Did Ray Leonard avoid Aaron Pryor?

[ICB]

im sorry but i dont think hagler won the fight everybody has different opinions i think hagler gave away first 4 rounds and i dont think hagler won next 7 or 8 rounds either an you said nobody had leonard winning the fight ?? i think more people had him winning than losing

[BoxingCoachBW]

He could have fought Tommy Hearns when Tommy wanted the fight and he would have had a shorter career, instead he ducks Tommy for 5 years before he finally gets the right money and Tommy is out of his prime...

Coach to be fair they were BOTH VERY out of their prime

I felt that his win over Hagler was what brought a huge black eye to the sport, Hagler was the only one that seriously worked to win that fight....SRL waited till the last 30 seconds of each round to do his work....

So you don't blame Hagler at all for giving the first 3 rounds away.. if he had won 2 of those first 3 rounds he'd still be champ but he decided to fight orthodox for the majority of them. It aint Leonards fault for taking advantage of what Hagler wasn't doing.

Just to be clear....

When I say 5 years, I mean it as a hypothetical statement when it somes to Tommy and SRL...

I only mean that SRL made everyone wait till he got the money right to fight Tommy...Like I said, he was about making that Payday, while others were just wanting to fight....

[Galaxy]

im sorry but i dont think hagler won the fight everybody has different opinions i think hagler gave away first 4 rounds and i dont think hagler won next 7 or 8 rounds either an you said nobody had leonard winning the fight ?? i think more people had him winning than losing

Yeah bro I had Leonard winning that fight, I lost a lot of respect for Hagler after that fight & still til today he holds a lot of bitterness towards Leonard. Leonard didn't score the fight! Hagler is a sore loser & has shown his bad sportsmanship!!!

[cockey cockney]

im sorry but i dont think hagler won the fight everybody has different opinions i think hagler gave away first 4 rounds and i dont think hagler won next 7 or 8 rounds either an you said nobody had leonard winning the fight ?? i think more people had him winning than losing

Yeah bro I had Leonard winning that fight, I lost a lot of respect for Hagler after that fight & still til today he holds a lot of bitterness towards Leonard. Leonard didn't score the fight! Hagler is a sore loser & has shown his bad sportsmanship!!!

Nail on the head mate.

[SimonH]

I loathe Leonard and like The Hawk; but there is no way Leonard avoided this fight...

Timing made this fight impossible.

Pryor only became viable as a Leonard opponent post ArguelloI, and by that time Leonard had retired, and Pryor was only a year away from damaging his eye and pretty much ending his 'world class' career himself.

[Majesty]

I loathe Leonard and like The Hawk; but there is no way Leonard avoided this fight...

Timing made this fight impossible.

Pryor only became viable as a Leonard opponent post ArguelloI, and by that time Leonard had retired, and Pryor was only a year away from damaging his eye and pretty much ending his 'world class' career himself.

Who damaged his eye? Was THAT why he got knocked out because he was blind in one eye?

[SimonH]

I loathe Leonard and like The Hawk; but there is no way Leonard avoided this fight...

Timing made this fight impossible.

Pryor only became viable as a Leonard opponent post ArguelloI, and by that time Leonard had retired, and Pryor was only a year away from damaging his eye and pretty much ending his 'world class' career himself.

Who damaged his eye? Was THAT why he got knocked out because he was blind in one eye?

He injured his eye in sparring for the Arguello rematch, kept it quiet and retired after the fight... but then the demons really kicked in

This article I wrote explains it:

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,33999.0.html

[Majesty]

I loathe Leonard and like The Hawk; but there is no way Leonard avoided this fight...

Timing made this fight impossible.

Pryor only became viable as a Leonard opponent post ArguelloI, and by that time Leonard had retired, and Pryor was only a year away from damaging his eye and pretty much ending his 'world class' career himself.

Who damaged his eye? Was THAT why he got knocked out because he was blind in one eye?

He injured his eye in sparring for the Arguello rematch, kept it quiet and retired after the fight... but then the demons really kicked in

This article I wrote explains it:

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,33999.0.html

Very good article. But I don't get the Pryor making a cross thing, could you explain that to me?

[SimonH]

I loathe Leonard and like The Hawk; but there is no way Leonard avoided this fight...

Timing made this fight impossible.

Pryor only became viable as a Leonard opponent post ArguelloI, and by that time Leonard had retired, and Pryor was only a year away from damaging his eye and pretty much ending his 'world class' career himself.

Who damaged his eye? Was THAT why he got knocked out because he was blind in one eye?

He injured his eye in sparring for the Arguello rematch, kept it quiet and retired after the fight... but then the demons really kicked in

This article I wrote explains it:

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,33999.0.html

Very good article. But I don't get the Pryor making a cross thing, could you explain that to me?

He was on Crack at the time!

I think that is the best reason I can come up with...

He said the same thing; more articulately:

"It was a Manifestation of the influence of drugs I was taking."

[Majesty]

so when he was stopped on his feet he put his feet together and the held his arms out like a cross? Or did he lay on the ground?

[SimonH]

so when he was stopped on his feet he put his feet together and the held his arms out like a cross? Or did he lay on the ground?

No, he crossed his forearms in the shape of the cross

[Majesty]

was this before or after he was stopped or was it during it? So the ref waves the fight over and Pryor makes his forearms like a cross? You saw it? then what happened?

[SimonH]

was this before or after he was stopped or was it during it? So the ref waves the fight over and Pryor makes his forearms like a cross? You saw it? then what happened?

I have seen film of the stoppage of the Young fight:

He made the cross whilst on his feet, the ref continued to count him out whilst he was on his feet.

[Majesty]

oh I get it. Was he knocked down?

So he got up and had the cross with his arms as the ref counted him out? if that was the case then I'm glad the fight was stopped.

[SimonH]

oh I get it. Was he knocked down?

So he got up and had the cross with his arms as the ref counted him out? if that was the case then I'm glad the fight was stopped.

He took a right hand and went down on his knee, got up, made the sign as the ref continued the count...