James Toney: I would have destroyed Joe Calzaghe..... and talks about Lennox

[Spicoli]

One of the biggest blowhards in boxing history and I have never been able to figure out why some think this guy was special, let alone a legend or atg.

Toney today is a fat slob who needs to be a memory, but you can easily ass rape any guys career. I mean it took 5 seperate weight divisions there to bat against him. How the ko of Nunn can be a negative is beyond logic. He was a 20-1 underdog behind and the only reason Nunn fell asleep was he began sponging right hands in his after thought southpaw style. He got wrecked in one of the better kos of the year. Zero fluke about that win. Same with McCallum 1 as far as a chess match on paper turned brawl that Toney was pulling away with at the end. Toney was a fighting champion and kept busy like few at the time. The Griffin 1 fight was an out and out rob job. Toney had a fat mouth before an era of clowns who have proven far less but expect to be thought of the same ability, a great self promoter and while he could be faulted with timing out rounds in the last minute no one else sat in the pocket and rolled off 6' counters at his best then. He beat Peter in the 1st...the Jirov demolition was a very solid disection of a respected champ and one of the better body punchers going in the sport...Toney got fat in the brain and slack and unlike many I don't blame "being blown up" weight wise vs Jones jr, Jones did a great job of out mind fucking Toney like no other and James got got before the bell rang, then he got outclassed and lost. I respect Toney enough to say I dislike him now and hope he goes away. That sludge and butter ball who is hanging onto shawdows is not to be mistaken for a guy who was at one time a serious force and * may lightning strike* a bit of a throw back, a fighting champion.

***Beyond logic? Nunn was winning easily. Toney was getting raped. Again I watched the mans career and stand by what I said. McCallum was a few fights away from retirement . Jirov is the best fight on Toneys bed post. I dont hate the guy but he's nowhere near the claims. He just never really accomplished much.*** Not Spicoli btw [/QUOTE]Pretty sure you just misquoted me there bud, at least in the box there? But Nunn winning...yes...easily though? Guess that depends on your end result eh. I watched his career too and not on youtube. McCallum still had plenty given his pedigree facing a guy who had just 'got lucky' wouldn't you say? Leap frogged division for a title belt after...if anything Jones got the used up version.

[SugarBoxing]

Toney in HW was real fun to watch how he made Piter and Ruiz and even Holy look like total crap

[FinitoElDinamita]

Toney in HW was real fun to watch how he made Piter and Ruiz and even Holy look like total crap

What's amazing is the fact that he was out of shape for Peter and Ruiz yet he still kicked ass.. He just relied on his skills and guile which makes him a natural born fighter.

[Violent Demise]

Lol this is to much.



Underachiever = a student who does not perform as well as expected or as well as the IQ indicates.
Or;
To perform worse or achieve less success than expected.

Overrated= a calculation that results in an estimate that is too high.
Or;
To overestimate the merits of; rate too highly.

Now if we were to combine the two words Overrated/Underachiever and were in search of a definition for it well that’s where you come in as an objective boxing critic.

Now I’ve said what I have to say in this thread concerning the topic and dealing with the local bad ass and if there is anyone out there who would actually like to discuss it in further detail then let me know through pm that you responded because I’m not coming back to this.

I can only take so much dip shit.

Throw any insult you want. Include as much unnecessary shit as you want. Duck the counter points. I don't care. All you proving is one can still be yellow at 94 years old. You said to prove you wrong with facts. Soon as I started you were gone. I asked you two legit questions (why leave out some of his key wins and why didn't you acknowledge his robbery losses) and corrected an inaccurate statement. Did you answered them? Of course not. And I never expected you too. It's easier to just grab your walker and leave the thread. Because you can't be proven wrong if you stick don't around to get proven wrong.