Valuev he ain't no joke!

[Lords Gym]

sheeeeeeeeeeet mate.. they all bums... snuff queens ! couldn’t brake a sack a shit. the most padded record in the history of the HW division belongs to Valuve...and in that padded shit record he has had several gift dec thus he really has some losses in there . always fighting in that hometown gift decision bullshit .. Germany is the worst. Jesus.. Its like the whole country is New Jersey crocked as a mutherfucker ! . . shit.. lets get real !!! Cool click by the way, I don't mean to sound like an asshole.. I have had one to many screwdrivers !

[Rotten Apple]

Believe it or not, I\'m a Valuev fan. I think he\'s improved and is good for the sport. He\'s also good hearted giant. How can you not root for him?

[Lords Gym]

Believe it or not, I\'m a Valuev fan. I think he\'s improved and is good for the sport. He\'s also good hearted giant. How can you not root for him?

I got nothing against the man personally I don't know him, but good for the sport?? , no way brother. at least IMO . he makes for an awkward boring watch in my opinion. Its ike Pro wrestling,, he is just to big, nobody can stay true to form and win. Everyone has to lunge and look ugly just to try and hit the guy, horrible to watch.

[Punisher136]

sheeeeeeeeeeet mate.. they all bums... snuff queens ! couldn’t brake a sack a S***. the most padded record in the history of the HW division belongs to Valuve...and in that padded S*** record he has had several gift dec thus he really has some losses in there . always fighting in that hometown gift decision bullshit .. Germany is the worst. Jesus.. Its like the whole country is New Jersey crocked as a mutherfucker ! . . S***.. lets get real !!! Cool click by the way, I don't mean to sound like an asshole.. I have had one to many screwdrivers !

So far i'd say yes but probably the all-time best padded record is don steele's (his win/ko ratio is a joke). As for valuev he is definitely a joke. All he has is his own hugeness as an advantage. He has fought nothing but bums. And don't try to play the game where you take one of valuev's opponents and connect the dots to make them seem some what legit. Oh his opponent beat this guy who split with this guy and he got ktfo by an ok fighter there for hes not a total bum. Wtf is that!?

[Wacko3205]

In the end...what it all boils down to for me concerning Valuev is that he's been improving as has his opposition.

He's still undefeated & he's proven that he's more than just a side show act.

Honestly...I think that what he's done has been an accomplishment no matter how one tries to tear down his record or wins. He's knocked out 33 or 34 of the 45 men that he's fought & that's no easy thing to accomplish.

I'll be impressed if he TKO's McCline in less than 10, it took Wlad that long, so let's see what happens.

The man (McCline) lost recently to Zuri Lawrence and has been taken the distance by Rob Calloway and Marcus Mcgee and you'll be impress with a victory over him? I consider Barrett to be a better fight than McCline. So I don't see how his competition has been improving.

If you can't see the difference in his oppositing of late compared to the fluff that he was fighting coming up...then your'e blinded by your own hate & constant need to be bitter.

I'll be taking my now. Heh heh heh.

If you can't see that there are better and more deserving opposition out there than McCline than your blinded by your hairy lust for the man. And take your sc.

This is what often amuses me about your rantings & ravings...

There's not one sentence in any of my posts that says anything PERIOD about the fact that McCline is the better and more deserving opposition...is there.

Stop reaching...just read what I said.

Quite simply I have stated that he's still undefeated, he's proven that he's more than just a side show act, & that is an accomplishment. If you see his early fights & the way that he fought...you can see that he's improving. Not just anyone can go out there & throw combinations & make them stick. He's relying on his power less & he's getting in with boxers now...established ones that either are or were champs.

The big guy's doing just fine. Let's see if he can hang with someone like McCline & then maybe Maskaev or one of the other biggies.

Again, stop reaching...just read what I said & quit trying to pull rabbits outta your own ass. Oh...& have a right back.

[landmine950]

sheeeeeeeeeeet mate.. they all bums... snuff queens ! couldn’t brake a sack a S***. the most padded record in the history of the HW division belongs to Valuve...and in that padded S*** record he has had several gift dec thus he really has some losses in there . always fighting in that hometown gift decision bullshit .. Germany is the worst. Jesus.. Its like the whole country is New Jersey crocked as a mutherfucker ! . . S***.. lets get real !!! Cool click by the way, I don't mean to sound like an asshole.. I have had one to many screwdrivers !

So far i'd say yes but probably the all-time best padded record is don steele's (his win/ko ratio is a joke). As for valuev he is definitely a joke. All he has is his own hugeness as an advantage. He has fought nothing but bums. And don't try to play the game where you take one of valuev's opponents and connect the dots to make them seem some what legit. Oh his opponent beat this guy who split with this guy and he got ktfo by an ok fighter there for hes not a total bum. Wtf is that!?

Well how the hell else CAN you compare a guy??
real his F#CKIN tea leaves?
Ya look at the guy and who he fought and how he did.
really!! what the f#ck else is there?? Am i missing something here?

[Violent Demise]

In the end...what it all boils down to for me concerning Valuev is that he's been improving as has his opposition.

He's still undefeated & he's proven that he's more than just a side show act.

Honestly...I think that what he's done has been an accomplishment no matter how one tries to tear down his record or wins. He's knocked out 33 or 34 of the 45 men that he's fought & that's no easy thing to accomplish.

I'll be impressed if he TKO's McCline in less than 10, it took Wlad that long, so let's see what happens.

The man (McCline) lost recently to Zuri Lawrence and has been taken the distance by Rob Calloway and Marcus Mcgee and you'll be impress with a victory over him? I consider Barrett to be a better fight than McCline. So I don't see how his competition has been improving.

If you can't see the difference in his oppositing of late compared to the fluff that he was fighting coming up...then your'e blinded by your own hate & constant need to be bitter.

I'll be taking my now. Heh heh heh.

If you can't see that there are better and more deserving opposition out there than McCline than your blinded by your hairy lust for the man. And take your sc.

This is what often amuses me about your rantings & ravings...

There's not one sentence in any of my posts that says anything PERIOD about the fact that McCline is the better and more deserving opposition...is there.

Stop reaching...just read what I said.

Quite simply I have stated that he's still undefeated, he's proven that he's more than just a side show act, & that is an accomplishment. If you see his early fights & the way that he fought...you can see that he's improving. Not just anyone can go out there & throw combinations & make them stick. He's relying on his power less & he's getting in with boxers now...established ones that either are or were champs.

The big guy's doing just fine. Let's see if he can hang with someone like McCline & then maybe Maskaev or one of the other biggies.

Again, stop reaching...just read what I said & quit trying to pull rabbits outta your own ass. Oh...& have a right back.

You must of been a break dancer in your youth Wack. Cuz you dance around questions pretty good. How the hell has he proven he's more than a sideshow? By getting gift wins (Donald, Ruiz)? By fighting smaller guys that put up no fight, what' s so ever (Beck, Etienne)? I consider Barrett (and so do a lot of people) to be a better fighter than McCline. So how's is it that his opposition has been improving? It hasn't. What former champ has he faced? The only difference is that Don King has put him in the publics view. That's it. He's a joke. I expected a lot more out of you Wack. Now that I think about it. No I didn't. Take your (what's becoming a daily thing) sc.

[Wacko3205]

You must of been a break dancer in your youth Wack. Cuz you dance around questions pretty good. How the hell has he proven he's more than a sideshow? By getting gift wins (Donald, Ruiz)? By fighting smaller guys that put up no fight, what' s so ever (Beck, Etienne)? I consider Barrett (and so do a lot of people) to be a better fighter than McCline. So how's is it that his opposition has been improving? It hasn't. What former champ has he faced? The only difference is that Don King has put him in the publics view. That's it. He's a joke. I expected a lot more out of you Wack. Now that I think about it. No I didn't. Take your (what's becoming a daily thing) sc.

Everyone's smaller compared to him & the man has improved since he started fighting better fighters.

I never danced around any questions...I think I laid that out there pretty clearly for you...but again...as I said...your bitterness blinds you.

You expected more from me. Oh boo-hoo. Thanks for the & I'm glad that I could disappoint you again. You can have your saddy in another 24 hours.

[Wacko3205]

Never mind...it's be 24 hours.

Take your ...believe you me...youv'e earned it.

[TheChosenOne]

he is big. thats about it, he barley be ruiz..... that says alot!

[Violent Demise]

You must of been a break dancer in your youth Wack. Cuz you dance around questions pretty good. How the hell has he proven he's more than a sideshow? By getting gift wins (Donald, Ruiz)? By fighting smaller guys that put up no fight, what' s so ever (Beck, Etienne)? I consider Barrett (and so do a lot of people) to be a better fighter than McCline. So how's is it that his opposition has been improving? It hasn't. What former champ has he faced? The only difference is that Don King has put him in the publics view. That's it. He's a joke. I expected a lot more out of you Wack. Now that I think about it. No I didn't. Take your (what's becoming a daily thing) sc.

Everyone's smaller compared to him & the man has improved since he started fighting better fighters.

I never danced around any questions...I think I laid that out there pretty clearly for you...but again...as I said...your bitterness blinds you.

You expected more from me. Oh boo-hoo. Thanks for the & I'm glad that I could disappoint you again. You can have your saddy in another 24 hours.

Dance, boy. Dance. What former champions has he faced? How has he improved? How has his competition improved? Dance.

[Wacko3205]

You must of been a break dancer in your youth Wack. Cuz you dance around questions pretty good. How the hell has he proven he's more than a sideshow? By getting gift wins (Donald, Ruiz)? By fighting smaller guys that put up no fight, what' s so ever (Beck, Etienne)? I consider Barrett (and so do a lot of people) to be a better fighter than McCline. So how's is it that his opposition has been improving? It hasn't. What former champ has he faced? The only difference is that Don King has put him in the publics view. That's it. He's a joke. I expected a lot more out of you Wack. Now that I think about it. No I didn't. Take your (what's becoming a daily thing) sc.

Everyone's smaller compared to him & the man has improved since he started fighting better fighters.

I never danced around any questions...I think I laid that out there pretty clearly for you...but again...as I said...your bitterness blinds you.

You expected more from me. Oh boo-hoo. Thanks for the & I'm glad that I could disappoint you again. You can have your saddy in another 24 hours.

Dance, boy. Dance. What former champions has he faced? How has he improved? How has his competition improved? Dance.

Heh heh heh.

Again...as I said...since you obviously are lacking the understanding of what it means to improve & what it means to fight better opposition...you need to watch his early fights & then watch his fights against the fighters that he has fought recently. That will possibley help you understand how he & his competition has improved.

Former champions that he has faced? Vidoz, Beck, Etienne, Ruiz, Barrett, Donald, & soon enough McCline. Just because you either don't know or refuse to recognize the named fighters doesn't change the fact that they out matched another champ or contender to get their straps & won their championship straps.

Once agian...the fact remains that Valuev has proved to be more than just a side show act & he's also knocked a shitload of men out in the process. Also...once again...he's remained undefeated & he's been dropped & gotten up to pull out the win. I hate to keep repeating myself on this matter...but I'm trying to help you see past your hate.

Once again, anyone who has seen his early fights & the way that he fought knows that he's improved.

[cockey cockney]

You must of been a break dancer in your youth Wack. Cuz you dance around questions pretty good. How the hell has he proven he's more than a sideshow? By getting gift wins (Donald, Ruiz)? By fighting smaller guys that put up no fight, what' s so ever (Beck, Etienne)? I consider Barrett (and so do a lot of people) to be a better fighter than McCline. So how's is it that his opposition has been improving? It hasn't. What former champ has he faced? The only difference is that Don King has put him in the publics view. That's it. He's a joke. I expected a lot more out of you Wack. Now that I think about it. No I didn't. Take your (what's becoming a daily thing) sc.

Everyone's smaller compared to him & the man has improved since he started fighting better fighters.

I never danced around any questions...I think I laid that out there pretty clearly for you...but again...as I said...your bitterness blinds you.

You expected more from me. Oh boo-hoo. Thanks for the & I'm glad that I could disappoint you again. You can have your saddy in another 24 hours.

Dance, boy. Dance. What former champions has he faced? How has he improved? How has his competition improved? Dance.

Heh heh heh.

Again...as I said...since you obviously are lacking the understanding of what it means to improve & what it means to fight better opposition...you need to watch his early fights & then watch his fights against the fighters that he has fought recently. That will possibley help you understand how he & his competition has improved.

Former champions that he has faced? Vidoz, Beck, Etienne, Ruiz, Barrett, Donald, & soon enough McCline. Just because you either don't know or refuse to recognize the named fighters doesn't change the fact that they out matched another champ or contender to get their straps & won their championship straps.

Once agian...the fact remains that Valuev has proved to be more than just a side show act & he's also knocked a shitload of men out in the process. Also...once again...he's remained undefeated & he's been dropped & gotten up to pull out the win. I hate to keep repeating myself on this matter...but I'm trying to help you see past your hate.

Once again, anyone who has seen his early fights & the way that he fought knows that he's improved.

He has definitely improved, but IMO the bloke would be nothing in a good HW division, he is sooooooooooo lucky he was born when he was! Wladdy will knock his block off tho!

[Violent Demise]

You must of been a break dancer in your youth Wack. Cuz you dance around questions pretty good. How the hell has he proven he's more than a sideshow? By getting gift wins (Donald, Ruiz)? By fighting smaller guys that put up no fight, what' s so ever (Beck, Etienne)? I consider Barrett (and so do a lot of people) to be a better fighter than McCline. So how's is it that his opposition has been improving? It hasn't. What former champ has he faced? The only difference is that Don King has put him in the publics view. That's it. He's a joke. I expected a lot more out of you Wack. Now that I think about it. No I didn't. Take your (what's becoming a daily thing) sc.

Everyone's smaller compared to him & the man has improved since he started fighting better fighters.

I never danced around any questions...I think I laid that out there pretty clearly for you...but again...as I said...your bitterness blinds you.

You expected more from me. Oh boo-hoo. Thanks for the & I'm glad that I could disappoint you again. You can have your saddy in another 24 hours.

Dance, boy. Dance. What former champions has he faced? How has he improved? How has his competition improved? Dance.

Heh heh heh.

Again...as I said...since you obviously are lacking the understanding of what it means to improve & what it means to fight better opposition...you need to watch his early fights & then watch his fights against the fighters that he has fought recently. That will possibley help you understand how he & his competition has improved.

Former champions that he has faced? Vidoz, Beck, Etienne, Ruiz, Barrett, Donald, & soon enough McCline. Just because you either don't know or refuse to recognize the named fighters doesn't change the fact that they out matched another champ or contender to get their straps & won their championship straps.

Once agian...the fact remains that Valuev has proved to be more than just a side show act & he's also knocked a shitload of men out in the process. Also...once again...he's remained undefeated & he's been dropped & gotten up to pull out the win. I hate to keep repeating myself on this matter...but I'm trying to help you see past your hate.

Once again, anyone who has seen his early fights & the way that he fought knows that he's improved.

Ha, ha, ha. Talk about reaching. Except for Ruiz, what titles did these other guys hold? And please don't give me no bullshit like the USBA championship, WWE championship or BC Youth Cab Driver Championship. Quit embarrassing yourself trying to defend this guy. It's not worth it.

"Some you win. Some you fuckin lose" Dutch Schultz from the movie Hoodlum. Learn that line. It'll make your life easier, since you seem to lose a good amount of time.

[Wacko3205]

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You must of been a break dancer in your youth Wack. Cuz you dance around questions pretty good. How the hell has he proven he's more than a sideshow? By getting gift wins (Donald, Ruiz)? By fighting smaller guys that put up no fight, what' s so ever (Beck, Etienne)? I consider Barrett (and so do a lot of people) to be a better fighter than McCline. So how's is it that his opposition has been improving? It hasn't. What former champ has he faced? The only difference is that Don King has put him in the publics view. That's it. He's a joke. I expected a lot more out of you Wack. Now that I think about it. No I didn't. Take your (what's becoming a daily thing) sc.

Everyone's smaller compared to him & the man has improved since he started fighting better fighters.

I never danced around any questions...I think I laid that out there pretty clearly for you...but again...as I said...your bitterness blinds you.

You expected more from me. Oh boo-hoo. Thanks for the & I'm glad that I could disappoint you again. You can have your saddy in another 24 hours.

Dance, boy. Dance. What former champions has he faced? How has he improved? How has his competition improved? Dance.

Heh heh heh.

Again...as I said...since you obviously are lacking the understanding of what it means to improve & what it means to fight better opposition...you need to watch his early fights & then watch his fights against the fighters that he has fought recently. That will possibley help you understand how he & his competition has improved.

Former champions that he has faced? Vidoz, Beck, Etienne, Ruiz, Barrett, Donald, & soon enough McCline. Just because you either don't know or refuse to recognize the named fighters doesn't change the fact that they out matched another champ or contender to get their straps & won their championship straps.

Once agian...the fact remains that Valuev has proved to be more than just a side show act & he's also knocked a shitload of men out in the process. Also...once again...he's remained undefeated & he's been dropped & gotten up to pull out the win. I hate to keep repeating myself on this matter...but I'm trying to help you see past your hate.

Once again, anyone who has seen his early fights & the way that he fought knows that he's improved.

Ha, ha, ha. Talk about reaching. Except for Ruiz, what titles did these other guys hold? And please don't give me no bullshit like the USBA championship, WWE championship or BC Youth Cab Driver Championship. Quit embarrassing yourself trying to defend this guy. It's not worth it.

"Some you win. Some you F****** lose" Dutch Schultz from the movie Hoodlum. Learn that line. It'll make your life easier, since you seem to lose a good amount of time.

What's funny is that you use some fictional characters chump ass thug life lines to get your points across.

Okay tuff guy...your bitter ways & ridiculous points have made me have a change of heart. Please.

Unless your blind or just ignorant...Valuev has won fights & he's won them by knockout or decision...like him or not...that's a fact. The thing is...I aint even a fan of the guy...I'm just stating facts & saying that he deserves a chance just like anyone. The fact of the matter is...I have an opinion...& you have yours...you just don't know how to discuss like a grown up & get your points across without coming across as a complete hard ass that can only diss to try & win a discussion that's not really worth winning.

The only one embarrassing themselves is you, son. Now as far as the other titles that the men he beat had? IBA, IBF, WBA, & others I am sure...but I really don't have the time to research that...I just know that all those fighters held titles & he defeated them.

That old tired cliche' about Cab Driver Championships is what you should be embarrassed about. Have fun arguing & dancing with yourself over this one...the fact remains that he's undefeated & has beaten championship level fighters...I did not dancing my friend...just stated the facts...as I always do.

No wonder you don't like what I have to say..