How does Mayweather Jr do against some past greats?

[gyrokai]

bilbo (or is it Dildo), bugger off!

hahaha ! This is turning ugly now!

[Lords Gym]

how you gonna disrespect a man of 69 years ? Remember when the veteran talk , its the wise one that listen !

[tedsares]

Lords Gym, I do believe you have the beat.

[tedsares]

Gyrokai, not really. I like to engage; that's all. That said, I need to have a glass of warm milk and turn in. After all, geezers need their rest.

[tedsares]

I recently wrote an article for Saddoboxing about how PBF would do agaisnt the elite of the 80's. After The supporting narrative, I concluded as follows:

PBF vs. SRL: SRL by UD

PBF vs. Thomas Hearns: Hearns by UD or SD

PBF vs. Duran: PBF by UD

PBF vs. Arguello: PBF by UD

PBF vs. Pryor: Draw

Good read.

I like the post/article.

As far as it goes though...I think that SRL would have handed Floyd his a**.

I think that Hearns would have lost though.

Duran would have been an all out war...but I see Floyd frustrating him & staying on the back foot the majority of the night...same for Arguello...but both of them could crack...so who knows.

The main factor is that I am still not sold at Floyd's abilities to hurt or maybe be hurt at these higher weight classes that he is moving in to.

I think Mayweather beats any of the guys you mentioned... Also NOBODY would give Mayweather a brutal beating from what I've seen so far from his career... NOBODY his speed, defense are far to good for anybody to land more than the odd shot on him.

Disagree...Mayweather appears unbeatable today...but by yesteryears standards...there are a few that I'd pick to batter my guy.

Yeah man, you could really say that. Baldomir is the truth! If Baldo or Gatti can't do it ..... nobody can.

Wow...to be a "Boxing Analyst Extraordinaire" you sure are short sighted...but I'll bet your'e a Margarito fan first...& that makes all the sense in the world.

Floyd's beaten a lot better than Gatti & Baldomir...but you forgot that...conviniently...right.

Heh heh heh. Kid's these days.

in 15 rounds all of them would of k.o little pretty boy...floyd doesn't have the heart of the likes of srl...floyd is talented but back in the 80s he would of got murdered...guys back then comes to finish their oppenent...pretty boy floyd in 15 rounds would go through hell and noun of the elite in the 80s would be content with a ud not like pbf who claims atg statues but doesn't take risk like the true all time greats...

Oh please. As usual...so completely biased that you can't see past the nose on your own face.

Floyd spars 15 to 20 rounds straight through at a time & switches up partners through the set. I think that you just don't know.

As far as taking risks...Floyd has taken risks & just because an opposing fan's fighter doesn't make it to the ring with Floyd...doesn't men that that fighter is any more unbeatable than the other 37 men that he's dispatched.

Testing

[tedsares]

Finally, I figured out how to do thew quote.

[Realitycheck77]

How on earth would Floyd Jnr beat Sugar Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran?

You must be on another planet.

Sugar would have a little more skill and movement and wins a close decision and Duran after he had thumbed Floyd a few times and elbowed him would wear him down, catch up with him later in the fight, Floyd would think he’s been in with a Tiger and Duran wins a close decision, don't forget in his prime Duran was relentless for a full 15 rounds - non stop.

I know Floyd’s a very good boxer but some people in this forum a putting him on this massive pedestal, he’s not done enough in my eyes to even be mentioned in the same breath as Sugar Ray or Duran.

[tedsares]

How on earth would Floyd Jnr beat Sugar Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran?

You must be on another planet.

This is Uranus, isn't it?

[ICB]

How on earth would Floyd Jnr beat Sugar Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran?

You must be on another planet.

This is Uranus, isn't it?

like i said aaron pryor too relentless for floyd plus he was very good boxer when he wanted to be

duran would walk right through mayweathers shots and he would catch him sooner or later but i see mayweather maybe getting decision against duran

as for hearns i think hearns kos floyd in middlerounds hearns is taller and stronger and has long reach which would keep mayweather on outside and he would eventually land that classic right and goodbye floyd

arguello i can see floyd getting very close decision over arguello

and as for ray leonard i see leonard getting decision over mayweather but very hard nights work though

[tedsares]

How on earth would Floyd Jnr beat Sugar Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran?

You must be on another planet.

This is Uranus, isn't it?

like i said aaron pryor too relentless for floyd plus he was very good boxer when he wanted to be

duran would walk right through mayweathers shots and he would catch him sooner or later but i see mayweather maybe getting decision against duran

as for hearns i think hearns kos floyd in middlerounds hearns is taller and stronger and has long reach which would keep mayweather on outside and he would eventually land that classic right and goodbye floyd

arguello i can see floyd getting very close decision over arguello

and as for ray leonard i see leonard getting decision over mayweather but very hard nights work though

Good stuff. No argument with it.

[Realitycheck77]

Look at Castillio v Mayweather 1 and you tell me Duran loses.

After thinking about it both fighters in there prime, I believe Duran would take Mayweather's heart and spit it out and stop Maywaether in the 11th - no question.

[Realitycheck77]

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I totally agree with you COUNTER, if Castillo could do that imagine what Duran would do to him, I said on another topic that after Duran had given Floyd a few low blows, elbows and thumbs, Floyd would think he's been in with a Tiger and Duran wins a close decision, but after some consideration I think I've been genorous to Floyd and all the people in this Forum that think he's Great, what he's Great because he (Floyd says so) I'm now certain that Duran would destroy him, he would take away his heart and stop "pretty boy" in the 11th round.

The word Greatness is used so out of context these days, FLOYD IS GOOD BUT NOT GREAT!

[El Kabong]

OMG, Ray Robinson had one good punch against Gene Fulmer, that wasn't his average fight... And IT WAS A LEFT hook so maybe you should study up. Also I never commented on his punch power, which for the most part was more him either landing a 8 punch combination on a defenseless fighter or wearing down an opponent like he did Lamotta in their last fight. Robinson did have good footwork, and I said that, but that was his only source of defense either than good reflexes... him, Leonard weren't any better than Roy Jones Jr. in that sense only Ray was slower than Roy, and had way less power. Anyways, I don't believe that Robinson could knock out Floyd with one punch because he would never catch him so open. And I think Judah causes more problems stylewise than Duran because he is so fast, and a skilled boxer, and can crack(though DUran hit harder than Judah).

Hey princess I know it was a left hook that dropped Fullmer...I was saying not only did he have 1 punch power he had extremely fast hands and threw GREAT combinations. How you can say Ray Robinson never catches Floyd is beyond me and shows me that you know jack shit about Robinson.

Ray Leonard was able to withstand Tommy Hearns and Marvin Hagler's power and I think he would beat the shit out of Floyd Mayweather Jr. who NEVER stood up to a brawler as good as those guys and he runs and Ray being as fast as he is and as good as he is at cutting off the ring Ray would dominate him.

Judah was faster than Duran but Duran could make ANYONE brawl and I think his mental toughness draws Floyd into a brawl or else Floyd runs like a little bitch.


I'll tell you this running away doesn't make a great fighter....people think it's contradictory for me to say that about Floyd and yet like Willie Pep but if you look at Pep he took challenges on and used all his skill to win, Floyd uses his skill but he uses his legs more

[OumaFan]

Hearns would be such a difficult matchup for PBF IMO. More so than Leonard or Duran. People forget that he was very fast, maybe not as fast as PBF but Floyd's slown down some at 147 IMO. And that long jab would make it hard for PBF to use the pull counter right. That's maybe the best thing Floyd does, he makes some guys just tentative about throwing the jab cause they're worried about the right hand coming right back over it. But with that long, quick jab it would be harder for Floyd to be in range to do that.

Floyd is a better inside fighter but he'd have to get there, and even though he's great defensively he'd take some right hands on the way in and its hard to tell if he'd be able to take them. I have my doubts that he would be able too. And on the other hand even though people think of Hearns as chinny I definitely don't see Floyd being able to hurt him. Floyd would have to be perfect every single round.

I agree in some respects that fans tend to glorify older fighters, Floyd will be a much better fighter 20 years after he's retired, no doubt, he'll be put on a pedestal. Hearns is just a bad matchup though.

[El Kabong]

.....I think Ricardo Mayorga at 147 would have been a horrible matchup for him.

and no Hulk I ain't playing around....I think his balls to the wall style and power and his chin would have been very tough for Floyd to cope with.