There is a message there regarding the former Soviet Union boxers, especially the heaveyweights. What do you think are the tangibles? Is it a myth, or is there something to the mystical strength, tenaciousness and focus which the world saw against Napoleon and Hitler when they got caught in that frozen land, and by those kind of men? What do you think? Are they just hungry? By the way, their opera singers and ballet dancers are tremendous and vastly superior to the West's! To attribute it (i.e., the success) to amateur training vis a vis the American's, or UK's, is too simplistic. What, then, is the success of the Eastern European fighter.