Why Wladimir Klitschko is a better heavyweight than Lennox Lewis

[Wacko3205]

look i fan of lewis but klitschko much bettter he also world champion at kick boxing he has P.H.D TO GOOD to be true which is hard to believe he ruin lennox chance to fight roy jones, chris byrd, he scared him off



wladimir wouldn't have mess like lewis did against his two losss

My god there is someone who uses worse english than Jax!!!

10 to 1 odds say...that his guy does:

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[Wacko3205]

Heh heh heh.

I still say that cat in the pic above looks like he's perched on the porcelin throne.

[p4pking]

Sorry but lewis was training very hard to fight kirk johnson. About 10 weeks down the line kirkjohnson pulled out because of injury. Then klitschko got a call from lewis to fight him in 11 days. Still klitschko agreed to fight him with 11 days of preparation. But still lennox seemed out of shape that how crap klitschko made him look. Lennox was very heavy which he shud have dominated the early rounds, and klitschko shud have dominated the the later rounds, but the fight was stopped before the later rounds.
But the worst thing was lewis was hammered to bits in the early rounds and is very lucky the fight got stoped before the later rounds
It a fact when your heavier you get tired more and more chance of getting knocked out. Klitschko was taking it easy in early rounds. Imagine what would have happened when he take it serious in the later rounds. Imagine what would have happen if he prepared full 12 weeks. Why else do u think lewis retired


wladimir would have destroyed lewis more badly than oliver mcall did

Everything you say here actually counters your Klitschko brothers my friend.. Because Kirk Johnson is a much much different fighter and so Lewis not only didn't prepare properly for Vitali but he bulked up and was prepared to go up against Kirk Johnson who is/was a much more physical fighter.. In spite of his being conditioned completely wrong against Vitali he still opened up one of the worst cuts I have ever seen, at least on TV.. Lewis was heaving badly early in the fight and he wasn't sharp with his jab or anything, he was prepared for a completely different fight, and thus he had to fight plodding forwards forcing the action, a way I had never seen him fight before, and he did still open a trech on the guy's face.. I have no doubt that he would have beat Vitali with relative ease at his best, and against Wlad it couldn't possibly be close imo.. Theres no way Wlad wouldn't eat one good right hand and well, he couldn't take it whatsoever.

[Purist]

THERE ARE TWO KLITSCHKO BROTHER , BOTH ARE THE MOST INTELLIGENT BOXERS EVER LIVED, WITH P.H.D AND WORLD CHAMPION BELT, OF COURSE THE OLDER BROTHER IS ALOT TOUGHER THAN THE YOUNGER ONE

ANYWAY I'M COMPARING THE YOUNGER BROTHER OF VITALI KLITSCHKO TO LEWIS. i heard the younger brother called baby klitschko.
ANYWAY ALL THESE ARE FACTS
LENNOX LEWIS won the gold medal at age 22 and BABY KLITSCHKO won it at 20 YEARS OLD.
baby KLITSCHKO BECOME WORLD CHAMPION AT 24 YEARS OLD and lennox became world champion just before his 28th birthday.
Both have so much in common
* they are very tall
* super heavyweight gold medalist
* good looking
* former world champion
* GLASS CHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
* BOTH FIGTHER HAVE LOST 2 FIGHT IN 2ND AND 5TH ROUND!
bUT THE DIFFERENT IS LENNOX WAS KNOCKED OUT CLEAN AND baby KLITSCHKO WAS T.K.O BUT SHOW MORE HEART THAN LEWIS BY KEEP GETTING UP.
* BOTH FIGHTER HAVE FOUGHT RAY MERCER BUT RAY MERCER BEAT LEWIS AS ALOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE TILL THIS DAY. TO BE HONEST IT WAS ANYONE FIGHT, A VERY CLOSE FIGHT. BUT WLADIMIR IS THE FIRST EVER PERSON TO KNOCK DOWN RAY MERCER, BIGGER SURPRISE IS THAT HE KNOCK HIM DOWN IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN KNOCK HIM OUT RIGHT AFTER THE FITH ROUND. LENNOX OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T KNOCK DOWN RAY MERCER AT ALL AND DIDN'T.
* KLITSCHKO KNOCKOUT RATIO IS MUCH STRONGER THAN LENNOX.
THE ONLY POSITIVE THING THAT CAN BE SAID ABOUT LEWIS IS THAT HE LOST 2 FIGHT AND DREW 1 AND BABY KLITSCHKO LOST THREE.
bUT REMEMBER THE MORE FIGHT YOU HAVE THE MORE CHANCE OF LOSING AND BABY KLITSCHKO HAS HAD ALOT MORE FIGHT THAN LEWIS EVEN THOU LEWIS IS 10 YEARS OLD THAN BABY KLITSCHKO
but lewis is still one of the best pound for pound ever lived.

You forgot the part about how when Wlad got beat he never tried to avenge his losses and had his brother do it for him. Lennox always went right back to the guy that knocked him out. Can you name one time Wladimer ahs done that

Lennox is better.

[Klitsfan]

THERE ARE TWO KLITSCHKO BROTHER , BOTH ARE THE MOST INTELLIGENT BOXERS EVER LIVED, WITH P.H.D AND WORLD CHAMPION BELT, OF COURSE THE OLDER BROTHER IS ALOT TOUGHER THAN THE YOUNGER ONE

ANYWAY I'M COMPARING THE YOUNGER BROTHER OF VITALI KLITSCHKO TO LEWIS. i heard the younger brother called baby klitschko.
ANYWAY ALL THESE ARE FACTS
LENNOX LEWIS won the gold medal at age 22 and BABY KLITSCHKO won it at 20 YEARS OLD.
baby KLITSCHKO BECOME WORLD CHAMPION AT 24 YEARS OLD and lennox became world champion just before his 28th birthday.
Both have so much in common
* they are very tall
* super heavyweight gold medalist
* good looking
* former world champion
* GLASS CHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
* BOTH FIGTHER HAVE LOST 2 FIGHT IN 2ND AND 5TH ROUND!
bUT THE DIFFERENT IS LENNOX WAS KNOCKED OUT CLEAN AND baby KLITSCHKO WAS T.K.O BUT SHOW MORE HEART THAN LEWIS BY KEEP GETTING UP.
* BOTH FIGHTER HAVE FOUGHT RAY MERCER BUT RAY MERCER BEAT LEWIS AS ALOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE TILL THIS DAY. TO BE HONEST IT WAS ANYONE FIGHT, A VERY CLOSE FIGHT. BUT WLADIMIR IS THE FIRST EVER PERSON TO KNOCK DOWN RAY MERCER, BIGGER SURPRISE IS THAT HE KNOCK HIM DOWN IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN KNOCK HIM OUT RIGHT AFTER THE FITH ROUND. LENNOX OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T KNOCK DOWN RAY MERCER AT ALL AND DIDN'T.
* KLITSCHKO KNOCKOUT RATIO IS MUCH STRONGER THAN LENNOX.
THE ONLY POSITIVE THING THAT CAN BE SAID ABOUT LEWIS IS THAT HE LOST 2 FIGHT AND DREW 1 AND BABY KLITSCHKO LOST THREE.
bUT REMEMBER THE MORE FIGHT YOU HAVE THE MORE CHANCE OF LOSING AND BABY KLITSCHKO HAS HAD ALOT MORE FIGHT THAN LEWIS EVEN THOU LEWIS IS 10 YEARS OLD THAN BABY KLITSCHKO
but lewis is still one of the best pound for pound ever lived.

You forgot the part about how when Wlad got beat he never tried to avenge his losses and had his brother do it for him. Lennox always went right back to the guy that knocked him out. Can you name one time Wladimer ahs done that

Lennox is better.

How can you say he had his brother avenge his loses for him?Wladimir is only 30 years old and has plenty of time to fight Brewster and has said he want's to avenge that loss.And yes skill wise he is better than Lewis.

[The_One77]

THERE ARE TWO KLITSCHKO BROTHER , BOTH ARE THE MOST INTELLIGENT BOXERS EVER LIVED, WITH P.H.D AND WORLD CHAMPION BELT, OF COURSE THE OLDER BROTHER IS ALOT TOUGHER THAN THE YOUNGER ONE

ANYWAY I'M COMPARING THE YOUNGER BROTHER OF VITALI KLITSCHKO TO LEWIS. i heard the younger brother called baby klitschko.
ANYWAY ALL THESE ARE FACTS
LENNOX LEWIS won the gold medal at age 22 and BABY KLITSCHKO won it at 20 YEARS OLD.
baby KLITSCHKO BECOME WORLD CHAMPION AT 24 YEARS OLD and lennox became world champion just before his 28th birthday.
Both have so much in common
* they are very tall
* super heavyweight gold medalist
* good looking
* former world champion
* GLASS CHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
* BOTH FIGTHER HAVE LOST 2 FIGHT IN 2ND AND 5TH ROUND!
bUT THE DIFFERENT IS LENNOX WAS KNOCKED OUT CLEAN AND baby KLITSCHKO WAS T.K.O BUT SHOW MORE HEART THAN LEWIS BY KEEP GETTING UP.
* BOTH FIGHTER HAVE FOUGHT RAY MERCER BUT RAY MERCER BEAT LEWIS AS ALOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE TILL THIS DAY. TO BE HONEST IT WAS ANYONE FIGHT, A VERY CLOSE FIGHT. BUT WLADIMIR IS THE FIRST EVER PERSON TO KNOCK DOWN RAY MERCER, BIGGER SURPRISE IS THAT HE KNOCK HIM DOWN IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN KNOCK HIM OUT RIGHT AFTER THE FITH ROUND. LENNOX OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T KNOCK DOWN RAY MERCER AT ALL AND DIDN'T.
* KLITSCHKO KNOCKOUT RATIO IS MUCH STRONGER THAN LENNOX.
THE ONLY POSITIVE THING THAT CAN BE SAID ABOUT LEWIS IS THAT HE LOST 2 FIGHT AND DREW 1 AND BABY KLITSCHKO LOST THREE.
bUT REMEMBER THE MORE FIGHT YOU HAVE THE MORE CHANCE OF LOSING AND BABY KLITSCHKO HAS HAD ALOT MORE FIGHT THAN LEWIS EVEN THOU LEWIS IS 10 YEARS OLD THAN BABY KLITSCHKO
but lewis is still one of the best pound for pound ever lived.

You forgot the part about how when Wlad got beat he never tried to avenge his losses and had his brother do it for him. Lennox always went right back to the guy that knocked him out. Can you name one time Wladimer ahs done that

Lennox is better.

How can you say he had his brother avenge his loses for him?Wladimir is only 30 years old and has plenty of time to fight Brewster and has said he want's to avenge that loss.And yes skill wise he is better than Lewis.

well, i doubt he is going to fight Ross Purity and Corrie Sanders in rematches don't you?

[Purist]

Couldn't he have fought Purrity and Sanders after they beat him instead of having Vitali do it

[Gandalf]

no way wlad is better than what lewis was....no way...

[p4pking]

Sanders would have blasted him out of there all over again as he would have Vitali, if he had the same chin as his brother. I just don't see any case for Wlad standing a chance against Lewis.. Vitali took some massive shots against a badly conditioned Lennox, ones that would KTFO of his brother. That uppercut, can you imagine Wlad.. Come on.

[Klitsfan]

THERE ARE TWO KLITSCHKO BROTHER , BOTH ARE THE MOST INTELLIGENT BOXERS EVER LIVED, WITH P.H.D AND WORLD CHAMPION BELT, OF COURSE THE OLDER BROTHER IS ALOT TOUGHER THAN THE YOUNGER ONE

ANYWAY I'M COMPARING THE YOUNGER BROTHER OF VITALI KLITSCHKO TO LEWIS. i heard the younger brother called baby klitschko.
ANYWAY ALL THESE ARE FACTS
LENNOX LEWIS won the gold medal at age 22 and BABY KLITSCHKO won it at 20 YEARS OLD.
baby KLITSCHKO BECOME WORLD CHAMPION AT 24 YEARS OLD and lennox became world champion just before his 28th birthday.
Both have so much in common
* they are very tall
* super heavyweight gold medalist
* good looking
* former world champion
* GLASS CHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
* BOTH FIGTHER HAVE LOST 2 FIGHT IN 2ND AND 5TH ROUND!
bUT THE DIFFERENT IS LENNOX WAS KNOCKED OUT CLEAN AND baby KLITSCHKO WAS T.K.O BUT SHOW MORE HEART THAN LEWIS BY KEEP GETTING UP.
* BOTH FIGHTER HAVE FOUGHT RAY MERCER BUT RAY MERCER BEAT LEWIS AS ALOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE TILL THIS DAY. TO BE HONEST IT WAS ANYONE FIGHT, A VERY CLOSE FIGHT. BUT WLADIMIR IS THE FIRST EVER PERSON TO KNOCK DOWN RAY MERCER, BIGGER SURPRISE IS THAT HE KNOCK HIM DOWN IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN KNOCK HIM OUT RIGHT AFTER THE FITH ROUND. LENNOX OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T KNOCK DOWN RAY MERCER AT ALL AND DIDN'T.
* KLITSCHKO KNOCKOUT RATIO IS MUCH STRONGER THAN LENNOX.
THE ONLY POSITIVE THING THAT CAN BE SAID ABOUT LEWIS IS THAT HE LOST 2 FIGHT AND DREW 1 AND BABY KLITSCHKO LOST THREE.
bUT REMEMBER THE MORE FIGHT YOU HAVE THE MORE CHANCE OF LOSING AND BABY KLITSCHKO HAS HAD ALOT MORE FIGHT THAN LEWIS EVEN THOU LEWIS IS 10 YEARS OLD THAN BABY KLITSCHKO
but lewis is still one of the best pound for pound ever lived.

You forgot the part about how when Wlad got beat he never tried to avenge his losses and had his brother do it for him. Lennox always went right back to the guy that knocked him out. Can you name one time Wladimer ahs done that

Lennox is better.

How can you say he had his brother avenge his loses for him?Wladimir is only 30 years old and has plenty of time to fight Brewster and has said he want's to avenge that loss.And yes skill wise he is better than Lewis.

well, i doubt he is going to fight Ross Purity and Corrie Sanders in rematches don't you?

I guess I don't understand the point.So in order to be a great HW you have to avenge all of your loses?What Like Tyson,Holyfield,Byrd,Holmes,Spinks........Hey wait a minute?News flash, it rarely works out that a fighter can immediately get a rematch with a fighter just because he wants to, both guys have to agree!The loss to Puritty was just inexperience on his part, and after the fight with Sanders he took some time off, Sanders did not and the fight with Vitali was made.Sanders fought once more and then retired, what is Wladimir supposed to do?It is no fault of his.He will face Brewster again I am quite sure being that he is only 30 years old!

[drgoodlooking]

klitschko has never be knocked down never mind knocked out. he lost 2 fight but was winning on points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so never really lost.
Sharon briggs has knocked lewis down, hasim has knocked out lewis never mind knock down. yaaaaawwnn so has oliver mcall
my hand are tired now.

Wladimir Klitschko hasn't proved nothin'.

[Klitsfan]

klitschko has never be knocked down never mind knocked out. he lost 2 fight but was winning on points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so never really lost.
Sharon briggs has knocked lewis down, hasim has knocked out lewis never mind knock down. yaaaaawwnn so has oliver mcall
my hand are tired now.

Wladimir Klitschko hasn't proved nothin'.

That is a double negative.Negative + Negative = Positive.That means you think he has proven something.

[Bomp]

Quite possibly the most insane thread I have read.................ever.

I'm thinking the guy who started it is winding us up. There is no way Wlad can compare to Lennox on either acheivment or ability. Even if Wlad goes on to beat Byrd and Rahman, he doesn't come close, Lennox at his best would have literally wiped the floor with those two.

Only two losses in Lennox career, the first one due to inexperience (and not against Ross Purity either) and the second one due to severe lack of conditioning, plus he came back to avenge both emphatically.

I'll give the older Klit credit though, he was never in his profesional career behind on points and lost two very technical knockouts, however even he couldn't come close to beating a prime and in shape Lewis. Wlad however is an alphabet champion at best.

[yoitsdan]

Lennox is the best heavyweight of this era period. No one can say wlad is better than lewis. Anyone who does, please get your head checked. Vitali had the potential to be the best of this era, but for one reason or another it never happened, which is exactly why wlad isn't gonna be the best of this era either.

[El Kabong]

Everything you say here actually counters your Klitschko brothers my friend.. Because Kirk Johnson is a much much different fighter and so Lewis not only didn't prepare properly for Vitali but he bulked up and was prepared to go up against Kirk Johnson who is/was a much more physical fighter.. In spite of his being conditioned completely wrong against Vitali he still opened up one of the worst cuts I have ever seen, at least on TV.. Lewis was heaving badly early in the fight and he wasn't sharp with his jab or anything, he was prepared for a completely different fight, and thus he had to fight plodding forwards forcing the action, a way I had never seen him fight before, and he did still open a trech on the guy's face.. I have no doubt that he would have beat Vitali with relative ease at his best, and against Wlad it couldn't possibly be close imo.. Theres no way Wlad wouldn't eat one good right hand and well, he couldn't take it whatsoever.

#1 Everyone bulks up for Vitali too
#2 Kirk is NOT a more physical fighter than Vitali
#3 Lewis was just plain old, not "out of shape" not "under trained", just old
#4 Vitali was planing to fight Leo Nolan or someone of that nature so he had a FAR greater step up in class than Lewis did, Johnson was at least top 20-30 whereas Nolan is a nobody
#5 Lennox has had a history of tough fights with taller fighters especially ones who can jab with him!
-Ray Mercer
-Shannon Briggs
-Evander Holyfield
-Zeljko Mavoric
-Oliver McCall
-Tony Tucker

I'm not saying at Lewis' peak he wouldn't have beaten Vitali but it would still have been a very difficult fight for him.