Bernard Hopkins offers Calzaghe $8 million!!

[Fenster]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-shit
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's fucking obvious.

[DaxxKahn]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.

The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future

[Fenster]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.

The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future

Who said anything about being "afraid"?


Does Hopkins NEED Calzaghe? NO.

Does Hopkins need the money? NO.

Would Calzaghe be one the hardest fights of Hopkins career? YES.

Is Hopkins at a place NOW where he fancies a GUARANTEED hard fight? NO.


Calzaghe has been chasing after Hopkins for donkeys years. Hopkins has alwways recognised Calzaghe as a serious threat. It's not about being afraid. It's about being smart. He don't need Cazlaghe so why fight him?

[DaxxKahn]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.

The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future

Who said anything about being "afraid"?


Does Hopkins NEED Calzaghe? NO.

Does Hopkins need the money? NO.

Would Calzaghe be one the hardest fights of Hopkins career? YES.

Is Hopkins at a place NOW where he fancies a GUARANTEED hard fight. NO.


Calzaghe has been chasing after Hopkins for donkeys years. Hopkins has alwways recognised Calzaghe as a serious threat. It's not about being afraid. It's about being smart. He don't need Cazlaghe so why fight him?

Hold on one second....This is your post yes?

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.


When someone says a person will not take a fight because they don't fancy taking a beating hint's they are afraid to fight for that reason....

So in other words you did....

What you have nothing better to do with yourself then BS your own post?.....or are you going to try and say it meant something different?......

[Fenster]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.

The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future

Who said anything about being "afraid"?


Does Hopkins NEED Calzaghe? NO.

Does Hopkins need the money? NO.

Would Calzaghe be one the hardest fights of Hopkins career? YES.

Is Hopkins at a place NOW where he fancies a GUARANTEED hard fight. NO.


Calzaghe has been chasing after Hopkins for donkeys years. Hopkins has alwways recognised Calzaghe as a serious threat. It's not about being afraid. It's about being smart. He don't need Cazlaghe so why fight him?

Hold on one second....This is your post yes?

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.


When someone says a person will not take a fight because they don't fancy taking a beating hint's they are afraid to fight for that reason....

So in other words you did....

What you have nothing better to do with yourself then BS your own post?.....or are you going to try and say it meant something different?......

Hmm.. Well win or lose you can take a beating in a fight, no? I was more expressing my colourful banter side. And that's why I answered your post with a more SERIOUS responce.

Fair do's though.

I should of said - Hopkins WONT fight Calzaghe because he knows it's a GUARANTEED hard fight. One that he KNOWS he starts underdog in. One that he doesn't really need. Especially if he doesn't want another LOSS on his record.

[Tins06]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.

The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future

Who said anything about being "afraid"?


Does Hopkins NEED Calzaghe? NO.

Does Hopkins need the money? NO.

Would Calzaghe be one the hardest fights of Hopkins career? YES.

Is Hopkins at a place NOW where he fancies a GUARANTEED hard fight? NO.


Calzaghe has been chasing after Hopkins for donkeys years. Hopkins has alwways recognised Calzaghe as a serious threat. It's not about being afraid. It's about being smart. He don't need Cazlaghe so why fight him?

Fenster how can you say that when Bhop just called out Calzaghe before the Kessler fight...i think Bhop was hoping Joe would lose to Kesler.That aint smart,that was Bhop being stupid.

I'd hardly say was "scared" but he aint got the balls to get in with Joe i think whatever Joe does for this fight Bhop is going to make up something he wants. and some of his demands are quite frankly ridiculous. like asking for exclusive promotion rights? get real.

Bhop should say straight wether he wants this fight or not rather than messing around with the public...wich is what he is doing.

I wouldnt blame him if he said he didint want to fight Joe...the guy is 40 for christ sake..who would give a S*** if he said "nah F*** it maybe if i was 10yrs younger"

But Bhop if just F****** everyone about at the moment.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

this fight may never happen, infact i dont beleive it will due to so much petty talk

B-HOP has said he'll never go to wales, which is fair enough because lets face it wales ain't the 1st place on a boxing calender you look to have a big fight, Hopkins fights in Vegas which at the moment is home to boxing and a world wide famous venue to BIG FIGHTS

joe has always refused to go over the pond, he doesn't wish to travel, he keeps saying he'll go to america now to fight a big name BUT!!! theres nothing to show he wants to.......... him and warren keeping talking about getting hopkins over here..... it seem that fight won'thappen so.................. there now talking about a fight with WOODS in wales!!!! is hopkins the only name out there joe can't fight no one else from abroad? why now get a fight with woods

simple fact joe and warren want a 43year old past his best hopkins to come to wales, here not prepared to fight a young strong guy, there even to afraid to go to vegas and fight hopkins, instead they now look to a lilmited and old woods to come to wales, joe says he'll knock hopkins out but he ain't really interested in fighting the man............. they'll use this as a talking point to say " BERNARD HOPKINS THE GREAT FIGHTER WAS TO AFRAID TO FIGHT JOE " to add credit to joes name............. joe will finish his carreer in wales fighting limited past there best guys or reality tv stars etc etc etc........... its a real shame because joe had talent and could have made a name world wide but he choose to stay home in comfort zones......... sadly he'll be remembered as a good fighter who lacked the courage to go over the pond............... RICKY HATTON WENT OVER AND NOW IS A MUCH BIGGER NAME AND HAS MUCH MORE RESPECT WITH FIGHT FANS THEN JOES EVER HAD

TAKE THE FIGHT WITH HOPKINS IN AMERICA JOE AND DO THE BIZ............... DONT LET IT SLIP BY AGAIN

[DaxxKahn]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.

The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future

Who said anything about being "afraid"?


Does Hopkins NEED Calzaghe? NO.

Does Hopkins need the money? NO.

Would Calzaghe be one the hardest fights of Hopkins career? YES.

Is Hopkins at a place NOW where he fancies a GUARANTEED hard fight. NO.


Calzaghe has been chasing after Hopkins for donkeys years. Hopkins has alwways recognised Calzaghe as a serious threat. It's not about being afraid. It's about being smart. He don't need Cazlaghe so why fight him?

Hold on one second....This is your post yes?

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.


When someone says a person will not take a fight because they don't fancy taking a beating hint's they are afraid to fight for that reason....

So in other words you did....

What you have nothing better to do with yourself then BS your own post?.....or are you going to try and say it meant something different?......

Hmm.. Well win or lose you can take a beating in a fight, no? I was more expressing my colourful banter side. And that's why I answered your post with a more SERIOUS responce.

Fair do's though.

I should of said - Hopkins WONT fight Calzaghe because he knows it's a GUARANTEED hard fight. One that he KNOWS he starts underdog in. One that he doesn't really need. Especially if he doesn't want another LOSS on his record.

Thats fair enough and can be agreed upon...it can also said about both guys..,..What is stopping Calzaghe from coming to the US?.....Like I said before if they both wanted it it would have happened...as the old expression goes it takes two to tango

[Fenster]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.

The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future

Who said anything about being "afraid"?


Does Hopkins NEED Calzaghe? NO.

Does Hopkins need the money? NO.

Would Calzaghe be one the hardest fights of Hopkins career? YES.

Is Hopkins at a place NOW where he fancies a GUARANTEED hard fight? NO.


Calzaghe has been chasing after Hopkins for donkeys years. Hopkins has alwways recognised Calzaghe as a serious threat. It's not about being afraid. It's about being smart. He don't need Cazlaghe so why fight him?

Fenster how can you say that when Bhop just called out Calzaghe before the Kessler fight...i think Bhop was hoping Joe would lose to Kesler.That aint smart,that was Bhop being stupid.

I'd hardly say was "scared" but he aint got the balls to get in with Joe i think whatever Joe does for this fight Bhop is going to make up something he wants. and some of his demands are quite frankly ridiculous. like asking for exclusive promotion rights? get real.

Bhop should say straight wether he wants this fight or not rather than messing around with the public...wich is what he is doing.

I wouldnt blame him if he said he didint want to fight Joe...the guy is 40 for christ sake..who would give a S*** if he said "nah F*** it maybe if i was 10yrs younger"

But Bhop if just F****** everyone about at the moment.

We agree. I'm just trying to put it across slightly different.

He's never going to come out and say - "I don't fancy fighting that cazlaghe guy, he too gooood".. it's just not the done thing.

[Fenster]

Jones did duck Joe
Hopkins laid the money on the table
Of course Jones ducked Hopkins too
Aint never been a good offer Bernard hasnt taken,this smells of Warren B-S***
Joe really needs to ditch Frank for his own legacies sake,seems every time Joe is willing to take the fights that will secure him as a great,Frank butts his wallet in to it

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.

The man...(actually be it Hopkins or any other world class fighter of that status)...is not afraid of taking a beating......

I have no idea why people say such things..."He is afraid to get beat up"...what is this 4th grade and an arguement between the new guy and class bully?.......

Has nothing to do with being afraid...it's politics nothing more nothing less....and for that matter it is politics on both sides of the pond....if either...and I stress the word...EITHER man really wanted the fight that badly they would have given in one way or the other by now...simple as that....

we can all say Hopkins is afraid or Calzaghe is afraid...though neither is true...it is plain out stubburness between both camps.........

At this stage in their careers it is about legecy...money means nothing to them at this time in their lives both are rich beyond needs and will never want for money......So the claims of one "Pricing themselves out"......means nothing because both men can afford to take the small end of the purse because in truth the winner will make out 5 times that in higher purses in the future

Who said anything about being "afraid"?


Does Hopkins NEED Calzaghe? NO.

Does Hopkins need the money? NO.

Would Calzaghe be one the hardest fights of Hopkins career? YES.

Is Hopkins at a place NOW where he fancies a GUARANTEED hard fight. NO.


Calzaghe has been chasing after Hopkins for donkeys years. Hopkins has alwways recognised Calzaghe as a serious threat. It's not about being afraid. It's about being smart. He don't need Cazlaghe so why fight him?

Hold on one second....This is your post yes?

Whether Joe is with FW or not is irrelevant.

What do think Hopkins don't want to fight Calzaghe because of Warren? The only reason Hopkins and Calzaghe wont happen is because HOPKINS don't fancy taking a beating. That's F****** obvious.


When someone says a person will not take a fight because they don't fancy taking a beating hint's they are afraid to fight for that reason....

So in other words you did....

What you have nothing better to do with yourself then BS your own post?.....or are you going to try and say it meant something different?......

Hmm.. Well win or lose you can take a beating in a fight, no? I was more expressing my colourful banter side. And that's why I answered your post with a more SERIOUS responce.

Fair do's though.

I should of said - Hopkins WONT fight Calzaghe because he knows it's a GUARANTEED hard fight. One that he KNOWS he starts underdog in. One that he doesn't really need. Especially if he doesn't want another LOSS on his record.

Thats fair enough and can be agreed upon...it can also said about both guys..,..What is stopping Calzaghe from coming to the US?.....Like I said before if they both wanted it it would have happened...as the old expression goes it takes two to tango

If Hopkins wanted it the fight would have happened 4 years ago.

If Hopkins wants it NOW the fight will happen (he cleary doesn't).

ALL that has come out of Cazlaghe's mouth for YEARS is "Hopkins" "Hopkins" "Hopkins"

Remember many were accusing Calzaghe of being SCARED of Kessler because he was saying he'd prefer a fight with Hopkins, Jones, Taylor - a big American before Kessler.

[superheavyrhun]

this fight may never happen, infact i dont beleive it will due to so much petty talk

B-HOP has said he'll never go to wales, which is fair enough because lets face it wales ain't the 1st place on a boxing calender you look to have a big fight, Hopkins fights in Vegas which at the moment is home to boxing and a world wide famous venue to BIG FIGHTS

joe has always refused to go over the pond, he doesn't wish to travel, he keeps saying he'll go to america now to fight a big name BUT!!! theres nothing to show he wants to.......... him and warren keeping talking about getting hopkins over here..... it seem that fight won'thappen so.................. there now talking about a fight with WOODS in wales!!!! is hopkins the only name out there joe can't fight no one else from abroad? why now get a fight with woods

simple fact joe and warren want a 43year old past his best hopkins to come to wales, here not prepared to fight a young strong guy, there even to afraid to go to vegas and fight hopkins, instead they now look to a lilmited and old woods to come to wales, joe says he'll knock hopkins out but he ain't really interested in fighting the man............. they'll use this as a talking point to say " BERNARD HOPKINS THE GREAT FIGHTER WAS TO AFRAID TO FIGHT JOE " to add credit to joes name............. joe will finish his carreer in wales fighting limited past there best guys or reality tv stars etc etc etc........... its a real shame because joe had talent and could have made a name world wide but he choose to stay home in comfort zones......... sadly he'll be remembered as a good fighter who lacked the courage to go over the pond............... RICKY HATTON WENT OVER AND NOW IS A MUCH BIGGER NAME AND HAS MUCH MORE RESPECT WITH FIGHT FANS THEN JOES EVER HAD

TAKE THE FIGHT WITH HOPKINS IN AMERICA JOE AND DO THE BIZ............... DONT LET IT SLIP BY AGAIN

Dude....do you even read our front news page Rob Lewis aka Preme did an interview with Calzaghe straight after these rumours of Hopkins making an $8 million offer, and neither Calzaghe nor Warren had heard anything about it.

Hopkins making up bogus claims about offers that never materialised....how exactly is that Joe's fault. If that offer was legit, Joe would be on it like flies on shit. And on one hand you're saying Hopkins is past it....and then you're saying he should take the fight.

The reason the Woods fight is being mentioned is dual...Hopkins don't want a fight before next summer, and Joe would rather have one sooner. And there's the small matter of the IBF light-heavy belt.

As for Wales as a venue....do the math. 60,000 tickets = more cash than 16,000 tickets. Everyone makes more money. And from what I've seen, with the exception of Hatton bouts, Vegas' atmosphere doesn't come close to the Millennium Stadium.

The basic fact is, if Golden Boy fronts up with their $8 million offer, Joe'll take it, heck, any fighter would.

[eagle]

this fight may never happen, infact i dont beleive it will due to so much petty talk

B-HOP has said he'll never go to wales, which is fair enough because lets face it wales ain't the 1st place on a boxing calender you look to have a big fight, Hopkins fights in Vegas which at the moment is home to boxing and a world wide famous venue to BIG FIGHTS

joe has always refused to go over the pond, he doesn't wish to travel, he keeps saying he'll go to america now to fight a big name BUT!!! theres nothing to show he wants to.......... him and warren keeping talking about getting hopkins over here..... it seem that fight won'thappen so.................. there now talking about a fight with WOODS in wales!!!! is hopkins the only name out there joe can't fight no one else from abroad? why now get a fight with woods

simple fact joe and warren want a 43year old past his best hopkins to come to wales, here not prepared to fight a young strong guy, there even to afraid to go to vegas and fight hopkins, instead they now look to a lilmited and old woods to come to wales, joe says he'll knock hopkins out but he ain't really interested in fighting the man............. they'll use this as a talking point to say " BERNARD HOPKINS THE GREAT FIGHTER WAS TO AFRAID TO FIGHT JOE " to add credit to joes name............. joe will finish his carreer in wales fighting limited past there best guys or reality tv stars etc etc etc........... its a real shame because joe had talent and could have made a name world wide but he choose to stay home in comfort zones......... sadly he'll be remembered as a good fighter who lacked the courage to go over the pond............... RICKY HATTON WENT OVER AND NOW IS A MUCH BIGGER NAME AND HAS MUCH MORE RESPECT WITH FIGHT FANS THEN JOES EVER HAD

TAKE THE FIGHT WITH HOPKINS IN AMERICA JOE AND DO THE BIZ............... DONT LET IT SLIP BY AGAIN

Dude....do you even read our front news page Rob Lewis aka Preme did an interview with Calzaghe straight after these rumours of Hopkins making an $8 million offer, and neither Calzaghe nor Warren had heard anything about it.

Hopkins making up bogus claims about offers that never materialised....how exactly is that Joe's fault. If that offer was legit, Joe would be on it like flies on S***. And on one hand you're saying Hopkins is past it....and then you're saying he should take the fight.

The reason the Woods fight is being mentioned is dual...Hopkins don't want a fight before next summer, and Joe would rather have one sooner. And there's the small matter of the IBF light-heavy belt.

As for Wales as a venue....do the math. 60,000 tickets = more cash than 16,000 tickets. Everyone makes more money. And from what I've seen, with the exception of Hatton bouts, Vegas' atmosphere doesn't come close to the Millennium Stadium.

The basic fact is, if Golden Boy fronts up with their $8 million offer, Joe'll take it, heck, any fighter would.

Just cos Joe and FW say something in an interview dont mean its true. Sure one side is lying but why does it have to be Hopkins and Goldenboy? Frank Warren is arguably the most dishonest manager out there at the moment. Rob Lewis is a good writer dpnt get me wrong but he may also be the biggest Calzaghe nuthuggers who ever hugged nuts. Of course he is gonna write the story to make Joe look good and Hopkins bad. He is not exactly neutral.
Maybe Joe is right and Hopkins is the liar, but it'd be naive to base your whole argument on one interview written by a noted Calzaghe fan.

[superheavyrhun]

this fight may never happen, infact i dont beleive it will due to so much petty talk

B-HOP has said he'll never go to wales, which is fair enough because lets face it wales ain't the 1st place on a boxing calender you look to have a big fight, Hopkins fights in Vegas which at the moment is home to boxing and a world wide famous venue to BIG FIGHTS

joe has always refused to go over the pond, he doesn't wish to travel, he keeps saying he'll go to america now to fight a big name BUT!!! theres nothing to show he wants to.......... him and warren keeping talking about getting hopkins over here..... it seem that fight won'thappen so.................. there now talking about a fight with WOODS in wales!!!! is hopkins the only name out there joe can't fight no one else from abroad? why now get a fight with woods

simple fact joe and warren want a 43year old past his best hopkins to come to wales, here not prepared to fight a young strong guy, there even to afraid to go to vegas and fight hopkins, instead they now look to a lilmited and old woods to come to wales, joe says he'll knock hopkins out but he ain't really interested in fighting the man............. they'll use this as a talking point to say " BERNARD HOPKINS THE GREAT FIGHTER WAS TO AFRAID TO FIGHT JOE " to add credit to joes name............. joe will finish his carreer in wales fighting limited past there best guys or reality tv stars etc etc etc........... its a real shame because joe had talent and could have made a name world wide but he choose to stay home in comfort zones......... sadly he'll be remembered as a good fighter who lacked the courage to go over the pond............... RICKY HATTON WENT OVER AND NOW IS A MUCH BIGGER NAME AND HAS MUCH MORE RESPECT WITH FIGHT FANS THEN JOES EVER HAD

TAKE THE FIGHT WITH HOPKINS IN AMERICA JOE AND DO THE BIZ............... DONT LET IT SLIP BY AGAIN

Dude....do you even read our front news page Rob Lewis aka Preme did an interview with Calzaghe straight after these rumours of Hopkins making an $8 million offer, and neither Calzaghe nor Warren had heard anything about it.

Hopkins making up bogus claims about offers that never materialised....how exactly is that Joe's fault. If that offer was legit, Joe would be on it like flies on S***. And on one hand you're saying Hopkins is past it....and then you're saying he should take the fight.

The reason the Woods fight is being mentioned is dual...Hopkins don't want a fight before next summer, and Joe would rather have one sooner. And there's the small matter of the IBF light-heavy belt.

As for Wales as a venue....do the math. 60,000 tickets = more cash than 16,000 tickets. Everyone makes more money. And from what I've seen, with the exception of Hatton bouts, Vegas' atmosphere doesn't come close to the Millennium Stadium.

The basic fact is, if Golden Boy fronts up with their $8 million offer, Joe'll take it, heck, any fighter would.

Just cos Joe and FW say something in an interview dont mean its true. Sure one side is lying but why does it have to be Hopkins and Goldenboy? Frank Warren is arguably the most dishonest manager out there at the moment. Rob Lewis is a good writer dpnt get me wrong but he may also be the biggest Calzaghe fans who ever hugged nuts. Of course he is gonna write the story to make Joe look good and Hopkins bad. He is not exactly neutral.
Maybe Joe is right and Hopkins is the liar, but it'd be naive to base your whole argument on one interview written by a noted Calzaghe fan.

But on these threads there are always certain posters who love to jump on the anti-Calzaghe bandwagon and always say this, that and t'other about Warren and Calzaghe. And what's your basis for saying Warren is arguably the most dishonest manager out there? We got plenty of other promoters and managers who are equally as ruthless and calculating in their dealings.

[Preme]

this fight may never happen, infact i dont beleive it will due to so much petty talk

B-HOP has said he'll never go to wales, which is fair enough because lets face it wales ain't the 1st place on a boxing calender you look to have a big fight, Hopkins fights in Vegas which at the moment is home to boxing and a world wide famous venue to BIG FIGHTS

joe has always refused to go over the pond, he doesn't wish to travel, he keeps saying he'll go to america now to fight a big name BUT!!! theres nothing to show he wants to.......... him and warren keeping talking about getting hopkins over here..... it seem that fight won'thappen so.................. there now talking about a fight with WOODS in wales!!!! is hopkins the only name out there joe can't fight no one else from abroad? why now get a fight with woods

simple fact joe and warren want a 43year old past his best hopkins to come to wales, here not prepared to fight a young strong guy, there even to afraid to go to vegas and fight hopkins, instead they now look to a lilmited and old woods to come to wales, joe says he'll knock hopkins out but he ain't really interested in fighting the man............. they'll use this as a talking point to say " BERNARD HOPKINS THE GREAT FIGHTER WAS TO AFRAID TO FIGHT JOE " to add credit to joes name............. joe will finish his carreer in wales fighting limited past there best guys or reality tv stars etc etc etc........... its a real shame because joe had talent and could have made a name world wide but he choose to stay home in comfort zones......... sadly he'll be remembered as a good fighter who lacked the courage to go over the pond............... RICKY HATTON WENT OVER AND NOW IS A MUCH BIGGER NAME AND HAS MUCH MORE RESPECT WITH FIGHT FANS THEN JOES EVER HAD

TAKE THE FIGHT WITH HOPKINS IN AMERICA JOE AND DO THE BIZ............... DONT LET IT SLIP BY AGAIN

Dude....do you even read our front news page Rob Lewis aka Preme did an interview with Calzaghe straight after these rumours of Hopkins making an $8 million offer, and neither Calzaghe nor Warren had heard anything about it.

Hopkins making up bogus claims about offers that never materialised....how exactly is that Joe's fault. If that offer was legit, Joe would be on it like flies on S***. And on one hand you're saying Hopkins is past it....and then you're saying he should take the fight.

The reason the Woods fight is being mentioned is dual...Hopkins don't want a fight before next summer, and Joe would rather have one sooner. And there's the small matter of the IBF light-heavy belt.

As for Wales as a venue....do the math. 60,000 tickets = more cash than 16,000 tickets. Everyone makes more money. And from what I've seen, with the exception of Hatton bouts, Vegas' atmosphere doesn't come close to the Millennium Stadium.

The basic fact is, if Golden Boy fronts up with their $8 million offer, Joe'll take it, heck, any fighter would.

Just cos Joe and FW say something in an interview dont mean its true. Sure one side is lying but why does it have to be Hopkins and Goldenboy? Frank Warren is arguably the most dishonest manager out there at the moment. Rob Lewis is a good writer dpnt get me wrong but he may also be the biggest Calzaghe fans who ever hugged nuts. Of course he is gonna write the story to make Joe look good and Hopkins bad. He is not exactly neutral.
Maybe Joe is right and Hopkins is the liar, but it'd be naive to base your whole argument on one interview written by a noted Calzaghe fan.

i didn't write shit to make anyone look good or bad, i used my contact to get the other side of the "story"

now i never made hopkins or calzaghe to be anything in that and NO ONE is calling hopkins a liar, in fact the question of how valid that is lies on the person it came from... what is questioned in that is, if it is from hopkins, and if it is valid why wasn't it formal press realese? every major peper in the UK, some bigger boxing one sin the us, teletext etc etc etc would of printed that stroy...

I can not say 100% that its bullshit, but one can question something that is a very very big talking point in an already hot subject making an almost unnoticed appearance.

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FYI everything apar from the quotes in that article was written by daxx kahn... i got caught on a very busy friday where i had somewhere to be and i was late. so i done that real quick with Joe and just simply passed on the quotes to daxx.

[DaxxKahn]

this fight may never happen, infact i dont beleive it will due to so much petty talk

B-HOP has said he'll never go to wales, which is fair enough because lets face it wales ain't the 1st place on a boxing calender you look to have a big fight, Hopkins fights in Vegas which at the moment is home to boxing and a world wide famous venue to BIG FIGHTS

joe has always refused to go over the pond, he doesn't wish to travel, he keeps saying he'll go to america now to fight a big name BUT!!! theres nothing to show he wants to.......... him and warren keeping talking about getting hopkins over here..... it seem that fight won'thappen so.................. there now talking about a fight with WOODS in wales!!!! is hopkins the only name out there joe can't fight no one else from abroad? why now get a fight with woods

simple fact joe and warren want a 43year old past his best hopkins to come to wales, here not prepared to fight a young strong guy, there even to afraid to go to vegas and fight hopkins, instead they now look to a lilmited and old woods to come to wales, joe says he'll knock hopkins out but he ain't really interested in fighting the man............. they'll use this as a talking point to say " BERNARD HOPKINS THE GREAT FIGHTER WAS TO AFRAID TO FIGHT JOE " to add credit to joes name............. joe will finish his carreer in wales fighting limited past there best guys or reality tv stars etc etc etc........... its a real shame because joe had talent and could have made a name world wide but he choose to stay home in comfort zones......... sadly he'll be remembered as a good fighter who lacked the courage to go over the pond............... RICKY HATTON WENT OVER AND NOW IS A MUCH BIGGER NAME AND HAS MUCH MORE RESPECT WITH FIGHT FANS THEN JOES EVER HAD

TAKE THE FIGHT WITH HOPKINS IN AMERICA JOE AND DO THE BIZ............... DONT LET IT SLIP BY AGAIN

Dude....do you even read our front news page Rob Lewis aka Preme did an interview with Calzaghe straight after these rumours of Hopkins making an $8 million offer, and neither Calzaghe nor Warren had heard anything about it.

Hopkins making up bogus claims about offers that never materialised....how exactly is that Joe's fault. If that offer was legit, Joe would be on it like flies on S***. And on one hand you're saying Hopkins is past it....and then you're saying he should take the fight.

The reason the Woods fight is being mentioned is dual...Hopkins don't want a fight before next summer, and Joe would rather have one sooner. And there's the small matter of the IBF light-heavy belt.

As for Wales as a venue....do the math. 60,000 tickets = more cash than 16,000 tickets. Everyone makes more money. And from what I've seen, with the exception of Hatton bouts, Vegas' atmosphere doesn't come close to the Millennium Stadium.

The basic fact is, if Golden Boy fronts up with their $8 million offer, Joe'll take it, heck, any fighter would.

Just cos Joe and FW say something in an interview dont mean its true. Sure one side is lying but why does it have to be Hopkins and Goldenboy? Frank Warren is arguably the most dishonest manager out there at the moment. Rob Lewis is a good writer dpnt get me wrong but he may also be the biggest Calzaghe fans who ever hugged nuts. Of course he is gonna write the story to make Joe look good and Hopkins bad. He is not exactly neutral.
Maybe Joe is right and Hopkins is the liar, but it'd be naive to base your whole argument on one interview written by a noted Calzaghe fan.

i didn't write S*** to make anyone look good or bad, i used my contact to get the other side of the "story"

now i never made hopkins or calzaghe to be anything in that and NO ONE is calling hopkins a liar, in fact the question of how valid that is lies on the person it came from... what is questioned in that is, if it is from hopkins, and if it is valid why wasn't it formal press realese? every major peper in the UK, some bigger boxing one sin the us, teletext etc etc etc would of printed that stroy...

I can not say 100% that its bullshit, but one can question something that is a very very big talking point in an already hot subject making an almost unnoticed appearance.

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FYI everything apar from the quotes in that article was written by daxx kahn... i got caught on a very busy friday where i had somewhere to be and i was late. so i done that real quick with Joe and just simply passed on the quotes to daxx.

The story of the offer is a rumor nothing more nothing less...it has not been confirmed by GBP the promoter of bernard Hopkins and until it is confirmed by the promoter of Hopkins or Joe Calzaghe...then it can not be written as fact...and therefor remains rumor....so those who are acticng as though anyone called anyone a liar about anything know what it allowed to be printed as fact and what is printed as rumor....

BTW Rumor does not mean a lie it means just that RUMOR could be true could be false