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    Default Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$

    In regards to both camps, they all should be worried about the fight. In my opinion it's a dangerous fight for both fighters, but they're boxers, this is what they live for and what the fans want?

    For Marquez's camp they should be worried that Pacquiao has developed into a better fighter rather than the fighter who only threw a straight left hand the ENTIRE fight the first time around!

    For Pacquiao's camp, Marquez fought the perfect fight against him. The only setback was the three knockdowns in the first round. If that didn't happen then Marquez would've came out the winner, but it happened and that's the bottom line.

    Erik Morales fought a similar fight against Pacquiao as Marquez did but Morales stayed on his feet and EXECUTED to perfection, that was the difference!

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    Default Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$

    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Master
    Bhop, Winky, heck Oscar, MAB, Paq have all taken fights where they were not expected to win and earned the right to be marquee fighters. JMM is a good fighter but not an elite, he will when he fights and beats Paq. He will be in the money! Do not blame Paq only if the fight does not happen, the pressure should be on JMM to make the fight. He needs it more.
    He's not elite? In what sense? Becuase I'm pretty sure JMM is on like a high % of P4P lists.


    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.

    I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.

    Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
    Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.

    Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!

    If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?

    It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.





    This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that


    *** EDIT - FWOCK ME THIS THREAD IS BUSY, IVE TRYIED TO POST THIS MESSAGE 3 TIMES AND 7 MESSAGES HAVE BEEN PSOTED SINCE!!!!! ****
    Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe

    Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.

    Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
    The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac.

    Erm,forgive me if I'm wrong,but wasn't the first fight a draw? And didn't most think JMM won?



    And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.


    Jmm's fights with MAB,Terdsak,Jaca were more exciting than Pac's recent fights. They were exciting fullstop.I'm presuming you have not seen these fights?
    Hi El Gamo,

    How many PAYING public watched JMMs fights against Terdsak, and Jaca? BUTTS ON SEATS! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! Now, compare that with the latest Pac versus MAB fight.

    If you think JMM won the first fight with Pac, fine. I don't want to argue with that. But that isn't the point of my responses. If he is not afraid, TAKE THE FIGHT, regardless of the purse.
    Hello.

    I'll say it again: Manny has just as much if not more to prove by fighting JMM. Why doesn't MANNY take the FIGHT regardless of the PURSE? Is Manny AFRAID?
    El Gamo, we are going around in circles. This is what you are saying:

    1) JMM is the belt-holder. He beat Pac the first time they met (according to you). Manny must fight Marquez to prove he is better.

    All your arguments doesn't translate to greater prize purses if you have been reading my responses. Other champions in the other boxing divisions from flyweight to heavyweight can also claim this but they DON'T GET MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR purses. Why is JMM any different?

    Manny isn't afraid. His managers are SMART. They know who brings in the MONEY. They know who should get a bigger prize share. JMM is trying to outwit Manny's managers.

    You keep changing your points. First you say JMM has something to prove(WHEN THE FIGHT WAS A DRAW SO MANNY HAS JUST AS MUCH TO PROVE) and your making too many points which are baseless.

    Which champions are you referring to? Who is JMM's manager that he is trying to outwit Pac's manager?

    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12
    Marquez definitely isn't just a good fighter. He's currently #3, right after Pacquiao, in RING Magazine's pound-for-pound list. #2 vs #3 pound-for-pound, c'mon, can we ask for anything better?!
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Master
    Which goes back to my original statement that Paq is the high profile fighter and should get the greater share as he is the known fighter.

    caleoh12 CC
    Leading back to my point that a guy he beat,a guy JMM beat,a guy with no title,MAB,got the same as Manny in their fight. So why not JMM?
    It is not a question of who beats who. It is about who BRINGS BUTTS on the SEATS. Why did ODLH get a higher payday than Mayweather?
    Cause Oscar basically rules all in the boxing world! lol.
    Hahaha... so it isn't about belt-titles, pound-for-pound lists, after all! That is precisely my point.

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    Default Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Master
    Bhop, Winky, heck Oscar, MAB, Paq have all taken fights where they were not expected to win and earned the right to be marquee fighters. JMM is a good fighter but not an elite, he will when he fights and beats Paq. He will be in the money! Do not blame Paq only if the fight does not happen, the pressure should be on JMM to make the fight. He needs it more.
    He's not elite? In what sense? Becuase I'm pretty sure JMM is on like a high % of P4P lists.


    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.

    I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.

    Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
    Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.

    Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!

    If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?

    It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.





    This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that


    *** EDIT - FWOCK ME THIS THREAD IS BUSY, IVE TRYIED TO POST THIS MESSAGE 3 TIMES AND 7 MESSAGES HAVE BEEN PSOTED SINCE!!!!! ****
    Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe

    Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.

    Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
    The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac.

    Erm,forgive me if I'm wrong,but wasn't the first fight a draw? And didn't most think JMM won?



    And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.


    Jmm's fights with MAB,Terdsak,Jaca were more exciting than Pac's recent fights. They were exciting fullstop.I'm presuming you have not seen these fights?
    Hi El Gamo,

    How many PAYING public watched JMMs fights against Terdsak, and Jaca? BUTTS ON SEATS! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! Now, compare that with the latest Pac versus MAB fight.

    If you think JMM won the first fight with Pac, fine. I don't want to argue with that. But that isn't the point of my responses. If he is not afraid, TAKE THE FIGHT, regardless of the purse.
    Hello.

    I'll say it again: Manny has just as much if not more to prove by fighting JMM. Why doesn't MANNY take the FIGHT regardless of the PURSE? Is Manny AFRAID?
    El Gamo, we are going around in circles. This is what you are saying:

    1) JMM is the belt-holder. He beat Pac the first time they met (according to you). Manny must fight Marquez to prove he is better.

    All your arguments doesn't translate to greater prize purses if you have been reading my responses. Other champions in the other boxing divisions from flyweight to heavyweight can also claim this but they DON'T GET MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR purses. Why is JMM any different?

    Manny isn't afraid. His managers are SMART. They know who brings in the MONEY. They know who should get a bigger prize share. JMM is trying to outwit Manny's managers.

    You keep changing your points. First you say JMM has something to prove(WHEN THE FIGHT WAS A DRAW SO MANNY HAS JUST AS MUCH TO PROVE) and your making too many points which are baseless.

    Which champions are you referring to? Who is JMM's manager that he is trying to outwit Pac's manager?

    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12
    Marquez definitely isn't just a good fighter. He's currently #3, right after Pacquiao, in RING Magazine's pound-for-pound list. #2 vs #3 pound-for-pound, c'mon, can we ask for anything better?!
    Exactly.
    My point is simple. It is not about WHO HAS THE BELTS, WHO BEATS WHO, WHO IS POUND-FOR-POUND. It is about who brings BUTTS ON SEATS.

    Pac can ignore JMM. He can still have mega-buck fights with other fighters. In contrast, nobody is lining up to fight JMM for big moolah... Doesn't that SPEAK FOR ITSELF on who is the bigger draw?? You have conveniently ignored this.

    I repeated this several times already in my previous posts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Master
    Bhop, Winky, heck Oscar, MAB, Paq have all taken fights where they were not expected to win and earned the right to be marquee fighters. JMM is a good fighter but not an elite, he will when he fights and beats Paq. He will be in the money! Do not blame Paq only if the fight does not happen, the pressure should be on JMM to make the fight. He needs it more.
    He's not elite? In what sense? Becuase I'm pretty sure JMM is on like a high % of P4P lists.


    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.

    I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.

    Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
    Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.

    Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!

    If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?

    It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.





    This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that


    *** EDIT - FWOCK ME THIS THREAD IS BUSY, IVE TRYIED TO POST THIS MESSAGE 3 TIMES AND 7 MESSAGES HAVE BEEN PSOTED SINCE!!!!! ****
    Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe

    Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.

    Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
    The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac.

    Erm,forgive me if I'm wrong,but wasn't the first fight a draw? And didn't most think JMM won?



    And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.


    Jmm's fights with MAB,Terdsak,Jaca were more exciting than Pac's recent fights. They were exciting fullstop.I'm presuming you have not seen these fights?
    Hi El Gamo,

    How many PAYING public watched JMMs fights against Terdsak, and Jaca? BUTTS ON SEATS! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! Now, compare that with the latest Pac versus MAB fight.

    If you think JMM won the first fight with Pac, fine. I don't want to argue with that. But that isn't the point of my responses. If he is not afraid, TAKE THE FIGHT, regardless of the purse.
    Hello.

    I'll say it again: Manny has just as much if not more to prove by fighting JMM. Why doesn't MANNY take the FIGHT regardless of the PURSE? Is Manny AFRAID?
    El Gamo, we are going around in circles. This is what you are saying:

    1) JMM is the belt-holder. He beat Pac the first time they met (according to you). Manny must fight Marquez to prove he is better.

    All your arguments doesn't translate to greater prize purses if you have been reading my responses. Other champions in the other boxing divisions from flyweight to heavyweight can also claim this but they DON'T GET MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR purses. Why is JMM any different?

    Manny isn't afraid. His managers are SMART. They know who brings in the MONEY. They know who should get a bigger prize share. JMM is trying to outwit Manny's managers.

    You keep changing your points. First you say JMM has something to prove(WHEN THE FIGHT WAS A DRAW SO MANNY HAS JUST AS MUCH TO PROVE) and your making too many points which are baseless.

    Which champions are you referring to? Who is JMM's manager that he is trying to outwit Pac's manager?

    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12
    Marquez definitely isn't just a good fighter. He's currently #3, right after Pacquiao, in RING Magazine's pound-for-pound list. #2 vs #3 pound-for-pound, c'mon, can we ask for anything better?!
    Exactly.
    My point is simple. It is not about WHO HAS THE BELTS, WHO BEATS WHO, WHO IS POUND-FOR-POUND. It is about who brings BUTTS ON SEATS.

    Pac can ignore JMM. He can still have mega-buck fights with other fighters. In contrast, nobody is lining up to fight JMM for big moolah... Doesn't that SPEAK FOR ITSELF on who is the bigger draw?? You have conveniently ignored this.

    I repeated this several times already in my previous posts.

    SUre,Manny can fight other fighters than JMM. Valero. David Diaz.They do wonders for Manny's legacy Those guys are willing to take less. If you want to see those fights more, then that tells me alot about your boxing fan credentials. All boxing fans want to see the best fights. We want to see who is the best. We fans want this fight,JMM wants this fight.

    Honestly,on a side note,I never want to see any Manny fans dissing Mayweather being a money grabber,fighting for the money etc ever again. All your points are coming down to is JMM does not deserve the $$4 so he should not get the fight as opposed to they should make the split,both are getting big $$$ and we get to see who is the best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo

    SUre,Manny can fight other fighters than JMM. Valero. David Diaz.They do wonders for Manny's legacy Those guys are willing to take less. If you want to see those fights more, then that tells me alot about your boxing fan credentials. All boxing fans want to see the best fights. We want to see who is the best. We fans want this fight,JMM wants this fight.

    Honestly,on a side note,I never want to see any Manny fans dissing Mayweather being a money grabber,fighting for the money etc ever again. All your points are coming down to is JMM does not deserve the $$4 so he should not get the fight as opposed to they should make the split,both are getting big $$$ and we get to see who is the best.

    Hello. Finally we are coming to some kind of understanding.

    However, it is naive to think that fighters (and their managers, and coaches who earn percentages from prize purses) don't think about $$$. That is why ODLH demands a bigger purse than Mayweather. That is why Mayweather demands a bigger purse than Hatton. That is why Morales demanded a bigger purse than Pac. And that is why Pac demands a bigger purse than JMM.. and the list goes on....

    Don't get me wrong. I want to see JMM fight Pac. But from a FINANCIAL point of view, JMM needs the fight more because Pac has other options. JMM doesn't. That is why I kept saying that JMM should take the purse that is offered to him, and then he can WHOOP Pacman's ass if he likes. Then he can have his legacy with $$$ to boot.







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    On second thought, I think the JMM versus PACMAN fight would be made regardless, so fight fans need not worry. Look at this scenario:

    Pacman demands 70-30 split. Pac gets 5 Million. JMM gets 2 Million. JMM and Nacho Beristain protests and makes a lot of noise but realizes in the end that 2M $ is still a lot of money. And they probably learned their lesson the first time they didn't take the Pacman rematch for $750,000 and settled for a $50,000 fight instead in Indonesia.

    JMM takes the fight.

    Fans are happy. Justice is served.











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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny
    Understandable i think. If he's gonna fight JMM he'll want to make a lot of money for the difficult task, also he'll make negotiations awkward so JMM only accepts the fight if he really really wants it, as in enough to settle for less than Pac.
    true, anyways a lot of fighters lined up to fight pac and would still make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.

    I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.

    Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
    Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.

    Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!

    If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?

    It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.
    good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Quote Originally Posted by keypool
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Personally...I think that they both should get the even money split.

    I also think that there's a bit of fear coming from both camps & nothing anyone says will change my mind until the dotted lines are signed.

    Money should not get in the way here. This fight makes a boat-load of sense & it sure as S*** could be marketed to make an a**-load of money.
    Hello. I am new to this forum. I registered after reading this thread.

    Anyway, I disagree that Marquez should get even money with Pac. Purse split should be at least 70-30 or 60-40 in favor of Pac. Why? Because Pac is the bigger draw. Do you see people lining up and challenging Marquez? NO. With Pac, people who have called-out Pac included Casamayor, JMM, Sotto, Joan Guzman, Valero, Katisidis, etc. Clearly then, Pacquiao is the bigger draw, and thus, deserves more money. It is the same reason why De la Hoya got a bigger purse than Mayweather although Mayweather was the pound-for-pound king. I fail to see why you guys missed this point!

    If Pac doesn't fight JMM, he can still get multi-million dollar purses fighting any of the challengers mentioned above. Can Marquez do the same? NO. If JMM can accept $50,000 purse fighting a championship fight (because NO PROMOTER wanted to bid on the fight: read JMM is not saleable), why is he demanding EVEN money with Pacquiao?

    It doesn't make sense and Pac knows it. When Pac fought Morales the first and second time, he got LESS money than Morales. Pac took the fight with no complaints. JMM should do the same.





    This is an outdated statement. JMM is no longer that guy he was a few years back. He's the legitimate champ and PAC knows that


    *** EDIT - FWOCK ME THIS THREAD IS BUSY, IVE TRYIED TO POST THIS MESSAGE 3 TIMES AND 7 MESSAGES HAVE BEEN PSOTED SINCE!!!!! ****
    Yeah hahaha.. this is a hot topic... it made me register just to post here... hehe

    Anyway, it is NOT a question of being champion, unfortunately. Being champion doesn't necessarily bring in the paying public to watch fights. A non-title fight between Pac and MAB is a case in point.

    Boxing is a business. If I were JMM, I would accept even a 70-30 share in favor of Pac. That would be more than any of my previous prize purses anyway. Then he can get an opportunity to beat Pac, IF HE REALLY WANTS it. If he wins, then a rematch will get him more money. The only reason I think JMM wants a bigger prize is because he is afraid this might mean the end of his career if he loses to Pac. Because of JMM loses, there will be no rematch. He loses the belts. And nobody would watch his boring fights after that.
    keypool, i like you. you make a lot of sense.

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    Damn £££ (or $$$$, what ever way you look at it) will prove to be a Geniuine Road Block.

    Shame really. Fukin alphabet count for nothing sheit belts!

    The thing that gets me is that Marquez would probably be the betting favorite too

    I dunno. I feel that Marques has every right to try to get more money from this, even if it does prove to a complete waste of time.
    If the fight falls through its not like Marquez will be perceived as the guy who priced himslef out of a fight through lack of interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Damn £££ (or $$$$, what ever way you look at it) will prove to be a Geniuine Road Block.

    Shame really. Fukin alphabet count for nothing sheit belts!

    The thing that gets me is that Marquez would probably be the betting favorite too

    I dunno. I feel that Marques has every right to try to get more money from this, even if it does prove to a complete waste of time.
    If the fight falls through its not like Marquez will be perceived as the guy who priced himslef out of a fight through lack of interest.
    Exactly


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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Damn £££ (or $$$$, what ever way you look at it) will prove to be a Geniuine Road Block.

    Shame really. Fukin alphabet count for nothing sheit belts!

    The thing that gets me is that Marquez would probably be the betting favorite too

    I dunno. I feel that Marques has every right to try to get more money from this, even if it does prove to a complete waste of time.
    If the fight falls through its not like Marquez will be perceived as the guy who priced himslef out of a fight through lack of interest.
    Exactly

    Damn right exactly. It fukin bullsheit man! Logic tells you PAC should earn more money but how messed up is that? Marquez is the better fighter. Would be the betting favorite and is the champion.

    Where is there another scenario in boxing like this where the challenger gets more money

    Fukin Bullshiet!
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    Marquez has the stupidest handlers and management in boxing. Whether he deserves as much money, is as good a boxer, etc...is all besides the point. He is simply not in the position to be making $$$ demands. A big reason for this is because he has squandered so many chances in the past to make things happen. Sure, many have ducked him...but their are plenty of examples where he could have made big fights. He is nearing the end of his career and if he wants to make in an impact he needs to stop being so proud and stingy. He needs to fight Pac...doesn't matter for how much. That's a fight people want to see. If he fights and beats Manny, it will open the doors for other big fights and more $$$. I think Marquez is a superb fighter...but him and his team are inept at business. Don't want to sound harsh on him...i know he feels like he is a great fighter and deserves good money...but unfortunately that's not how the world of boxing works.

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    Default Re: Road block to JMM v Manny2: $$$$$

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie
    Damn £££ (or $$$$, what ever way you look at it) will prove to be a Geniuine Road Block.

    Shame really. Fukin alphabet count for nothing sheit belts!

    The thing that gets me is that Marquez would probably be the betting favorite too

    I dunno. I feel that Marques has every right to try to get more money from this, even if it does prove to a complete waste of time.
    If the fight falls through its not like Marquez will be perceived as the guy who priced himslef out of a fight through lack of interest.
    Exactly

    Damn right exactly. It fukin bullsheit man! Logic tells you PAC should earn more money but how messed up is that? Marquez is the better fighter. Would be the betting favorite and is the champion.

    Where is there another scenario in boxing like this where the challenger gets more money

    Fukin Bullshiet!
    I believe the Mike Tyson fights and ODLH fights are also other examples.

    BUT HOLD YOUR HORSES. THE FIGHT WILL PUSH THROUGH. In case you missed my earlier post, here is the scenario I envisioned:

    Pacman demands 70-30 split. Pac gets 5 Million. JMM gets 2 Million. JMM and Nacho Beristain protests and makes a lot of noise but realizes in the end that 2M $ is still a lot of money. And they probably learned their lesson the first time they didn't take the Pacman rematch for $750,000 and settled for a $50,000 fight instead in Indonesia.

    JMM takes the fight.

    Fans are happy. El Gamo is happy. Justice is served.

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