and about 10 times the size of a crow. Lay it on my friend should my prediction take a turn for the worse.

[armin]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

A little of both, but besides Ponce what 'top' fighter has Broner faced or beaten? Broner may be really good, the thing is he hasn't proved it yet. If he blitzes though DeMarco, his fans can start saying he's all that, right now he's just a great prospect. Keep in mind, Broner's only claim to fame is winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against mediocre opponents. Let's keep it fucking real.

Its quite clear that you do not like the man but I'd like to know how his fans are not being real? People make far to big a deal out of the Ponce fight. That happens and it was Broners 20th fight. Much to do about nothing. Anyone who has watched the sport in any kind of a serious way can see that this kid has enormous talent. He's only 23 and only has 24 fights. Floyd fought a battle warn Hernandez (rip) in his 18th fight followed by a weird stop against Manfredy and then a selection of worn out vets and then fighting Augustus in his 24th fight. All along being touted as special. Very similar competition background. Alvarez is drawing in on 50 fights and you barely hear a peep about his lack of comp. Yet he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Broner could be the next Floyd or maybe the next Ibeabuchi but I think he is going to frustrate the hell out of DeMarco and stop him.

Granted it was his 20th fight he still looked ordinary against him, the same pdl who got blasted to hell by jml in his 20th or so fight, and then shortly after by yuriokis in his 20th or so as well. He might turn out to be a dam good fighter but for my liking its to much dam hype to early from all the evidence that's there.

[zhubin]

A quick question for those who believe DeMarco is a live underdog or perhaps a clear winner, do you base this assumption based on the Ponce De Leon fight "win" by Broner or the Linares victory by DeMarco?

A little of both, but besides Ponce what 'top' fighter has Broner faced or beaten? Broner may be really good, the thing is he hasn't proved it yet. If he blitzes though DeMarco, his fans can start saying he's all that, right now he's just a great prospect. Keep in mind, Broner's only claim to fame is winning the vacant WBO super featherweight title and defending it twice against mediocre opponents. Let's keep it fucking real.

Its quite clear that you do not like the man but I'd like to know how his fans are not being real? People make far to big a deal out of the Ponce fight. That happens and it was Broners 20th fight. Much to do about nothing. Anyone who has watched the sport in any kind of a serious way can see that this kid has enormous talent. He's only 23 and only has 24 fights. Floyd fought a battle warn Hernandez (rip) in his 18th fight followed by a weird stop against Manfredy and then a selection of worn out vets and then fighting Augustus in his 24th fight. All along being touted as special. Very similar competition background. Alvarez is drawing in on 50 fights and you barely hear a peep about his lack of comp. Yet he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Broner could be the next Floyd or maybe the next Ibeabuchi but I think he is going to frustrate the hell out of DeMarco and stop him.

Broner has fought no one on the level of Hernandez this early in his career. I don't question Broner's talent one bit...but the Floyd comparisons the media is so desperately trying to make, are complete bs...even when comparing them at the early stages of their respective careers. Floyd was a MUCH better defensive fighter early in his career than Broner. I understand...the media is always looking for the next "big thing"...but this kid doesn't have the same pedigree or skill level that Floyd possessed early on. That doesn't mean Broner does not have the POTENTIAL to be a great fighter...but his competition so far has proved nothing. You are right IamInuit...he is talented...but "special" he is not yet.

As far as the Demarco fight...Broner SHOULD easily win considering his superior skill and athleticism. But Demarco is a southpaw with power and heart..and while i think he will lose...he is going to make things interesting.