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    Default American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    Now before anyone gets upset... this is not a pop at America. I'm pretty sure the stats would reveal top British, German and Japanese fighters can be successful without leaving their country. Although the top American's really do have a silver spoon in their mouth when in comes to travelling.

    Answering a question about Golovkin's worldwide popularity I noticed that so far in his pro career he had fought in Germany, Panama, Kazakhstan, Denmark, Ukraine, Monaco, California and New York. That is some globetrotting feat which got me looking at the worlds other top fighters.

    I randomly picked out the current top American fighters.

    Andre Ward has never left the states (two fights in the virgin islands against fellow countrymen). 22 of his 28 fights have been in California where he lives.

    Floyd has never left the states. 25 of his 48 fights have been in Las Vegas where he lives.

    Thurman, Porter, Broner and Danny Garcia have had 114 fights combined. Between them they have left the states just three times - Garcia fought in Mexico, Broner fought in Mexico and Thurman fought in Canada. Respect to Bradley and Crawford who both won their titles outside the states.

    Using The Ring's P4P list I picked out the top non-Americans.

    Wladimir Klitschko has fought in 8 countries.

    Guillermo Rigondeaux has fought in 5 countries (no fights at home obviously).

    Roman Gonzales has fought in 4 countries including 19 times outside his home one.

    Sergey Kovalev has fought in 4 countries.

    Manny Pac has fought in 5 countries.



    ((yes I was bored and went into full blown anorak wearing trainspotter mode but it killed some time. Fact.))
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    Default Re: American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    Well I guess I have to agree....




    Golden spoon though

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    Default Re: American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    I spent all morning doing extensive research to be greeted by a Ric Flair video. Brilliant.
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    Default Re: American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    You probably have a point but why would a star fighter travel when he doesn't need to. The American market is still the market fighters want to break into. We have over 300 million people in our country and it is very lucrative for a top fighter. What incentive does Floyd have to travel. GGG is impressive, he could easily settle here and make the bucks but I think the king of Monaco loves the guy and does a lot to have him fight in Monaco. So yes, a lot of us fighters don't travel but they don't need to.......factoid.

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    Default Re: American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    I agree that they are fortunate. That's just how it works though. For the most part, the biggest fights will be in the US. Fortunately for others, they often don't have to live here. They can train in their country and then come here for their fight and go back home. Also, Americans usually don't care about the nationality of a fighter. They don't root for someone just because they are American.

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    Default Re: American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    I agree that they are fortunate. That's just how it works though. For the most part, the biggest fights will be in the US. Fortunately for others, they often don't have to live here. They can train in their country and then come here for their fight and go back home. Also, Americans usually don't care about the nationality of a fighter. They don't root for someone just because they are American.
    Yes, very true. It's like that in many sports here. I'm big on baseball and a number of my favorite players are Dominican, Pedro Martinez, a picture for the Red Sox, I would have taken a bullet for the guy. When it comes to sports we love the ability. Soccer players don't come to the US, the money and fame isn't here for them to the degree it is elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    I agree that they are fortunate. That's just how it works though. For the most part, the biggest fights will be in the US. Fortunately for others, they often don't have to live here. They can train in their country and then come here for their fight and go back home. Also, Americans usually don't care about the nationality of a fighter. They don't root for someone just because they are American.
    I agree.

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    Default Re: American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I spent all morning doing extensive research to be greeted by a Ric Flair video. Brilliant.

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    Default Re: American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    I will post what I wrote to Fenster in a rep comment just so nobody thinks I'm trolling here.

    When it comes to market place no matter the product, America is the Bullseye on the board, if you hit it big in America you are SET. The Beatles had to come to America and get over with the fans in order to "make it", but Elvis Presley didn't have to travel the globe in order to be "The King" because he was born and raised in America and when he hit it big here nobody really cared how big he was elsewhere his celebrity was established due to his making it big in America.

    A guy like Manny Pacquiao won over America and therefore he is/was a WORLD star....meanwhile Floyd Mayweather Jr. he made it in America, never had to travel, the money was always here for him. Ricky Hatton in order to make more money, get the big fights he had to come to America.....just the way it is.

    People always like to say America has no culture, but we set the standard for the world....if the US ain't buying it, then it ain't worth selling.

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    Default Re: American fighters are born with a silver spoon in mouth. Home advantage. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I will post what I wrote to Fenster in a rep comment just so nobody thinks I'm trolling here.

    When it comes to market place no matter the product, America is the Bullseye on the board, if you hit it big in America you are SET. The Beatles had to come to America and get over with the fans in order to "make it", but Elvis Presley didn't have to travel the globe in order to be "The King" because he was born and raised in America and when he hit it big here nobody really cared how big he was elsewhere his celebrity was established due to his making it big in America.

    A guy like Manny Pacquiao won over America and therefore he is/was a WORLD star....meanwhile Floyd Mayweather Jr. he made it in America, never had to travel, the money was always here for him. Ricky Hatton in order to make more money, get the big fights he had to come to America.....just the way it is.

    People always like to say America has no culture, but we set the standard for the world....if the US ain't buying it, then it ain't worth selling.
    This is the mythical thing that none of the rest of the world is buying. Most of what you call Culture is imported. Second hand, hand me downs from the German, Irish, British, Italian, French, etc. From the hot dog to modern art all of it happened because of immigration. You imported everything but your loud trousers
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