Wilder says he won't go to Russia to fight Povetkin

[beenKOed]

To be fair why would the champ go to the challengers backyard. That does not make since if you are the belt holder the other guy should come to your place and fight it out. Worse comes to worse just go to vegas because that is a pretty neutral place to go and it is fight capital.

MONEY, my friend, MONEY!

[IamInuit]

He's the challenger and unless he's lowballed there is no reason for a purse bid and he should be willing to go regardless. Calzaghe never went anywhere until the end of his career along with tons of other champions. Povertkin seems ready to travel but this comment of "if its promoted correctly" is a bit of a joke considering they are going to the land of promotion. Given the state of their amateur programs perhaps he meant its all good unless the date overlaps my new juice cycle.

[Fenster]

I didn't stereotype at all. S stereotype is based on false accusation. I said the possibility exists just like it does when our black NHL players go there to play. It happens all the time and to be blunt they are fucking racists whether they lay on Roys sack or not.

All Russians are racist? When they're not being racist it's because they're pretending not to be racist?

I've never seen the behaviour you claim is likely if a fight takes place in Russia. Feel free to show some evidence

[IamInuit]

I didn't stereotype at all. S stereotype is based on false accusation. I said the possibility exists just like it does when our black NHL players go there to play. It happens all the time and to be blunt they are fucking racists whether they lay on Roys sack or not.

All Russians are racist? When they're not being racist it's because they're pretending not to be racist?

I've never seen the behaviour you claim is likely if a fight takes place in Russia. Feel free to show some evidence

I'll you want it, go find the shit yourself. I'm not doing your work for you. Try the internet. I dont care whether you have seen it or not. I have and in my country and have seen tons of footage over the years and reports by hockey palers are everywhere so please...... dont try to make it sound like I'm a liar cause now you sound like a dipshit.

Who said all Russians were racist? I didn’t. "They" does not imply all when taken into context everything else I have said. I inferred they have a racist culture and they do. I said people show up at sporting events involving black athletes wearing gorilla costumes, throwing bananas all the time. And they do. Now just to be clear.....when I say "all the time" that does not mean every event and when I say Russian fans, that does not mean all Russian fans. FFS Kovalev even gave a shirt as a gift with a chimp's face super-imposed on Stevensons body with a caption reading "Adonis looks great" and tweeted it so I'm not off in my conclusion or charge in the least.

Now run along cause I won’t be replying to your next attempt at pretzel logic.

[Kirkland Laing]

To be fair there's a huge problem in Russian football with racism. They've had to play Champions League matches behind closed doors due to the behaviour of their fans. Even club directors are openly racist. The problem is getting worse and most cases now aren't even reported, never mind punished.

https://www.google.com/search?q=russ...utf-8&oe=utf-8

[Fenster]

I didn't stereotype at all. S stereotype is based on false accusation. I said the possibility exists just like it does when our black NHL players go there to play. It happens all the time and to be blunt they are fucking racists whether they lay on Roys sack or not.

All Russians are racist? When they're not being racist it's because they're pretending not to be racist?

I've never seen the behaviour you claim is likely if a fight takes place in Russia. Feel free to show some evidence

I'll you want it, go find the shit yourself. I'm not doing your work for you. Try the internet. I dont care whether you have seen it or not. I have and in my country and have seen tons of footage over the years and reports by hockey palers are everywhere so please...... dont try to make it sound like I'm a liar cause now you sound like a dipshit.

Who said all Russians were racist? I didn’t. "They" does not imply all when taken into context everything else I have said. I inferred they have a racist culture and they do. I said people show up at sporting events involving black athletes wearing gorilla costumes, throwing bananas all the time. And they do. Now just to be clear.....when I say "all the time" that does not mean every event and when I say Russian fans, that does not mean all Russian fans. FFS Kovalev even gave a shirt as a gift with a chimp's face super-imposed on Stevensons body with a caption reading "Adonis looks great" and tweeted it so I'm not off in my conclusion or charge in the least.

Now run along cause I won’t be replying to your next attempt at pretzel logic.

I'm a dipshit. I've misrepresented what you said. When you say "Russian fans" it doesn't mean "Russian fans." "They" doesn't mean "they." Kovalev wore a chimp shirt, which proves you right.

I merely said that it was unfair to label all Russians as corrupt/racist.

Here's your quote again.

You don't go fight in Russia.

You go to Russia and have your belt taken under threat of bodily harm, kidnapping, murder, etc...

Add to that the great possibility that classy fans in guerilla costumes show up and people start hucking bananas at the guy. Because that’s just what kind of tools they are. I think Povetkin goes to the States.

I've never seen the Russian "tools" chucking bananas at people in a boxing match. If you have then fine, i'll take your word for it. Next time I watch a fight from Russia i'll pay closer attention.

[Master]

Fenster is a dip shit. Fact.

[Fenster]

I'd prefer massive cunt but dipshit is fine. Only ever expressing my opinion, nothing personal.

[Beanz]

A lot of Russian sports fans are openly racist, and ironically behave more like dribbling primates than the black athletes they howl at.

That said I don't really care where they fight, Povetkin/ Wilder needs to happen already and the winner should face the Fury/Wlad winner.

[ross]

A lot of Russian sports fans are openly racist, and ironically behave more like dribbling primates than the black athletes they howl at.

That said I don't really care where they fight, Povetkin/ Wilder needs to happen already and the winner should face the Fury/Wlad winner.

Maybe that could have been worded better

[Beanz]

A lot of Russian sports fans are openly racist, and ironically behave more like dribbling primates than the black athletes they howl at.

That said I don't really care where they fight, Povetkin/ Wilder needs to happen already and the winner should face the Fury/Wlad winner.

Maybe that could have been worded better

How ?

[ykdadamaja]

I wouldn't go either. The champion should defend at home at all times.

[TitoFan]

I'm all for Wilder expanding his geographical horizons but he is the champ. What possible objections could Povetkin have to fighting in the U.S.? He cited "right circumstances". What are those? The objections are not money... they're location. Seems like an easy hurdle to overcome, and I figure it will pretty soon.

Personally, I give Povetkin better than a 50/50 chance to beat Wilder. Povetkin is by light years the most polished. IMO, he should be chomping at the bit for the chance to unseat Wilder, regardless of where they fight.

[J_Undisputed]

Anyone know what the numbers are for Wilder/Szpilka. If wilder's really not drawing a whole lot of fans (fighting the molinas of the world), the possibility does exist that the money and draw of a Russian fighter having an opportunity to fight for a world title in front of a home town crowd does pay off better than Wilder. The challenger should have to chase the title but with the Type of promoter driven f*ckery (catch weights, location, rehydration clauses, denying people stuff like knee braces) we have now throwing hurdles in front of challengers just to protect champions...these kind of x factors like nationalism driven cash hordes can even things a little.

[J_Undisputed]

A lot of Russian sports fans are openly racist, and ironically behave more like dribbling primates than the black athletes they howl at.

That said I don't really care where they fight, Povetkin/ Wilder needs to happen already and the winner should face the Fury/Wlad winner.

Maybe that could have been worded better

How ?

behave more like dribbling primates instead of the black athletes they howl at.

the way you phrased it kind of makes an equation that sounds like regardless of how much more the fans act like dribbling primates... at the basic level there is still a correlation between black athletes and acting like dribbling primates. I'm sure it was purely unintended.