This fight shows how good Tszyu really was...

**Taeth** · 04-10-2006 07:48 AM

night Wacko.

**OumaFan** · 04-10-2006 07:55 AM

Hard to judge off of just one fight, I always thought that Tsyzu was at his best versus boxers, especially as his career went on, cause the fight was at range and he had room to get off the right, he needs that extension which he can get against a guy like Zab. I think, and I'm sure that some will disagree with this, that with Hatton's mauling style he would have always been a tough fight for Tsyzu. He was just better at range. Floyd does better when people are coming right to him. Don't get me wrong he's not bad taking the lead in the fight but its not really his thing.

But yeah I agree Tsyzu was a great fighter. So is PBF, the thing is not every fight is gonna be Gatti revisited, there not all gonna be that easy. That doesn't mean he's not a great fighter.

**Hairdoo** · 04-10-2006 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by The_One77

What was the highest P4P position tyzsu has ever placed in by the way?

Who's p4p are you talking about? it is somewhat a popularity contest dont forget.

Kostya fought and beat the best in his respective weight division! can the same be said of Floyd?
no... he is yet to prove himself at 140 let alone 147.

**Purist** · 04-10-2006 07:58 AM

Tszyu was best against boxers becasue boxers gave ground and gave him time to extend and catch them with his long right hand. Which is why he was troubled when someone pressed the action, like a Leija or those other guys or a tackie.

**Taeth** · 04-10-2006 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by OumaFan

Hard to judge off of just one fight, I always thought that Tsyzu was at his best versus boxers, especially as his career went on, cause the fight was at range and he had room to get off the right, he needs that extension which he can get against a guy like Zab. I think, and I'm sure that some will disagree with this, that with Hatton's mauling style he would have always been a tough fight for Tsyzu. He was just better at range. Floyd does better when people are coming right to him. Don't get me wrong he's not bad taking the lead in the fight but its not really his thing.

But yeah I agree Tsyzu was a great fighter. So is PBF, the thing is not every fight is gonna be Gatti revisited, there not all gonna be that easy. That doesn't mean he's not a great fighter.

I think Hatton only one for three reasons. 1) He was in great shape. 2) He has allowed to do blatantly illegal things. 3) Tszyu was already old.

**Hairdoo** · 04-10-2006 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by wacko3205

I totally disagree.

Kostya just fights a different fight than Floyd does & Floyd was simply showing Judah too much respect...also...Mayweather was just on the move up & what Mayweather has done has been far more impressive than what Kostya has done.

Hate him or love him...Floyd is a phenom of a fighter.

He beat Judah...no matter what.

How so Wacko? There is alot of belts flying around that a half decent fighter can pick up. All floyd has been doing at 140 and 147 is going for the biggest pay checks nothing more.

**Snakey** · 04-10-2006 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Starr

Tszyu was best against boxers becasue boxers gave ground and gave him time to extend and catch them with his long right hand. Which is why he was troubled when someone pressed the action, like a Leija or those other guys or a tackie.

Tackie got a boxing lesson from kostya, kostya could of finished him but left him there to show that he could box. If you watch the leija fight, leija was causing troubles but when the fight was stopped kostya was clearly taking over. If the fight had of gone on then kostya would of won by UD or maybe a late stoppage. All that matters is that kostya was one of the greats and IMO will go down as an all time great. He lost to hatton coz of hattons pressure but as taeth said...he used some questionable tactics. But one thing you cant say about Tszyu is that he was scared to fight out of australia, he didnt duck anyone and he beat the best. He is a better fighter then zab in the respect that he has the skill, he has the power and he has the mental game unlike judah. Judah falls apart easily and now looks to have a fear of being knocked out as the Tszyu fight seems to have put a black mark on his resume. Why shouldnt it be a black mark? He acted immaturely and showed that he was a fuckwit. You can say he has matured but we can never be sure. But IMO the reason why judah was pissed after the tszyu fight was coz of a couple of reasons: He got up and then fell twice and that showed he had been hit quite hard and he hadnt quite gotten his thoughts together and acted irrasionally and the other major one being his mouth. He knows how to use his mouth....too well for his own good. At every weigh in he is cocky and talks about knocking people out easily yet so far against the big names he has come up short and he would of been embarrased that he said he would knock tszyu out easily and got knocked out himself in 2 rounds.

**shooter** · 04-10-2006 02:00 PM

Judah would have won the Tyzu fight if he wasn't concussed.

**Snakey** · 04-10-2006 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by shooter

Judah would have won the Tyzu fight if he wasn't concussed.

Yeah i hope your....well i think you are joking, right? If your not then its like sayin "I would of won that fight if i hadnt of lost every round". If your jokin then its a good idea to add a funny smilie like

**Wacko3205** · 04-10-2006 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Hairdoo

Originally Posted by wacko3205

I totally disagree.

Kostya just fights a different fight than Floyd does & Floyd was simply showing Judah too much respect...also...Mayweather was just on the move up & what Mayweather has done has been far more impressive than what Kostya has done.

Hate him or love him...Floyd is a phenom of a fighter.

He beat Judah...no matter what.

How so Wacko? There is alot of belts flying around that a half decent fighter can pick up. All floyd has been doing at 140 and 147 is going for the biggest pay checks nothing more.

How so?

Well...personally...I think that he's fought better opposition than Kostya as he dominated his opponants a lot easier than Tszyu did.

I respect Kostya & I like the fact that he stops 'em cold...but Floyd's still winning & Kostya's in close to hang up time.

**briggs** · 04-10-2006 06:35 PM

respect for this kostya thread,respect homies.

kostya a champion.

**PRIDE OF BOSTON** · 04-10-2006 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by wacko3205

I totally disagree.

Kostya just fights a different fight than Floyd does & Floyd was simply showing Judah too much respect...also...Mayweather was just on the move up & what Mayweather has done has been far more impressive than what Kostya has done.

Hate him or love him...Floyd is a phenom of a fighter.

He beat Judah...no matter what.

I TOTALLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. MAYWEATHER IS A DIFFERENT AND MORE IMPRESSIVE FIGHTER. AS GOOD AS KOSTYA WAS... AND HE WAS GOOD. FLOYD'S CAREER ISNT EVEN CLOSE TO DONE AND ITS LOOKING VERY JONES JR'ESK THUS FAR.

md · 04-10-2006 07:12 PM

Kostya was great but Mayweather's something else. He's simply got more in the tool box than Kostya had and there's still more to come from him. Hatton v's Mayweather? Can't wait!

**El Gamo** · 04-10-2006 10:26 PM

Kostya v Floyd, would love to have seen that!!! I know this may sound crazy but I think Kostya preferred fightin boxers,gave him time to think as opposed to a bull like Hatton type fighter. Would love to see how Floyd would react if Kostya caught him!!!