Seth Mitchell vs. Johnathan Banks

[TitoFan]

Does Seth Mitchell remind anyone else of Derrick Jefferson or Clifford Etienne ?

I think he may go a bit further than those two, but not by a whole lot. Picked up the sport really late and proved to be a bit chinny against Chazz Witherspoon.

Also on that "2 days in the life of a fighter" business on HBO, Mitchell's manager admitted that Seth isn't passionate about boxing, but sees it as a means to an end for supporting his family.

Seth seems a nice guy, aggressive, athletic and getting better so best of luck to him, but I honestly do not see him ever troubling a Klitschko.

I like to watch Seth fight and root for him. But that is a damning statement, considering this is a sport that requires passion in order to be able to overcome the adversities that will always surface at one time or another.

Yes, it is an incriminating statement for sure. There are cases of guys who didn't love boxing really thriving though, like Ken Norton. It was often said that he never loved boxing, but he had a hall of fame career.

There are exceptions to the rule, but generally if you don't love boxing, then you are going to get hurt sooner or later and call it quits.

I always disliked Norton's style of fighting. He was so-o-o awkward. But he did have his day in the sun, particularly in his first fight with Ali in 1973. I like watching Seth fight, though. And I root for him to succeed. But yeah... if he's not passionate about boxing, it might catch up to him sooner or later.

I say lets put all our eggs in one basket and support Seth to be the saviour of the US heavyweight division.

Count me in. Especially since Chris "Crybaby" Arreola hasn't quite been up to the task.

Hahahaha you're a moron, Arroela smashes both of these guys. Banks would last longer but he wouldnt go 12 with a focused Arreola.

Why do you feel the need to preface Arreola with the word "focused".
Must know something I don't.




Seriously, I could've bet money you'd crawl out from under your rock to stick up for your local fighter. As predictable as you are stupid. Were you upset when Arreola was bawling like a baby in the ring after losing to Klitschko? I mean... that WAS kind of embarassing.

[Onix]

Does Seth Mitchell remind anyone else of Derrick Jefferson or Clifford Etienne ?

I think he may go a bit further than those two, but not by a whole lot. Picked up the sport really late and proved to be a bit chinny against Chazz Witherspoon.

Also on that "2 days in the life of a fighter" business on HBO, Mitchell's manager admitted that Seth isn't passionate about boxing, but sees it as a means to an end for supporting his family.

Seth seems a nice guy, aggressive, athletic and getting better so best of luck to him, but I honestly do not see him ever troubling a Klitschko.

I like to watch Seth fight and root for him. But that is a damning statement, considering this is a sport that requires passion in order to be able to overcome the adversities that will always surface at one time or another.

Yes, it is an incriminating statement for sure. There are cases of guys who didn't love boxing really thriving though, like Ken Norton. It was often said that he never loved boxing, but he had a hall of fame career.

There are exceptions to the rule, but generally if you don't love boxing, then you are going to get hurt sooner or later and call it quits.

I always disliked Norton's style of fighting. He was so-o-o awkward. But he did have his day in the sun, particularly in his first fight with Ali in 1973. I like watching Seth fight, though. And I root for him to succeed. But yeah... if he's not passionate about boxing, it might catch up to him sooner or later.

I say lets put all our eggs in one basket and support Seth to be the saviour of the US heavyweight division.

Count me in. Especially since Chris "Crybaby" Arreola hasn't quite been up to the task.

Hahahaha you're a moron, Arroela smashes both of these guys. Banks would last longer but he wouldnt go 12 with a focused Arreola.

Why do you feel the need to preface Arreola with the word "focused".
Must know something I don't.




Seriously, I could've bet money you'd crawl out from under your rock to stick up for your local fighter. As predictable as you are stupid. Were you upset when Arreola was bawling like a baby in the ring after losing to Klitschko? I mean... that WAS kind of embarassing.

Not really, Im not particularly a Arroela fan but I do think he blows away the two heavyweights that fought on Saturday. Do you give either of those two an honest shot at beating Arreola?

[TitoFan]

Does Seth Mitchell remind anyone else of Derrick Jefferson or Clifford Etienne ?

I think he may go a bit further than those two, but not by a whole lot. Picked up the sport really late and proved to be a bit chinny against Chazz Witherspoon.

Also on that "2 days in the life of a fighter" business on HBO, Mitchell's manager admitted that Seth isn't passionate about boxing, but sees it as a means to an end for supporting his family.

Seth seems a nice guy, aggressive, athletic and getting better so best of luck to him, but I honestly do not see him ever troubling a Klitschko.

I like to watch Seth fight and root for him. But that is a damning statement, considering this is a sport that requires passion in order to be able to overcome the adversities that will always surface at one time or another.

Yes, it is an incriminating statement for sure. There are cases of guys who didn't love boxing really thriving though, like Ken Norton. It was often said that he never loved boxing, but he had a hall of fame career.

There are exceptions to the rule, but generally if you don't love boxing, then you are going to get hurt sooner or later and call it quits.

I always disliked Norton's style of fighting. He was so-o-o awkward. But he did have his day in the sun, particularly in his first fight with Ali in 1973. I like watching Seth fight, though. And I root for him to succeed. But yeah... if he's not passionate about boxing, it might catch up to him sooner or later.

I say lets put all our eggs in one basket and support Seth to be the saviour of the US heavyweight division.

Count me in. Especially since Chris "Crybaby" Arreola hasn't quite been up to the task.

Hahahaha you're a moron, Arroela smashes both of these guys. Banks would last longer but he wouldnt go 12 with a focused Arreola.

Why do you feel the need to preface Arreola with the word "focused".
Must know something I don't.




Seriously, I could've bet money you'd crawl out from under your rock to stick up for your local fighter. As predictable as you are stupid. Were you upset when Arreola was bawling like a baby in the ring after losing to Klitschko? I mean... that WAS kind of embarassing.

Not really, Im not particularly a Arroela fan but I do think he blows away the two heavyweights that fought on Saturday. Do you give either of those two an honest shot at beating Arreola?

Arreola's tough and can bang. But so can Seth. Arreola's got the experience edge, if you will. But I personally don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'd beat Mitchell. I will tell you one thing. I expected a bit more from Arreola when he fought Vitali. He was being brought up to be the "next great hope" and he's just slinked back into the shadows of the Klitschkos. He's peaked, while someone like Mitchell is still on the rise. It would be interesting.

[Spicoli]

That was a nice little set trap by Banks, rode off the ropes with a straight right and it caved in on Mitchell.

Rewatching Mitchells last 3 and I think we have seen where he is going already. Fun style but those fifteen minutes are near.

Right, unfortunately. Where does Mitchell go from here? Where does Banks go from here?

Banks versus Arreola would be a good undercard fight on HBO. Banks against Helenius or Fury would also be good. Mitchell should take a rebound fight, but against whom?

I'm honestly stumped on what Banks would do. The irony of having his two biggest oppurtunities come within a month has to be tons to swallow. To train in the footsteps of a legend and the heavyweight Champion and the top flight exposure of demolishing a would be challenger and now enter the division picture. Surely he cannot do both He may have one of the biggest decisions in a lifetime to make here. If he did go I'd avoid Arreola though he does have the high exposure stateside. Don't think he has the firepower to hold Chris off. Maybe a pre Wlad go with Povetkin?

Mitchell is going to really tread lightly to get back into it. I like the guy but that was a bad bad exposure. He makes alot of mistakes and unlike a free swinger like an Arreola for example does not have the durability and thickness to stay in. He leans over, head out and looops hooks sometimes missing badly. Can dig the body nice but no jab, a sucker for rights and was for all intents and purposes caved in off one right hand from Banks off the ropes and it was all down hill. He doesn't tie up when hurt...he tackles to the waist like he was back on the field. I dunno man. Dude has his work cut out for him big time.

[El Kabong]

Arreola's tough and can bang. But so can Seth. Arreola's got the experience edge, if you will. But I personally don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'd beat Mitchell. I will tell you one thing. I expected a bit more from Arreola when he fought Vitali. He was being brought up to be the "next great hope" and he's just slinked back into the shadows of the Klitschkos. He's peaked, while someone like Mitchell is still on the rise. It would be interesting.

Seth Mitchell just got hammered out in 2 rounds by a former cruiserweight. I'm not going to tell you he's a crap fighter but he ain't "on the rise" anymore. If any American fighter can beat Arreola I say it's probably still Eddie Chambers because the guy uses defense properly and never plans on getting a KO. Banks is better than we thought, Mitchell is not who we thought he was and at his age it's going to be hard to rebound from that loss. Arreola is a seasoned pro and guys like Wilder and Hanks aren't ready for him yet...perhaps Franklin Lawrence would have an outside shot at him but hell you never know.

I still say Banks vs Adamek II is a GREAT fight to make right now

[Rantcatrat]

Arreola's tough and can bang. But so can Seth. Arreola's got the experience edge, if you will. But I personally don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'd beat Mitchell. I will tell you one thing. I expected a bit more from Arreola when he fought Vitali. He was being brought up to be the "next great hope" and he's just slinked back into the shadows of the Klitschkos. He's peaked, while someone like Mitchell is still on the rise. It would be interesting.

Seth Mitchell just got hammered out in 2 rounds by a former cruiserweight. I'm not going to tell you he's a crap fighter but he ain't "on the rise" anymore. If any American fighter can beat Arreola I say it's probably still Eddie Chambers because the guy uses defense properly and never plans on getting a KO. Banks is better than we thought, Mitchell is not who we thought he was and at his age it's going to be hard to rebound from that loss. Arreola is a seasoned pro and guys like Wilder and Hanks aren't ready for him yet...perhaps Franklin Lawrence would have an outside shot at him but hell you never know.

I still say Banks vs Adamek II is a GREAT fight to make right now

Bermaine Stiverne is pretty seasoned too. The fight between Stiverne and Arreola is intriguing. If Arreola beats him, I would like to see him face Helenius, Fury, or Price.

[El Kabong]

Bermaine Stiverne is pretty seasoned too. The fight between Stiverne and Arreola is intriguing. If Arreola beats him, I would like to see him face Helenius, Fury, or Price.

Oh yeah, that's a great matchup. On paper it could really be a barn burner, fight of the year candidate, but given the fact that it's 2 heavyweights and 2 heavyweights who can be heavy or not box well on occasion I'm trying not to over sell it but it SHOULD be a very solid matchup and one that I want to see.

[TitoFan]

Arreola's tough and can bang. But so can Seth. Arreola's got the experience edge, if you will. But I personally don't think it's a foregone conclusion that he'd beat Mitchell. I will tell you one thing. I expected a bit more from Arreola when he fought Vitali. He was being brought up to be the "next great hope" and he's just slinked back into the shadows of the Klitschkos. He's peaked, while someone like Mitchell is still on the rise. It would be interesting.

Seth Mitchell just got hammered out in 2 rounds by a former cruiserweight. I'm not going to tell you he's a crap fighter but he ain't "on the rise" anymore. If any American fighter can beat Arreola I say it's probably still Eddie Chambers because the guy uses defense properly and never plans on getting a KO. Banks is better than we thought, Mitchell is not who we thought he was and at his age it's going to be hard to rebound from that loss. Arreola is a seasoned pro and guys like Wilder and Hanks aren't ready for him yet...perhaps Franklin Lawrence would have an outside shot at him but hell you never know.

I still say Banks vs Adamek II is a GREAT fight to make right now

My bad. Admittedly don't keep up with the HW's like I used to, you know.... back when it was a good division.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

LOL. Master u nob. Asif u thought mitchell would give K2 a fight!! Said it for years mitchell was a jokeass hypejob. 25-0 and had not fought anyone! Pathetic. Fuckoff back to YT and jackoff to a Ken norton HL . Take rest of em wiv ya too....

[El Kabong]

My bad. Admittedly don't keep up with the HW's like I used to, you know.... back when it was a good division.

Fine then don't watch it. Some people like the heavyweight division some people don't but what I can't stand is your endless bitching about it which you being the dumb little bastard you are will no doubt take pride in but you go right ahead flaunt your stupidity nothing has stopped you so far.

[Beanz]

LOL. Master u nob. Asif u thought mitchell would give K2 a fight!! Said it for years mitchell was a jokeass hypejob. 25-0 and had not fought anyone! Pathetic. Fuckoff back to YT and jackoff to a Ken norton HL . Take rest of em wiv ya too....

Too be honest if you are not Mark TKO and you can still fall out with Master you must be a bit of a knob.

[Master]

LOL. Master u nob. Asif u thought mitchell would give K2 a fight!! Said it for years mitchell was a jokeass hypejob. 25-0 and had not fought anyone! Pathetic. Fuckoff back to YT and jackoff to a Ken norton HL . Take rest of em wiv ya too....

[TitoFan]

My bad. Admittedly don't keep up with the HW's like I used to, you know.... back when it was a good division.

Fine then don't watch it. Some people like the heavyweight division some people don't but what I can't stand is your endless bitching about it which you being the dumb little bastard you are will no doubt take pride in but you go right ahead flaunt your stupidity nothing has stopped you so far.

What bug suddenly crawled up YOUR ass, dickhead? I don't like the HW division today, so I'm a "dumb little bastard"? Since when are we all supposed to like the HW division and bow at the Klitschko statue like you do? Do me a favor and shove your condescending personality right up your ass. You've proven your extremist personality at every turn so far, so no need to pour gasoline on the fire. Others might tiptoe around you because of your abrasiveness. Not me.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I bet if K2 were two black ghetto americans the ppl who dumb down the division would be all over the division! It's a cliche but it's also true.

Vent your frutrations on Mitchell not K2. LOL. It's not K2's fault that ppl were actually dumb enough to believe that skin pigmentation was an indicator of the talent that lay beneath!

Borders open (approximately in the year 2000) and Eastern-Europeans enter the arena.

Within a decade Americans lose all their titles to Eastern-Europeans. The americans will never be as dominant on such a consistant basis ever again because they actually have worldwide opposition these days. Just get used to them and stop hating because u sound more pathetic as each year passes.

[Rantcatrat]

I bet if K2 were two black ghetto americans the ppl who dumb down the division would be all over the division! It's a cliche but it's also true.

Vent your frutrations on Mitchell not K2. LOL. It's not K2's fault that ppl were actually dumb enough to believe that skin pigmentation was an indicator of the talent that lay beneath!

Borders open (approximately in the year 2000) and Eastern-Europeans enter the arena.

Within a decade Americans lose all their titles to Eastern-Europeans. The americans will never be as dominant on such a consistant basis ever again because they actually have worldwide opposition these days. Just get used to them and stop hating because u sound more pathetic as each year passes.

Be fair: it's a mixture of the gates opening to Eastern Europe and the fact that big American athletes play football or basketball. It's not like the Eastern Europeans are dominating lower weight classes. Are there more top Eastern Europeans in lower weight classes than there used to be? Sure. However, Americans still have a solid presence.