What's up with Keith "One Time" Thurman?

[Rantcatrat]

He's touted as the next big thing at 147 and he continues to face guys outside of the top ten. He hasn't faced a real top challenger in his entire career. It's almost inexplicable. Does his team know something that we don't know and that is why they match him easily, or is it that he simply can't get big fights in his weight division, like Gennady Golovkin? It's tough to say because PBC has such a deep cast at 147 that it makes you wonder whether it's the former. Compare who he could face--Porter, Khan, Broner, Garcia, Spence, Brook, Maidana etc.--with who is facing and has faced--Collazo, Guerrero, Bundu, Zavek, Chaves. His choice of Collazo makes me scratch my head. Porter, who is in the same stage developmentally, has now faced Brook, Alexander and Broner. Why are they treating Thurman with comparative kid gloves?

[Beanflicker]

Thurman has been calling these top guys out for years now, and none of them will step up.

They're all chasing the big Mayweather or Pac fight, and Thurman is just too much risk for too little reward.

He's called out Mayweather, Pac, Khan, Maidana, Devon Alexander, Adrien Broner (before the Maidana loss), Malignaggi (when he was a champ), ect. I don't think it's fair to assume the reason why he's not fighting big fights is because he doesn't want the big fights.

[bzkfn]

Brook is the same. Bags of talent but he's putting his career on hold for Khan, who's putting his career on hold for Mayweather.

[Rantcatrat]

Brook is the same. Bags of talent but he's putting his career on hold for Khan, who's putting his career on hold for Mayweather.

Brook faced Porter though, who is tougher than anyone Khan has faced at 147, and tougher than anyone Thurman has faced in his career. He shouldn't continue to face the Gavin Rees' of the world forever, but the Porter win is legit.

[bzkfn]

Brook is the same. Bags of talent but he's putting his career on hold for Khan, who's putting his career on hold for Mayweather.

Brook faced Porter though, who is tougher than anyone Khan has faced at 147, and tougher than anyone Thurman has faced in his career. He shouldn't continue to face the Gavin Rees' of the world forever, but the Porter win is legit.

I get what you're saying but Khan's record is pretty decent. At 140 he beat Paulie, Maidana, Kotelnik, Judah and in moving up his wins over Alexander and Collazo were both dominant. Brook and Thurman have both talked shit about Khan's opposition but Maidana in particular is a better opponent than either of them have beaten at this point.

[bzkfn]

Brook is the same. Bags of talent but he's putting his career on hold for Khan, who's putting his career on hold for Mayweather.

Brook faced Porter though, who is tougher than anyone Khan has faced at 147, and tougher than anyone Thurman has faced in his career. He shouldn't continue to face the Gavin Rees' of the world forever, but the Porter win is legit.

I get what you're saying but Khan's record is pretty decent. At 140 he beat Paulie, Maidana, Kotelnik, Judah and in moving up his wins over Alexander and Collazo were both dominant. Brook and Thurman have both talked shit about Khan's opposition but Maidana in particular is a better opponent than either of them have beaten at this point.

Also while Porter was a decent victory for Brook, Dan and Gavin are a backwards step. Dan I accept was a mandatory but Gavin was nowhere near that level. Thurman is doing the same things. Running thriugh the gatekeepers but aint fighting the big names.

[Rantcatrat]

Thurman has been calling these top guys out for years now, and none of them will step up.

They're all chasing the big Mayweather or Pac fight, and Thurman is just too much risk for too little reward.

He's called out Mayweather, Pac, Khan, Maidana, Devon Alexander, Adrien Broner (before the Maidana loss), Malignaggi (when he was a champ), ect. I don't think it's fair to assume the reason why he's not fighting big fights is because he doesn't want the big fights.

With Haymon backing him, it's questionable that he hasn't fought someone notable. He has the money to pay for the fights.

[Maravilla2012]

He beat Guerrero which was a step in the right direction and now he's fighting Calazo which makes no sense to me. Let him fight Berto atleast. Maybe after Calazo he gets Porter.

[Gandalf]

I have no problems with Collazo as an opponent. Collazo is a decent fighter and has some name recognition.

[Spicoli]

You can't knock a guy for trying and as far as charisma and media push he's doing all the right things. The kid has that flash and if not for boxing he would be gold as a professional wrestler . Guerrero was respectable and more importantly a guy who made Thurman learn, same with Bundu even though I thought Keith looked like Peter Pan. Chaves was an unknown toughie but proved ok'ish of a run with Bradley, Rios and now again with Alexander. Disappointed in the Collazo showcase and I think that's the only reason its made. Collazo is class but he's faded and vs Khan looked absolutely clueless, slugging and nothing like he once did. JUst a keep busy and probably a return to power display this weekend, then with Spence jr, Bradley, Khan, Porter, Brook, Maidana, the ghost of Berto and Mayweather this division seems primed for some explosions.

[Silkeyjoe]

He beat Guerrero which was a step in the right direction and now he's fighting Calazo which makes no sense to me. Let him fight Berto atleast. Maybe after Calazo he gets Porter.

Id have Collazo ahead of Berto at this stage

[Fenster]

This is Thurman headlining in his hometown so they're not going to get him beat. Compared with the guy Al fed Wilder for his homecoming party Collazo is a killer.

To be fair to Thurman - he's only 26, if you're fighting three or four times a year, guys like Collazo are fair.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't get the idea that weak opposition is okay if you fight many weak opponents but bad if you only fight a few weak opponents. But I think everyone needs to step the fuck up. I don't get the way European countries accept mediocrity but it's whatever.

I just watched an interview with Thurman on ESPN and was again reminded what a dueche Thurman is. Talking about himself in the third person again, talking like he has done things again, the dude is entitled. He's so damn arrogant talking like he thinks he's smart not realizing he is not eloquent, he does not have the grasp of the language he thinks he does. And most importantly he has not accomplished what he thinks he has. His cv is weak, very weak. He needs to step up if he is going to talk like a dueche he needs to back it up. I hope he does because boxing needs young stars but with his sloppy technique and dependence on his athleticism I think he gets taken out by Brook, Spence and possibly Crawford(in a few years) if crawford can handle the weight.

[Fenster]

I don't get the idea that weak opposition is okay if you fight many weak opponents but bad if you only fight a few weak opponents. But I think everyone needs to step the fuck up. I don't get the way European countries accept mediocrity but it's whatever.

I just watched an interview with Thurman on ESPN and was again reminded what a dueche Thurman is. Talking about himself in the third person again, talking like he has done things again, the dude is entitled. He's so damn arrogant talking like he thinks he's smart not realizing he is not eloquent, he does not have the grasp of the language he thinks he does. And most importantly he has not accomplished what he thinks he has. His cv is weak, very weak. He needs to step up if he is going to talk like a dueche he needs to back it up. I hope he does because boxing needs young stars but with his sloppy technique and dependence on his athleticism I think he gets taken out by Brook, Spence and possibly Crawford(in a few years) if crawford can handle the weight.

Don't mean to be patronising but when you realise that boxing is a business you'll understand it a bit more.

[Master]

I don't get the idea that weak opposition is okay if you fight many weak opponents but bad if you only fight a few weak opponents. But I think everyone needs to step the fuck up. I don't get the way European countries accept mediocrity but it's whatever.

I just watched an interview with Thurman on ESPN and was again reminded what a dueche Thurman is. Talking about himself in the third person again, talking like he has done things again, the dude is entitled. He's so damn arrogant talking like he thinks he's smart not realizing he is not eloquent, he does not have the grasp of the language he thinks he does. And most importantly he has not accomplished what he thinks he has. His cv is weak, very weak. He needs to step up if he is going to talk like a dueche he needs to back it up. I hope he does because boxing needs young stars but with his sloppy technique and dependence on his athleticism I think he gets taken out by Brook, Spence and possibly Crawford(in a few years) if crawford can handle the weight.

Don't mean to be patronising but when you realise that boxing is a business you'll understand it a bit more.

It is more than just a business it is a livelihood.