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    Default Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    If anyone that deserves to fight Mayweather, outside of a Manny rematch, it is Kell Brook.

    If Porter had not lost to Brook, Porter would have been a shoe in. But that did not happen.

    I don't see where Khan feels he deserves a shot over a Danny Garcia (a guy who knocked him spark out) or Lamont Peterson, the guy who beat him by a UD and a guy that was robbed in his fight with a guy that knocked Khan out in Garcia. I don't see, aside from name alone, how Khan feels he should get this fight CONSIDERING how he looked against Algieri.

    Khan should fight Manny, if anything, if it's a payday he wants. Manny may not get him $20 mil, but he can rake in about $10 with a huge Manny fight. Even more if they fight in England.

    Brook is the prime candidate for a Mayweather fight. No one else, in a fair and even an optical sense, makes sense.
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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    If anyone that deserves to fight Mayweather, outside of a Manny rematch, it is Kell Brook.

    If Porter had not lost to Brook, Porter would have been a shoe in. But that did not happen.

    I don't see where Khan feels he deserves a shot over a Danny Garcia (a guy who knocked him spark out) or Lamont Peterson, the guy who beat him by a UD and a guy that was robbed in his fight with a guy that knocked Khan out in Garcia. I don't see, aside from name alone, how Khan feels he should get this fight CONSIDERING how he looked against Algieri.

    Khan should fight Manny, if anything, if it's a payday he wants. Manny may not get him $20 mil, but he can rake in about $10 with a huge Manny fight. Even more if they fight in England.

    Brook is the prime candidate for a Mayweather fight. No one else, in a fair and even an optical sense, makes sense.
    I agree 100%!

    Special K would present a serious test for Money May.

    Khan is a waste of physical talent. No chin, no boxing IQ.

    Spesh K could upset Mayweather for sure.
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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    If anyone that deserves to fight Mayweather, outside of a Manny rematch, it is Kell Brook.

    If Porter had not lost to Brook, Porter would have been a shoe in. But that did not happen.

    I don't see where Khan feels he deserves a shot over a Danny Garcia (a guy who knocked him spark out) or Lamont Peterson, the guy who beat him by a UD and a guy that was robbed in his fight with a guy that knocked Khan out in Garcia. I don't see, aside from name alone, how Khan feels he should get this fight CONSIDERING how he looked against Algieri.

    Khan should fight Manny, if anything, if it's a payday he wants. Manny may not get him $20 mil, but he can rake in about $10 with a huge Manny fight. Even more if they fight in England.

    Brook is the prime candidate for a Mayweather fight. No one else, in a fair and even an optical sense, makes sense.
    I agree 100%!

    Special K would present a serious test for Money May.

    Khan is a waste of physical talent. No chin, no boxing IQ.

    Spesh K could upset Mayweather for sure.
    Khan, when you boil him all down, and probably why he is the most exciting guy aside from Manny in boxing today, is that Khan is only a bang and move kinda fighter. No boxing IQ indeed. That and a weak chin, lolololol..... wrong mix.
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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Floyd is never fighting Kell or Thurman in a million years - and I don't blame him.

    The sooner Floyd retires the better. The Floyd lottery ticket is just preventing great fights from happening.
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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Kell must have a shitty management team. They should have been making some serious noise for months by now. Aside from observant boxing fans, no one has even heard of this guy, yet he is arguably the most bonafide welterweight in the world. As good as he is, he won't generate any interest from casual fans. They'll look at him as "just another opponent" along the lines of Guerrero and Ortiz.

    They are doing virtually nothing to put his name out there.

    If it were me, I would have showed up at Floyd's post-fight interview right after his win over Pac, ala Shane Mosley. Imagine the stir that would have created!! Shane HUSTLED his way into a big payday and it worked.
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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Khans a bigger name than brook and will obviously generate more money. Brook and Thurman very well might beat Khan but they have absolutely no chance or beating floyd. Out the 3 of them Khan is the only 1 who could beat floyd IMO and I hope floyd picks the easy fight with brook or Thurman.

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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    Kell must have a shitty management team. They should have been making some serious noise for months by now. Aside from observant boxing fans, no one has even heard of this guy, yet he is arguably the most bonafide welterweight in the world. As good as he is, he won't generate any interest from casual fans. They'll look at him as "just another opponent" along the lines of Guerrero and Ortiz.

    They are doing virtually nothing to put his name out there.

    If it were me, I would have showed up at Floyd's post-fight interview right after his win over Pac, ala Shane Mosley. Imagine the stir that would have created!! Shane HUSTLED his way into a big payday and it worked.
    I think they're thinking they can get to the top without him. Honestly, fighting Floyd is a suicide fight. Floyd has been in with harder punchers, fast punchers and bigger fighters than Kell. Kell has a short reach and will have to chase Floyd around the ring and Floyd will just pick him off and win a UD. I like Kell, but he has nothing that will beat Mayweather. So why fight him, when you can make a lot of money fighting on Box Office in the UK and then probably get the much more winnable Pacquiao fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    Kell must have a shitty management team. They should have been making some serious noise for months by now. Aside from observant boxing fans, no one has even heard of this guy, yet he is arguably the most bonafide welterweight in the world. As good as he is, he won't generate any interest from casual fans. They'll look at him as "just another opponent" along the lines of Guerrero and Ortiz.

    They are doing virtually nothing to put his name out there.

    If it were me, I would have showed up at Floyd's post-fight interview right after his win over Pac, ala Shane Mosley. Imagine the stir that would have created!! Shane HUSTLED his way into a big payday and it worked.
    This is a narrative that was sold to the willing believers. But it simply isn't true. Floyd offered Shane the fight "keep running your mouth and I'll kick your ass before i kick your bosses ass" back in 2007. All witnesses say Shane promptly stopped talking because "he didn't want to interfere with Oscars fight". Fuck that, he backed away from a man, a boxer, challenging him when it was by far the biggest fight available to him. Before that Floyd offered him 6 million after he fought Vargas and Shane said that he had a vacation err a toothache and fought 1 month later for less than 2 million. Floyd has wanted Shane since his 2nd year as a pro. Truth is Shane got the fight when he did because he finally accepted it.
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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Floyd is never fighting Kell or Thurman in a million years - and I don't blame him.

    The sooner Floyd retires the better. The Floyd lottery ticket is just preventing great fights from happening.
    I have to agree with some of this.

    Floyd owns all types of brook or thurman but everyone seems to be waiting around for mayweather rather than making a name for themselves.

    Bradley is also still a major threat in the divison and he should be in that thurman, brook and khan circle.

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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    If anyone that deserves to fight Mayweather, outside of a Manny rematch, it is Kell Brook.

    If Porter had not lost to Brook, Porter would have been a shoe in. But that did not happen.

    I don't see where Khan feels he deserves a shot over a Danny Garcia (a guy who knocked him spark out) or Lamont Peterson, the guy who beat him by a UD and a guy that was robbed in his fight with a guy that knocked Khan out in Garcia. I don't see, aside from name alone, how Khan feels he should get this fight CONSIDERING how he looked against Algieri.

    Khan should fight Manny, if anything, if it's a payday he wants. Manny may not get him $20 mil, but he can rake in about $10 with a huge Manny fight. Even more if they fight in England.

    Brook is the prime candidate for a Mayweather fight. No one else, in a fair and even an optical sense, makes sense.
    Garcia did not knock Khan spark out. Khan was stopped.

    Khan was winning the fight hands down till then. Khan is better boxer than Garcia and how Garcia stil has an '0' on his record is beyond me. He's been very lucky. Garcia Vs Mayweather ? Please. Danny Garcia is so slow he makes snails feel respected. He'd have no chance.

    As for Peterson Vs Khan. That was one of the most disgracefuly ref-ed matches ever, what with Khan beind deducted two points and then afterwards, Peterson fessed up to using PED's.

    Brook ? I thought he was lucky to beat Porter. It was a close fight but in close fights like that, the decision normally goes to the champion.

    Put Brook in there with Maidana, see how he get's on

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    I totally disagree with this one. Khan's performance against Alexander was more impressive than Brook's over Porter. Brook - Porter was a very close fight. Khan totally dominated Alexander. And yes I'm aware that Porter beat Alexsnder.

    Ignoring both their best wins, Khan's level of opposition is far greater. I don't know how anyone can argue with that. Carson Jones, Jojo Dan and Frankie Gavin are his best wins. He still has work to do before be is more deserving than Khan.

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    I totally disagree with this one. Khan's performance against Alexander was more impressive than Brook's over Porter. Brook - Porter was a very close fight. Khan totally dominated Alexander. And yes I'm aware that Porter beat Alexsnder.

    Ignoring both their best wins, Khan's level of opposition is far greater. I don't know how anyone can argue with that. Carson Jones, Jojo Dan and Frankie Gavin are his best wins. He still has work to do before be is more deserving than Khan.
    I would not call Brook-Porter a "close fight", more like a hotly contested fight. Brook never lost control of that fight at any time. Porter was game, but Brook had him all the way and won the fight the only way he could have.

    Some times, close fights aren't really close. They may have good flashes of brilliance by both fighters, they may even have some moments when the eventual winner seems rocked and on the back foot. But when you weight it all out, it is more of a spirited contest than it was a close fight.

    For another example, Ortiz/Berto was a close fight. Ortiz won by a thin decision. Oscar/Mosely was a hotly contested fight, where Mosely was just a little more up than Oscar was even though some may say that Oscar deserved the win just as much as Mosely did. But, really and truly, Mosely had controlled the fight from start to finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    I totally disagree with this one. Khan's performance against Alexander was more impressive than Brook's over Porter. Brook - Porter was a very close fight. Khan totally dominated Alexander. And yes I'm aware that Porter beat Alexsnder.

    Ignoring both their best wins, Khan's level of opposition is far greater. I don't know how anyone can argue with that. Carson Jones, Jojo Dan and Frankie Gavin are his best wins. He still has work to do before be is more deserving than Khan.
    I would not call Brook-Porter a "close fight", more like a hotly contested fight. Brook never lost control of that fight at any time. Porter was game, but Brook had him all the way and won the fight the only way he could have.

    Some times, close fights aren't really close. They may have good flashes of brilliance by both fighters, they may even have some moments when the eventual winner seems rocked and on the back foot. But when you weight it all out, it is more of a spirited contest than it was a close fight.

    For another example, Ortiz/Berto was a close fight. Ortiz won by a thin decision. Oscar/Mosely was a hotly contested fight, where Mosely was just a little more up than Oscar was even though some may say that Oscar deserved the win just as much as Mosely did. But, really and truly, Mosely had controlled the fight from start to finish.
    Well, scoring is subjective really anyway but I was surprised Brook got the verdict when I watched it. Partly because Porter was the house fighter, but also because there wasn't much in the fight. It ebbed and flowed. I think the majority of the press row had Brook winning. I think it was something like 49-9 with two scoring it a draw. Porter only landed 4 less punches and threw a lot more so looked the busier fighter throughout.

    Regardless, I still think there was much more daylight between Khan and Alexander than there was between Brook and Porter. I don't think that can be argued. And despite what happened when Porter and Alexander fought, I do see them as being of similar standard - I think Porter's aggression was always going to allow him to outwork someone like Alexander.

    So when you also take into consideration the remainder of their respective opposition, Khan has fought much stronger opposition.

    That aside, I do think Brook beats Khan, but I also think Khan gives Mayweather more problems than Brook does. He won't come close to beating him, but his volume and speed will mean that Floyd had to work a little more than he likes to.

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    Default Re: Brook deserves a Mayweather fight over Khan!

    Brook-Porter wasn't really that close unless you was scoring for Porter lunging forward, smothering his own work and wildly hitting air all night whilst constantly getting smacked in the mouth. Jim Watt was doing my head in scoring for Porter.

    That win though trumps anything Khan has done at welter - although Khan's record is deeper overall, he's more "famous" and it would be nice for him to get the fight just so he shuts the fuck up about it.

    Porter would beat Khan (imo). He wouldn't be strong enough to keep him at bay
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