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    Default Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight

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    Fury is the future even if he is not the most articulate of boxers. Get use to it because he will be around a long time.
    Fury cant punch and has been floored by a non punching novice , please explain how he is the future ?

    Well, yesterday was the past. Fury hasn't lost yet, and Master is clearly on glue. Clear things up?
    Fury, Price, Charr, Wach, etc, are all well protected HW's.

    There's a reason they all had/have perfect records and that's simply because they hadn't/haven't fought a Klitschko.

    Love the Klitschko's or hate them for there fight selections now, but they got to where they are by fighting the best that was there.

    Fury will crumble under the first decent right hand his pikey chin receives.

    Price will likey wilt too, but his defences seem much better than Fury so maybe, just maybe, he can make us proud.
    Price ain't protected, he has only had 15 fights and isn't World Level yet, to expect any fighter to get into the ring with the likes of Wlad who is the best HW in the business would be unfair and to label it as that is silly!
    I'm not saying that by not fighting a Klitschko he's protected, I'm saying that he's protected by fighting below par fighters.

    Sam Sexton isn't a threat and never looked likely to ever be one. Audely Harrison?? Need I say more?

    Oh but I shall! Matt Skelton? Forty fucking five! Next fight? Tony Thompson 41! Althought Thompson should be a much harder test, so good to see progression.

    Now I actually love Price. I think he's got talent, but the same thing is happening to him that happened to James DeGale, they're fighting opponents below there level.
    Hardly fair on Price. Thompson is borderline top ten heavy. Not many fighters step up to that level after 15 fights. It's not Price's fault that the domestic scene is awful. I respect him for wanting a Lonsdale belt outright, even if he fights dross like Sexton and Skelton.
    Like I said mate, Thompson will be a harder fight. I'm not trying to be harsh on price, I like him, I'm just saying that he's been protected, maybe unintentionally because of the lack of uk hw talent.

    After Thompson he needs a stern test, Helenius maybe.
    TBF Price is making a significant step up in quality fighting Thompson, he has fought for the World Title against Klit in the last 12 months, where as Price has been learning his trade domestically....fighting fighters with varying styles and abilities are all part of a fighters learning curve and that's not protection for me vendetto!
    Ok I agree, I've said about 3 times that I believe it's a big step for him.

    Also I mentioned that it's unintentional protection, due to the lack of talent we actually have in the UK.

    We are crying out for a good fighter to challenge for a world title.

    Cleverly, Froch and Burns keeping us with a reputation right now xD
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    Default Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight

    I find it amusing the hate this lop dick Fury receives and being called a "Pikey" which I guess is because he is a gypsy.

    Honestly, right now as much as a cock as David Haye is, I'm confident he would KO Fury or Price.

    I really thought Chisora was the best Brit hw after his dominant win over Helenius and very courageous fight against Vitali where he reallly pushed him and I thought made a close fight of it.

    I was wrong.

    Haye is a cut above the rest in the U.K.with his natural speed, talent and power.

    But, he's def ducking a rematch with Audley...
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    Default Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight

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    I find it amusing the hate this lop dick Fury receives and being called a "Pikey" which I guess is because he is a gypsy.

    Honestly, right now as much as a cock as David Haye is, I'm confident he would KO Fury or Price.

    I really thought Chisora was the best Brit hw after his dominant win over Helenius and very courageous fight against Vitali where he reallly pushed him and I thought made a close fight of it.

    I was wrong.

    Haye is a cut above the rest in the U.K.with his natural speed, talent and power.

    But, he's def ducking a rematch with Audley...
    I am not so sure Haye can beat Fury and Price they are too dangerous, big and hungry for him.
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    Default Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight

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    I find it amusing the hate this lop dick Fury receives and being called a "Pikey" which I guess is because he is a gypsy.

    Honestly, right now as much as a cock as David Haye is, I'm confident he would KO Fury or Price.

    I really thought Chisora was the best Brit hw after his dominant win over Helenius and very courageous fight against Vitali where he reallly pushed him and I thought made a close fight of it.

    I was wrong.

    Haye is a cut above the rest in the U.K.with his natural speed, talent and power.

    But, he's def ducking a rematch with Audley...
    I am not so sure Haye can beat Fury and Price they are too dangerous, big and hungry for him.
    With all due respect, but are you serious mate?

    Fury is far too slow for Haye, far far too slow and Haye would dance around him.

    Price has a sound amateur background with the medal and stuff but I think Haye has the experience and power to stop him.
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    I am not so sure Haye can beat Fury and Price they are too dangerous, big and hungry for him.
    C'mon Master, you cannot be serious. Do people not realise how good a fighter Haye is? He is the 3rd best Heavyweight in the world. Seriously, outside of the Klitschko's, I don't see anyone beating him. Not Povetkin, not Huck, not Adamek or Cunningham, and certainly not Fury and Price. There is a massive difference between looking decent against lower level opposition and fighting someone with the skill to fight back.

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    Default Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight

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    I am not so sure Haye can beat Fury and Price they are too dangerous, big and hungry for him.
    C'mon Master, you cannot be serious. Do people not realise how good a fighter Haye is? He is the 3rd best Heavyweight in the world. Seriously, outside of the Klitschko's, I don't see anyone beating him. Not Povetkin, not Huck, not Adamek or Cunningham, and certainly not Fury and Price. There is a massive difference between looking decent against lower level opposition and fighting someone with the skill to fight back.
    2nd best! No way Vitali can live with his pace.

    It was unfortunate against Wlad because I believe Haye could still beat him, he was just afr too cautious.
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    I am not so sure Haye can beat Fury and Price they are too dangerous, big and hungry for him.
    C'mon Master, you cannot be serious. Do people not realise how good a fighter Haye is? He is the 3rd best Heavyweight in the world. Seriously, outside of the Klitschko's, I don't see anyone beating him. Not Povetkin, not Huck, not Adamek or Cunningham, and certainly not Fury and Price. There is a massive difference between looking decent against lower level opposition and fighting someone with the skill to fight back.
    2nd best! No way Vitali can live with his pace.

    It was unfortunate against Wlad because I believe Haye could still beat him, he was just afr too cautious.
    OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
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    I am not so sure Haye can beat Fury and Price they are too dangerous, big and hungry for him.
    C'mon Master, you cannot be serious. Do people not realise how good a fighter Haye is? He is the 3rd best Heavyweight in the world. Seriously, outside of the Klitschko's, I don't see anyone beating him. Not Povetkin, not Huck, not Adamek or Cunningham, and certainly not Fury and Price. There is a massive difference between looking decent against lower level opposition and fighting someone with the skill to fight back.
    2nd best! No way Vitali can live with his pace.

    It was unfortunate against Wlad because I believe Haye could still beat him, he was just afr too cautious.
    OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
    You're just being general there mate.
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    Default Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight

    Why does Haye not fight regularly then? He stands a better chance being active but chooses to go on celebrity shows and semi retirement instead.
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    Default Re: Fury: UK fans don't understand boxing, Johnson a top 5 Heavyweight

    He is still a punk kid with no real men sitting him down and telling him to shut his pie hole.

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    Why does Haye not fight regularly then? He stands a better chance being active but chooses to go on celebrity shows and semi retirement instead.
    I honestly believe money and fame, more fame than money though. He doesn't seem to be interested in boxing. If he fights people that aren't that big he doesn't get as much notice fame wise or money as he would if he fought V Klitschko. Which is the biggest and most paying fight for him.

    Just my theory.
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    OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
    People slag Haye because he's mouthy and he spends more time talking than he does in the ring. But if you look at what he has achieved when he has fought, it is hard not to be impressed. As a fight he has all the tools and keeps himself in peak physical condition. His speed and power are superb for a Heavyweight and I honestly can't see anyone outside the Klitschko's beating him. The reason he doesn't fight is more to do with money than anything. Haye is all about the risk-reward. Mayweather does the exact same thing.

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    OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
    People slag Haye because he's mouthy and he spends more time talking than he does in the ring. But if you look at what he has achieved when he has fought, it is hard not to be impressed. As a fight he has all the tools and keeps himself in peak physical condition. His speed and power are superb for a Heavyweight and I honestly can't see anyone outside the Klitschko's beating him. The reason he doesn't fight is more to do with money than anything. Haye is all about the risk-reward. Mayweather does the exact same thing.
    Haye was a very good cruiserweight and at heavyweight he manoeuvred himself well to get a title. Haye is nothing like Floyd at this weight division. Haye does not fight because he knows he will get knocked out by a heavyweight.
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    OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
    People slag Haye because he's mouthy and he spends more time talking than he does in the ring. But if you look at what he has achieved when he has fought, it is hard not to be impressed. As a fight he has all the tools and keeps himself in peak physical condition. His speed and power are superb for a Heavyweight and I honestly can't see anyone outside the Klitschko's beating him. The reason he doesn't fight is more to do with money than anything. Haye is all about the risk-reward. Mayweather does the exact same thing.
    Haye was a very good cruiserweight and at heavyweight he manoeuvred himself well to get a title. Haye is nothing like Floyd at this weight division. Haye does not fight because he knows he will get knocked out by a heavyweight.
    He fought the best Heavyweight in the world and din't get knocked out. No Heavyweight he has fought has knocked him out so I fail to see your logic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    OK maybe I went over the top but you are over exaggerating how good Haye is, There is a reason why he does not fight often. That is because Haye is not a confident heavyweight, he knows he is one punch away from getting KOed.
    People slag Haye because he's mouthy and he spends more time talking than he does in the ring. But if you look at what he has achieved when he has fought, it is hard not to be impressed. As a fight he has all the tools and keeps himself in peak physical condition. His speed and power are superb for a Heavyweight and I honestly can't see anyone outside the Klitschko's beating him. The reason he doesn't fight is more to do with money than anything. Haye is all about the risk-reward. Mayweather does the exact same thing.
    Haye was a very good cruiserweight and at heavyweight he manoeuvred himself well to get a title. Haye is nothing like Floyd at this weight division. Haye does not fight because he knows he will get knocked out by a heavyweight.
    Now I haven't seen all of your 17,000 posts,

    but your last like 5 have been total uncensored bullshit.
    Last edited by Vendettos; 12-30-2012 at 09:10 PM.
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