Oh Dear, Someone has called Margarito's bluff....

[shza]

To whoever said Tony has signed to fight Cosme Rivera....errr,that fight has yet to be made and it is a mandatory although I hope he does not take it. It looks like Tony will be fighting Clottey which would be another dangerous match as Clottey was beating the current "man" Baldomir easily until he was DQed.
And to whoever said you pay your dues,I suggest you go and check your history about Margarito,pro since 15,faced everyone he can etc etc,that's paying your dues.

Clottey looked unimpressive last night. A B fighter, maybe a B+. Margarito ought to beat him, but it wouldn't prove much if he did. I'd much rather see him against Quintana or Collazzo, or to go up to 154 and fight people his own size.

True, I heard he wanted Quintana so why not try to make the fight

I'm with you on that--I'd love to see that and I'd give the edge to Quintana. Margarito would actually deserve good fights if he could get past Quintana.

[Galaxy]

I thought Cosme was his number one contender? would he have lost his title if he hadn't fought him?

Besides, Rivera was annoying with his taunting, he said he would spank Zab and send him back to his daddy and then gets dropped with the first punch of the fight

Judah only would have lost his belt, it only holds up his pants. You can't lose you championship cause you didn't fight someone!

[Majesty]

I thought Cosme was his number one contender? would he have lost his title if he hadn't fought him?

Besides, Rivera was annoying with his taunting, he said he would spank Zab and send him back to his daddy and then gets dropped with the first punch of the fight

Judah only would have lost his belt, it only holds up his pants. You can't lose you championship cause you didn't fight someone!

Yeah you're right. But I wouldn't have wanted to see Cosme with a title despite how little it meant

[Galaxy]

I thought Cosme was his number one contender? would he have lost his title if he hadn't fought him?

Besides, Rivera was annoying with his taunting, he said he would spank Zab and send him back to his daddy and then gets dropped with the first punch of the fight

Judah only would have lost his belt, it only holds up his pants. You can't lose you championship cause you didn't fight someone!

I don't recognise them so they don't mean sh*t to me

Yeah you're right. But I wouldn't have wanted to see Cosme with a title despite how little it meant

[Majesty]

I wouldn't recognize them either. But I don't want to see "IBF Champion Cosme Rivera" anywhere on any boxing list. But since this whole Margarito fight I want Margarito to win impressively, if he doesn't then

[maracho]

To whoever said Tony has signed to fight Cosme Rivera....errr,that fight has yet to be made and it is a mandatory although I hope he does not take it. It looks like Tony will be fighting Clottey which would be another dangerous match as Clottey was beating the current "man" Baldomir easily until he was DQed.
And to whoever said you pay your dues,I suggest you go and check your history about Margarito,pro since 15,faced everyone he can etc etc,that's paying your dues.

To people who say he's overated, he hasn't even had a chance to prove himself against the elite, don't tell me about he doesn't deserve his shot cos of the way he fauight against Santos because Floyd wasn't exactly convincing against Castillo was he?
All I'm saying is that you can say Margarito is overated when he is beaten by at least a B+ fighter, personally if he can't get a Mosely/Mayweather/Hatton/Winky then I'd love to see him fight Kassim Ouma. That would be a terrific fioght because Kassim could very conceivably box him for 12 rounds straight, but also has a slight vunerability in his chin, thus giving us a Bull vs Matador style fight which I love to watch, very ala Sam Peter vs Wlad but without the height difference.

Excellent points CC. The only thing I disagree with is going up to 154,all the big fights are at 147 and I'd prefer him to stay there and fight dangermen like Collazo,Quintana etc etc. He is headlining December 2 with Cotto so that's a chance for Tony to gain even more exposure.

So Margarito against Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, Alex Garcia, Ike Quartey, Vernon Forrest or Spinks wouldn't be big fights at 154? All there is at 147 is Mayweather. And maybe Quintana. The real big fights are at 154.

Wright is not 154 and if these other fighters you mentioned want Margarito so badly they should move down to fight him like Clottey has done.

Right now I have a feeling that Hatton is a bigger draw than Spinks, Margarito a bigger draw than Ouma, Colazzo, Williams and Baldomir as big as Quartey, Cintron a bigger draw than Forest, Quintana and Berto are a bigger draw than Garcia.

[maracho]

To whoever said Tony has signed to fight Cosme Rivera....errr,that fight has yet to be made and it is a mandatory although I hope he does not take it. It looks like Tony will be fighting Clottey which would be another dangerous match as Clottey was beating the current "man" Baldomir easily until he was DQed.
And to whoever said you pay your dues,I suggest you go and check your history about Margarito,pro since 15,faced everyone he can etc etc,that's paying your dues.

To people who say he's overated, he hasn't even had a chance to prove himself against the elite, don't tell me about he doesn't deserve his shot cos of the way he fauight against Santos because Floyd wasn't exactly convincing against Castillo was he?
All I'm saying is that you can say Margarito is overated when he is beaten by at least a B+ fighter, personally if he can't get a Mosely/Mayweather/Hatton/Winky then I'd love to see him fight Kassim Ouma. That would be a terrific fioght because Kassim could very conceivably box him for 12 rounds straight, but also has a slight vunerability in his chin, thus giving us a Bull vs Matador style fight which I love to watch, very ala Sam Peter vs Wlad but without the height difference.

Excellent points CC. The only thing I disagree with is going up to 154,all the big fights are at 147 and I'd prefer him to stay there and fight dangermen like Collazo,Quintana etc etc. He is headlining December 2 with Cotto so that's a chance for Tony to gain even more exposure.

I said Margarito had signed to fight Rivera... sorry was meaning talked about fighting Rivera, who gives a sh*t if he's a mandatory, belts don't mean S***. Should have fought Wright & tried to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

I totally disagree because if mandatories were inforced by a more powerful commision then guys like Mayweather wouldn't be able skate through all the devisions and would be forced to fight the toughest competition. It seems that in most sports winners eventually face other winners for ONE championship and the managers and cable networks have nothing to sat about it.

I totally disagree because if you don't fight an underseving mandatory they strip your bogus title, most fighters want to fight the best so why should they fear having a crap belt taken from them because they wanna fight a top guy & someone the fans wanna see them fight.

I believe that promoters should remain promoting any fight they want but I also believe that there needs to be more commisional structure that forces unification as most promoters and fighters "claim" to want. This would also take care of less desirable mandatories.

[maracho]

To whoever said Tony has signed to fight Cosme Rivera....errr,that fight has yet to be made and it is a mandatory although I hope he does not take it. It looks like Tony will be fighting Clottey which would be another dangerous match as Clottey was beating the current "man" Baldomir easily until he was DQed.
And to whoever said you pay your dues,I suggest you go and check your history about Margarito,pro since 15,faced everyone he can etc etc,that's paying your dues.

Clottey looked unimpressive last night. A B fighter, maybe a B+. Margarito ought to beat him, but it wouldn't prove much if he did. I'd much rather see him against Quintana or Collazzo, or to go up to 154 and fight people his own size.

This statement is pure "grabbing at straws" for Margarito has been fighting at this weight for years and has never had any problems making that weight.

He is trying to make a statement at that weight and the one above it as well but everyone is ducking him including Judah, Vargas, PBF, Wright, Baldomir,etc.... --Just read the boxing magazines announcers and other boxers and face reality.

Margarito is after Quintana but Quinata also has an excuse and claims he is weighting to fight Hatton but Hatton who already has a fight with Urkal. http://foro.univision.com/univision/...ssage.id=13092

No one wants to see Margarito fight either of the Rivers and I also agree that he should fight Williams, Quintana and Clottey who in my opinion would be as or more interesting to watch than mayweather or most of the boxers mentioned above.

[El Gamo]

I totally disagree,like I stated earlier,a win over Clottey would be impressive for the simple fact that Clottey was beating Badlomir until being DQ'ed and Baldomir is right/wrong,seen as the man at 147. Quintana has a win over Joel Julio which was impressive too so I'd like to see that fight too.
Actually Margarito bulks up to get to 154,he doesn't struggle to make 147 at all and yes the big fights are at 147:Cotto,Baldo,Floyd,Hatton,Collazo etc etc
At 154,there is Rivera,Ouma and a couple of others but I'd prefer to see the figts at 147..

[bigragu]

OK. He wants to fight Winky, and Wright says give me more money then the 4 million Arum offered. Arum offers Floyd 8 million and Floyd says know so Arum withdraws everything...why DIDN'T he just offer the 8 million to Wright?

Isn't Wright co-promo-ing with Oscar now? Yep.

Watch how many fighters Arum turns down & uses that excuse with Margarito's best interests in hand.

Total douche bag.

Yeah.....Arum is just like King.....they are total blowhards when every one is quiet then when people step up and accept the challenge they retract and accuse or slander/discredit those individuals.....F*** Arum..... and F*** King while I'm at it....

[Kev]

I totally disagree,like I stated earlier,a win over Clottey would be impressive for the simple fact that Clottey was beating Badlomir until being DQ'ed and Baldomir is right/wrong,seen as the man at 147. Quintana has a win over Joel Julio which was impressive too so I'd like to see that fight too.
Actually Margarito bulks up to get to 154,he doesn't struggle to make 147 at all and yes the big fights are at 147:Cotto,Baldo,Floyd,Hatton,Collazo etc etc
At 154,there is Rivera,Ouma and a couple of others but I'd prefer to see the figts at 147..

Clottely was beating Baldomir (we assume has anyone ever seen this fight?) 7 freakin years ago Game.

Jones was Hopkins and Toney 7 years ago, you fancy his chances now?

[bigragu]

I totally disagree,like I stated earlier,a win over Clottey would be impressive for the simple fact that Clottey was beating Badlomir until being DQ'ed and Baldomir is right/wrong,seen as the man at 147. Quintana has a win over Joel Julio which was impressive too so I'd like to see that fight too.
Actually Margarito bulks up to get to 154,he doesn't struggle to make 147 at all and yes the big fights are at 147:Cotto,Baldo,Floyd,Hatton,Collazo etc etc
At 154,there is Rivera,Ouma and a couple of others but I'd prefer to see the figts at 147..

yes a win over clottey would help secure those bigger fights for Margarito...of course he would have to beat Clottey and that has yet to be seen...

[shza]

Clottely was beating Baldomir (we assume has anyone ever seen this fight?) 7 freakin years ago Game.

Jones was Hopkins and Toney 7 years ago, you fancy his chances now?

CC. And I'll just say it again--Clottey looked totally unimpressive on Saturday night. That would be just this past Saturday--2 days ago. Anyone who's top 5-10 in the division ought to beat him pretty handily. Would prove nothing if Margarito fought/beat him.

[sanj16]

To whoever said Tony has signed to fight Cosme Rivera....errr,that fight has yet to be made and it is a mandatory although I hope he does not take it. It looks like Tony will be fighting Clottey which would be another dangerous match as Clottey was beating the current "man" Baldomir easily until he was DQed.
And to whoever said you pay your dues,I suggest you go and check your history about Margarito,pro since 15,faced everyone he can etc etc,that's paying your dues.

To people who say he's overated, he hasn't even had a chance to prove himself against the elite, don't tell me about he doesn't deserve his shot cos of the way he fauight against Santos because Floyd wasn't exactly convincing against Castillo was he?
All I'm saying is that you can say Margarito is overated when he is beaten by at least a B+ fighter, personally if he can't get a Mosely/Mayweather/Hatton/Winky then I'd love to see him fight Kassim Ouma. That would be a terrific fioght because Kassim could very conceivably box him for 12 rounds straight, but also has a slight vunerability in his chin, thus giving us a Bull vs Matador style fight which I love to watch, very ala Sam Peter vs Wlad but without the height difference.

Excellent points CC. The only thing I disagree with is going up to 154,all the big fights are at 147 and I'd prefer him to stay there and fight dangermen like Collazo,Quintana etc etc. He is headlining December 2 with Cotto so that's a chance for Tony to gain even more exposure.

So Margarito against Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, Alex Garcia, Ike Quartey, Vernon Forrest or Spinks wouldn't be big fights at 154? All there is at 147 is Mayweather. And maybe Quintana. The real big fights are at 154.

Wright is not 154 and if these other fighters you mentioned want Margarito so badly they should move down to fight him like Clottey has done.

Right now I have a feeling that Hatton is a bigger draw than Spinks, Margarito a bigger draw than Ouma, Colazzo, Williams and Baldomir as big as Quartey, Cintron a bigger draw than Forest, Quintana and Berto are a bigger draw than Garcia.

Why should they move down, apparently it was Margarito how was willing to fight anybody but everybody was too scared. Now we are beginning to get a list of fights that he has turned down for one reason or another.
I think it is becoming "Margarito will fight anybody, as long as he agree's to fight them!"

[shza]

Right now I have a feeling that Hatton is a bigger draw than Spinks, Margarito a bigger draw than Ouma, Colazzo, Williams and Baldomir as big as Quartey, Cintron a bigger draw than Forest, Quintana and Berto are a bigger draw than Garcia.

Hatton is probably a bigger draw than Spinks, Margarito and Ouma are probably about the same, and Quintana/Berto/Garcia are all pretty equally not much of a draw.

I think you're wrong on the others:

Quartey is a WAY bigger draw than Colazzo (known to most only for the Hatton fight), Williams (a prospect who has beaten even less good fighters than Margarito) or Baldomir (who is sturdy but not exciting, and was completely unknown until a year ago);

Forest is a way bigger draw than Cintron--Forest beat Mosely twice (sure, it was another time, but people know him because of it), whereas most people have never heard of Cintron or seen him fight.