Ricky Hatton To Be Stripped of IBF Title

[Violent Demise]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

It's a stay busy fight. Who should he be fighting? 3 months ago it was Quintana, now he stays busy with Urkal, in 3 more months Margarito (If he is still available) I don't see the problem still.

I guess he could fight Baldomir, he's free
He's got a date with Margarito already hopefully
PBF is busy at 154 with ODLH
Paul Williams is trying to negotiate with Margarito
Zab Judah, announced he was coming back after Urkal fight was inked
I guess Cintron is available
Gatti is facing retirement
Matthysse already has a fight scheduled
Sharmba Mitchell is available
Luis Collazo is fight Shane Mosley

So in the meantime while waiting for Margarito / Williams to pan out or not, he takes a shit fight.

I can see the argument that he could have tried for Cintron, that would be a worthwhile fight
his only other options are Baldomir and Mitchell at 147.

Cotto needs to spark Urkal within 5 to impress me.

Seeing as how he is staying busy while he may or may not have a big fight 3 months later, what's the big deal?

I don't get why you are playing the double standard card on me, I am not impressed with Cotto taking on Urkal, but by the same stroke most fighters on this level fight once every 5-6 months, Cotto is taking a fight in the middle of that time period.

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

I'll let you say it then

Cotto-Urkal is just as bad of a fight as Hatton-Urango.

Never said it wasn't. What's your point?

[Fenster]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

It's a stay busy fight. Who should he be fighting? 3 months ago it was Quintana, now he stays busy with Urkal, in 3 more months Margarito (If he is still available) I don't see the problem still.

I guess he could fight Baldomir, he's free
He's got a date with Margarito already hopefully
PBF is busy at 154 with ODLH
Paul Williams is trying to negotiate with Margarito
Zab Judah, announced he was coming back after Urkal fight was inked
I guess Cintron is available
Gatti is facing retirement
Matthysse already has a fight scheduled
Sharmba Mitchell is available
Luis Collazo is fight Shane Mosley

So in the meantime while waiting for Margarito / Williams to pan out or not, he takes a shit fight.

I can see the argument that he could have tried for Cintron, that would be a worthwhile fight
his only other options are Baldomir and Mitchell at 147.

Cotto needs to spark Urkal within 5 to impress me.

Seeing as how he is staying busy while he may or may not have a big fight 3 months later, what's the big deal?

I don't get why you are playing the double standard card on me, I am not impressed with Cotto taking on Urkal, but by the same stroke most fighters on this level fight once every 5-6 months, Cotto is taking a fight in the middle of that time period.

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

I'll let you say it then

Cotto-Urkal is just as bad of a fight as Hatton-Urango.

Never said it wasn't. What's your point?

Read quote below

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

What was checkmate? Who's they? Who's there?

[Violent Demise]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

It's a stay busy fight. Who should he be fighting? 3 months ago it was Quintana, now he stays busy with Urkal, in 3 more months Margarito (If he is still available) I don't see the problem still.

I guess he could fight Baldomir, he's free
He's got a date with Margarito already hopefully
PBF is busy at 154 with ODLH
Paul Williams is trying to negotiate with Margarito
Zab Judah, announced he was coming back after Urkal fight was inked
I guess Cintron is available
Gatti is facing retirement
Matthysse already has a fight scheduled
Sharmba Mitchell is available
Luis Collazo is fight Shane Mosley

So in the meantime while waiting for Margarito / Williams to pan out or not, he takes a shit fight.

I can see the argument that he could have tried for Cintron, that would be a worthwhile fight
his only other options are Baldomir and Mitchell at 147.

Cotto needs to spark Urkal within 5 to impress me.

Seeing as how he is staying busy while he may or may not have a big fight 3 months later, what's the big deal?

I don't get why you are playing the double standard card on me, I am not impressed with Cotto taking on Urkal, but by the same stroke most fighters on this level fight once every 5-6 months, Cotto is taking a fight in the middle of that time period.

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

I'll let you say it then

Cotto-Urkal is just as bad of a fight as Hatton-Urango.

Never said it wasn't. What's your point?

Read quote below

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

What was checkmate? Who's they? Who's there?

Whoever was the fool who said that Hatton rematching Collazo wouldn't of been a better career move than fighting Urango. Killer provided about 6 or 7 points that pretty much couldn't be countered. Checkmate. Game over. Game set. Match point. Whatever you want to call it. Now you understand?

[Fenster]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

It's a stay busy fight. Who should he be fighting? 3 months ago it was Quintana, now he stays busy with Urkal, in 3 more months Margarito (If he is still available) I don't see the problem still.

I guess he could fight Baldomir, he's free
He's got a date with Margarito already hopefully
PBF is busy at 154 with ODLH
Paul Williams is trying to negotiate with Margarito
Zab Judah, announced he was coming back after Urkal fight was inked
I guess Cintron is available
Gatti is facing retirement
Matthysse already has a fight scheduled
Sharmba Mitchell is available
Luis Collazo is fight Shane Mosley

So in the meantime while waiting for Margarito / Williams to pan out or not, he takes a shit fight.

I can see the argument that he could have tried for Cintron, that would be a worthwhile fight
his only other options are Baldomir and Mitchell at 147.

Cotto needs to spark Urkal within 5 to impress me.

Seeing as how he is staying busy while he may or may not have a big fight 3 months later, what's the big deal?

I don't get why you are playing the double standard card on me, I am not impressed with Cotto taking on Urkal, but by the same stroke most fighters on this level fight once every 5-6 months, Cotto is taking a fight in the middle of that time period.

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

I'll let you say it then

Cotto-Urkal is just as bad of a fight as Hatton-Urango.

Never said it wasn't. What's your point?

Read quote below

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

What was checkmate? Who's they? Who's there?

Whoever was the fool who said that Hatton rematching Collazo wouldn't of been a better career move than fighting Urango. Killer provided about 6 or 7 points that pretty much couldn't be countered. Checkmate. Game over. Game set. Match point. Whatever you want to call it. Now you understand?

OK, I understand, you mixed up your quotes, me and Killer were discussing something else.

As it goes Hatton rematching Collazo wouldn't of been a better career move than fighting Urango....Collazo might have beat him in the rematch

[Violent Demise]

Bloody hell!

If they had to destroy their comp to get respect being 1/8 and 1/12 shots Cotto being 1/100 is gonna have to look beyond AMAZING to impress.

You know Urkal isn't gonna show something special.

A two horse race that involves a 1/100 shot = Mismatch of epic proportions. It's a pointless shit fight.

It's a stay busy fight. Who should he be fighting? 3 months ago it was Quintana, now he stays busy with Urkal, in 3 more months Margarito (If he is still available) I don't see the problem still.

I guess he could fight Baldomir, he's free
He's got a date with Margarito already hopefully
PBF is busy at 154 with ODLH
Paul Williams is trying to negotiate with Margarito
Zab Judah, announced he was coming back after Urkal fight was inked
I guess Cintron is available
Gatti is facing retirement
Matthysse already has a fight scheduled
Sharmba Mitchell is available
Luis Collazo is fight Shane Mosley

So in the meantime while waiting for Margarito / Williams to pan out or not, he takes a shit fight.

I can see the argument that he could have tried for Cintron, that would be a worthwhile fight
his only other options are Baldomir and Mitchell at 147.

Cotto needs to spark Urkal within 5 to impress me.

Seeing as how he is staying busy while he may or may not have a big fight 3 months later, what's the big deal?

I don't get why you are playing the double standard card on me, I am not impressed with Cotto taking on Urkal, but by the same stroke most fighters on this level fight once every 5-6 months, Cotto is taking a fight in the middle of that time period.

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

I'll let you say it then

Cotto-Urkal is just as bad of a fight as Hatton-Urango.

Never said it wasn't. What's your point?

Read quote below

Why you still arguing with them carnal? It was checkmate awhile ago. They have nothing else say. There reaching so bad there about to pull a muscle.

What was checkmate? Who's they? Who's there?

Whoever was the fool who said that Hatton rematching Collazo wouldn't of been a better career move than fighting Urango. Killer provided about 6 or 7 points that pretty much couldn't be countered. Checkmate. Game over. Game set. Match point. Whatever you want to call it. Now you understand?

OK, I understand, you mixed up your quotes cause me and Killer were discussing something else.

As it goes Hatton rematching Collazo wouldn't of been a better career move than fighting Urango....Collazo might have beat him in the rematch

It took over 2,500 posts but you finally manage to make a good one. I'll even cc you for it.

[Sovereign]

bullshit this is a much worse fight than Hatton - Urango. I know Urango wasn't much, a one-dimensional plodder who's only strength is his strength, but he was young, hungry and undefeated. At this point in his career Urkal is a knackered journeyman who poses no threat to Cotto whatsoever.

Urkal is the sort of fighter that should be fighting Juan Urango to build his profile a bit. Cotto is the sort of fighter who should fight Ricky Hatton. Ricky is the champ and Cotto ought to have fought him for the title, but he thought otherwise. Boxing is so mixed up when you see Urango - Hatton and Cotto - Urkal.

I hate to break this to you but this a SPORT? Where's the sportsmanship in beating up Oktay Urkal? Where's the competition? there's no competetive factor to this fight whatsoever. If Cotto ends up losing then he should fucking retire coz there's no way anyone with any sort of class or calibre can lose to Oktay Urkal at age 37.

[jbirdy]

good points sovereign but you do know that cotto is not going to lose mate. he is going to hammer urkal and hopefully move on to margarito.

[Fenster]

It took over 2,500 posts but you finally manage to make a good one. I'll even cc you for it.

Ahh come on don't go soft on me

I don't want sentimentality clouding my judgment when i'm slapping you around and taking the piss out of you.

[ono]

bullshit, its not about the number of fights its about how good Cotto is. Cotto is totally out of Urkal's league. Cotto is much better than Hatton was at 29 fights, mainly due to the sheer number of Frank Warren stiff Hatton fought, and fighting Oktay Urkal is a total cop-out.

Number of fights is NOTHING to do with it.

Sure it does, Hatton is by his own admission getting ready for retirement, Cotto is on his way up. At this stage in Cotto's career he doesn't need to be making big name fights every fight yet. In a few years it will be a different story.
Number of fights has TONS to do with it.

I'm not sure i totally agree with your logic there. Number of fights is pretty vague. Experience gained during fights is more valuable. Experience wise Cotto is ready for somebody more dangerous than Urkal. Cotto might have had less fights than Hatton but Cotto has already experienced pretty much everything Hatton had by the time he fought Kostya Tszyu. I mean Cotto has been in big trouble twice and came through to win by stoppage. So i would say Cotto has a good deal of experience and IMO should be doing better than Urkal. But so long as the fight with Margarito goes ahead i'm prefectly happen if this ticks him over for a few months.

I can see your point. It's kind of hard for me taking away credit for the Urkal fight, because he is staying busy. And like I stated on the previous post, this would make 3 fights for Cotto in 6 months Quintana (to win the title), Urkal (Isn't he the mandatory), Margarito (big name fight). I don't see a problem there. CC ono, you are one of the people here I can reason with.

Yeh thats a different way of looking at it. 3 fights in 6 months is superb so can't really knock him. CC back.