If Manny Pacquiao Pulled Off A Win Vs Hatton.........

[SalTheButcher]

pacquiao would beat hatton badly, he needs to fight mayweather

[kingfrnk]

if Pacman win he should fight Mayweather and call it a day. I dont see any other big fights out there for him that would bigger than him fighting Floyd. Maybe just another JMM fight??

[iwng100]

pacquiao would beat hatton badly, he needs to fight mayweather

Amen !

[Julius Rain]

when pacs calls it a career, i hope his name is forever next to the great henry armstrong.

[fan johnny]

Theres no point in fighting hatton but for a big draw. After what floyd did to hatton I doubt hatton fans will travel back here in america to see him in another big fight even though his fighting a smaller guy.

As for hattons legacy, it pretty much got tainted by floyds left hook.

that is as good a post as i have ever seen on this forum.

brilliant.

I disagree, you don't compare amature career to pro career. for one simple reason....theres an age limit to turn pro, fighters can start their amatures at very young age. so to compare the weight class of an amature to a pro's is rediculous and NO floyd was not the same age as pac was when pac was 106. Floyd must of been 12 years old in his amatures in a kids leage while pac was fighting PRO 106 FIGHTERS. Hope you see the difference. wait in case you don't get it let me repeat...pac was fighting P...R....O....ADULT MEN.... AT 106, and if ever floyd fought at 106.....floyd was fighting....A.M.A.T.U.R.E....LITTLE KIDS.....BIG DIFFERENCE.


IMO

God i hate guys like u who just make stuff up and refuse to research.
PBF win the 1993 national golden gloves at 106 pounds aged 16 not 12. Manny fouht at 106 aged 17, so not a whole lot of difference there.

Keep in mind Floyd was fighting and beating the best 106 pound amatures in the US, some of these guys were real men not 12 yr olds like u inferred.

Add this to the fact that Pac only fought once at 106 and was fighting at 113 a year later. Pacs crappy early opponents were all in their teens or early 20s and none had good records. They certainly wouldnt have been the calibre of fighter that a top US golden gloves amature is..

Well... you also twist the facts for your argument. Pacquiao at the same age as Maweather was 110lbs, and Mayweather was 130lbs. Pacquiao is a legitimately 3 weight classes below Mayweather. There will be doubt about how to measure Pacquiao's greatness until he faces another great welterweight. There is no doubt that Mayweather is a top 100 on the all time greatest fighters list but he is not in a legitimate top 50 list. If Pacquiao were to retire today he is arguably in the top 50 list mostly due to the fact that he rose from 106 to fight at 147 in his professional career. If Pacquiao were to fight Marigrito and win it would solidify him as a top 50 and perhaps put him top 20 all time list. If Mayweather were to defeat Marigrito it would only solidify him as a legitimate top 80 or so. If Mayweather were to defeat Mikkel Kessler at 160lbs it would add a lot more clout to his legacy and perhaps put him in a legitimate top 50 list. A Pacquiao win over Mayweather means much more to boxing history than a Mayweather jr win over Pacquiao. Mayweather jr beating Pacquiao only means Mayweathers' can fly a little longer with their lips.

Pacquiao beating Hatton makes him all the more p4p king and moves him further up the list of all time great fighters. Lets hope that Pacquiao can draw out Mayweather and have the balls to fight Marigrito.

[eagle]

Theres no point in fighting hatton but for a big draw. After what floyd did to hatton I doubt hatton fans will travel back here in america to see him in another big fight even though his fighting a smaller guy.

As for hattons legacy, it pretty much got tainted by floyds left hook.



I disagree, you don't compare amature career to pro career. for one simple reason....theres an age limit to turn pro, fighters can start their amatures at very young age. so to compare the weight class of an amature to a pro's is rediculous and NO floyd was not the same age as pac was when pac was 106. Floyd must of been 12 years old in his amatures in a kids leage while pac was fighting PRO 106 FIGHTERS. Hope you see the difference. wait in case you don't get it let me repeat...pac was fighting P...R....O....ADULT MEN.... AT 106, and if ever floyd fought at 106.....floyd was fighting....A.M.A.T.U.R.E....LITTLE KIDS.....BIG DIFFERENCE.


IMO

God i hate guys like u who just make stuff up and refuse to research.
PBF win the 1993 national golden gloves at 106 pounds aged 16 not 12. Manny fouht at 106 aged 17, so not a whole lot of difference there.

Keep in mind Floyd was fighting and beating the best 106 pound amatures in the US, some of these guys were real men not 12 yr olds like u inferred.

Add this to the fact that Pac only fought once at 106 and was fighting at 113 a year later. Pacs crappy early opponents were all in their teens or early 20s and none had good records. They certainly wouldnt have been the calibre of fighter that a top US golden gloves amature is..

Well... you also twist the facts for your argument. Pacquiao at the same age as Maweather was 110lbs, and Mayweather was 130lbs. Pacquiao is a legitimately 3 weight classes below Mayweather. There will be doubt about how to measure Pacquiao's greatness until he faces another great welterweight. There is no doubt that Mayweather is a top 100 on the all time greatest fighters list but he is not in a legitimate top 50 list. If Pacquiao were to retire today he is arguably in the top 50 list mostly due to the fact that he rose from 106 to fight at 147 in his professional career. If Pacquiao were to fight Marigrito and win it would solidify him as a top 50 and perhaps put him top 20 all time list. If Mayweather were to defeat Marigrito it would only solidify him as a legitimate top 80 or so. If Mayweather were to defeat Mikkel Kessler at 160lbs it would add a lot more clout to his legacy and perhaps put him in a legitimate top 50 list. A Pacquiao win over Mayweather means much more to boxing history than a Mayweather jr win over Pacquiao. Mayweather jr beating Pacquiao only means Mayweathers' can fly a little longer with their lips.

Pacquiao beating Hatton makes him all the more p4p king and moves him further up the list of all time great fighters. Lets hope that Pacquiao can draw out Mayweather and have the balls to fight Marigrito.

The point i made is that Julius said Floyd was 12 when he was 106 when in fact he was 16. He said that Floyd was fighting little boys when in fact he was fighting the best amatures in the US, who are far better than 0-3 Philipino hacks.

You are nothing more than a Pac fanboy if u think PBF may just sneak into top 100 all time but Pac deserves to be top 50. Fact is naturally Pac and PBF both walk around at about 145-150 between fights and are about the same height so saying Pac is 3 weight divisions below Floyd is utter nonsense. They both weihged high 140's when they fought ODLH. Floyd chose to maove up in weight earlier than Pac, i daresay if he tried he could still be fighting at 135 or even 130 he just chose to move up earlier.

Mikkel Kessler doesnt even fight at 160, he struggles to make 168 at times! Floyd maybe weighs 2 pounds more than manny and is at most 2 inches taller. Kessler is naturally 4-5 inches taller than Floyd and 35-45 pounds heavier.

How can u say Pac beating Margaritio would make him top 20 but PBF only maybe top 80? Please oh please get off Manny's nuts.

Manny has been KO'D beaten and pushed all the way on numerous occasions, Floyd has only been in a really close fight once, and is undefeated which adds to his legacy.

[:::PSL:::]

God i hate guys like u who just make stuff up and refuse to research.
PBF win the 1993 national golden gloves at 106 pounds aged 16 not 12. Manny fouht at 106 aged 17, so not a whole lot of difference there.

Keep in mind Floyd was fighting and beating the best 106 pound amatures in the US, some of these guys were real men not 12 yr olds like u inferred.

Add this to the fact that Pac only fought once at 106 and was fighting at 113 a year later. Pacs crappy early opponents were all in their teens or early 20s and none had good records. They certainly wouldnt have been the calibre of fighter that a top US golden gloves amature is..

Well... you also twist the facts for your argument. Pacquiao at the same age as Maweather was 110lbs, and Mayweather was 130lbs. Pacquiao is a legitimately 3 weight classes below Mayweather. There will be doubt about how to measure Pacquiao's greatness until he faces another great welterweight. There is no doubt that Mayweather is a top 100 on the all time greatest fighters list but he is not in a legitimate top 50 list. If Pacquiao were to retire today he is arguably in the top 50 list mostly due to the fact that he rose from 106 to fight at 147 in his professional career. If Pacquiao were to fight Marigrito and win it would solidify him as a top 50 and perhaps put him top 20 all time list. If Mayweather were to defeat Marigrito it would only solidify him as a legitimate top 80 or so. If Mayweather were to defeat Mikkel Kessler at 160lbs it would add a lot more clout to his legacy and perhaps put him in a legitimate top 50 list. A Pacquiao win over Mayweather means much more to boxing history than a Mayweather jr win over Pacquiao. Mayweather jr beating Pacquiao only means Mayweathers' can fly a little longer with their lips.

Pacquiao beating Hatton makes him all the more p4p king and moves him further up the list of all time great fighters. Lets hope that Pacquiao can draw out Mayweather and have the balls to fight Marigrito.

The point i made is that Julius said Floyd was 12 when he was 106 when in fact he was 16. He said that Floyd was fighting little boys when in fact he was fighting the best amatures in the US, who are far better than 0-3 Philipino hacks.

You are nothing more than a Pac fanboy if u think PBF may just sneak into top 100 all time but Pac deserves to be top 50. Fact is naturally Pac and PBF both walk around at about 145-150 between fights and are about the same height so saying Pac is 3 weight divisions below Floyd is utter nonsense. They both weihged high 140's when they fought ODLH. Floyd chose to maove up in weight earlier than Pac, i daresay if he tried he could still be fighting at 135 or even 130 he just chose to move up earlier.

Mikkel Kessler doesnt even fight at 160, he struggles to make 168 at times! Floyd maybe weighs 2 pounds more than manny and is at most 2 inches taller. Kessler is naturally 4-5 inches taller than Floyd and 35-45 pounds heavier.

How can u say Pac beating Margaritio would make him top 20 but PBF only maybe top 80? Please oh please get off Manny's nuts.

Manny has been KO'D beaten and pushed all the way on numerous occasions, Floyd has only been in a really close fight once, and is undefeated which adds to his legacy.

The only reason Floyd is undefeated is he retired in his prime and he'll NEVER get his respect in the eyes of many. He'll be remembered not only as "number 80" in ATG, but also as the number 1 pussy ass bitch.

Margarito or even Cotto would rape his ass and you know it!

[eagle]

Well... you also twist the facts for your argument. Pacquiao at the same age as Maweather was 110lbs, and Mayweather was 130lbs. Pacquiao is a legitimately 3 weight classes below Mayweather. There will be doubt about how to measure Pacquiao's greatness until he faces another great welterweight. There is no doubt that Mayweather is a top 100 on the all time greatest fighters list but he is not in a legitimate top 50 list. If Pacquiao were to retire today he is arguably in the top 50 list mostly due to the fact that he rose from 106 to fight at 147 in his professional career. If Pacquiao were to fight Marigrito and win it would solidify him as a top 50 and perhaps put him top 20 all time list. If Mayweather were to defeat Marigrito it would only solidify him as a legitimate top 80 or so. If Mayweather were to defeat Mikkel Kessler at 160lbs it would add a lot more clout to his legacy and perhaps put him in a legitimate top 50 list. A Pacquiao win over Mayweather means much more to boxing history than a Mayweather jr win over Pacquiao. Mayweather jr beating Pacquiao only means Mayweathers' can fly a little longer with their lips.

Pacquiao beating Hatton makes him all the more p4p king and moves him further up the list of all time great fighters. Lets hope that Pacquiao can draw out Mayweather and have the balls to fight Marigrito.

The point i made is that Julius said Floyd was 12 when he was 106 when in fact he was 16. He said that Floyd was fighting little boys when in fact he was fighting the best amatures in the US, who are far better than 0-3 Philipino hacks.

You are nothing more than a Pac fanboy if u think PBF may just sneak into top 100 all time but Pac deserves to be top 50. Fact is naturally Pac and PBF both walk around at about 145-150 between fights and are about the same height so saying Pac is 3 weight divisions below Floyd is utter nonsense. They both weihged high 140's when they fought ODLH. Floyd chose to maove up in weight earlier than Pac, i daresay if he tried he could still be fighting at 135 or even 130 he just chose to move up earlier.

Mikkel Kessler doesnt even fight at 160, he struggles to make 168 at times! Floyd maybe weighs 2 pounds more than manny and is at most 2 inches taller. Kessler is naturally 4-5 inches taller than Floyd and 35-45 pounds heavier.

How can u say Pac beating Margaritio would make him top 20 but PBF only maybe top 80? Please oh please get off Manny's nuts.

Manny has been KO'D beaten and pushed all the way on numerous occasions, Floyd has only been in a really close fight once, and is undefeated which adds to his legacy.

The only reason Floyd is undefeated is he retired in his prime and he'll NEVER get his respect in the eyes of many. He'll be remembered not only as "number 80" in ATG, but also as the number 1 pussy ass bitch.

Margarito or even Cotto would rape his ass and you know it!

Margo and cotto would not destroy PBF, but theyd definitely fuck up Pac, as would Floyd.

I cannot believe u support fanjohnny even tho everything he says is utter nonsense. Kessler 160? Pac top 20, PBF not top 100? That alone shows how little he knows. Like a typical Pac fanboy u jump on anyone who doubts Pac in any way. It gets old. Floyd would beat him and probably will.

Pussy ass bitch hey? We'll see when he stomps on Pac, if Pac wins a round v Hatton.

[CFH]

Well... you also twist the facts for your argument. Pacquiao at the same age as Maweather was 110lbs, and Mayweather was 130lbs. Pacquiao is a legitimately 3 weight classes below Mayweather. There will be doubt about how to measure Pacquiao's greatness until he faces another great welterweight. There is no doubt that Mayweather is a top 100 on the all time greatest fighters list but he is not in a legitimate top 50 list. If Pacquiao were to retire today he is arguably in the top 50 list mostly due to the fact that he rose from 106 to fight at 147 in his professional career. If Pacquiao were to fight Marigrito and win it would solidify him as a top 50 and perhaps put him top 20 all time list. If Mayweather were to defeat Marigrito it would only solidify him as a legitimate top 80 or so. If Mayweather were to defeat Mikkel Kessler at 160lbs it would add a lot more clout to his legacy and perhaps put him in a legitimate top 50 list. A Pacquiao win over Mayweather means much more to boxing history than a Mayweather jr win over Pacquiao. Mayweather jr beating Pacquiao only means Mayweathers' can fly a little longer with their lips.

Pacquiao beating Hatton makes him all the more p4p king and moves him further up the list of all time great fighters. Lets hope that Pacquiao can draw out Mayweather and have the balls to fight Marigrito.

The point i made is that Julius said Floyd was 12 when he was 106 when in fact he was 16. He said that Floyd was fighting little boys when in fact he was fighting the best amatures in the US, who are far better than 0-3 Philipino hacks.

You are nothing more than a Pac fanboy if u think PBF may just sneak into top 100 all time but Pac deserves to be top 50. Fact is naturally Pac and PBF both walk around at about 145-150 between fights and are about the same height so saying Pac is 3 weight divisions below Floyd is utter nonsense. They both weihged high 140's when they fought ODLH. Floyd chose to maove up in weight earlier than Pac, i daresay if he tried he could still be fighting at 135 or even 130 he just chose to move up earlier.

Mikkel Kessler doesnt even fight at 160, he struggles to make 168 at times! Floyd maybe weighs 2 pounds more than manny and is at most 2 inches taller. Kessler is naturally 4-5 inches taller than Floyd and 35-45 pounds heavier.

How can u say Pac beating Margaritio would make him top 20 but PBF only maybe top 80? Please oh please get off Manny's nuts.

Manny has been KO'D beaten and pushed all the way on numerous occasions, Floyd has only been in a really close fight once, and is undefeated which adds to his legacy.

The only reason Floyd is undefeated is he retired in his prime and he'll NEVER get his respect in the eyes of many. He'll be remembered not only as "number 80" in ATG, but also as the number 1 pussy ass bitch.

Margarito or even Cotto would rape his ass and you know it!

Picked today to go off your meds did ya?

How exactly would they "rape his ass"?

[CFH]

Theres no point in fighting hatton but for a big draw. After what floyd did to hatton I doubt hatton fans will travel back here in america to see him in another big fight even though his fighting a smaller guy.

As for hattons legacy, it pretty much got tainted by floyds left hook.



I disagree, you don't compare amature career to pro career. for one simple reason....theres an age limit to turn pro, fighters can start their amatures at very young age. so to compare the weight class of an amature to a pro's is rediculous and NO floyd was not the same age as pac was when pac was 106. Floyd must of been 12 years old in his amatures in a kids leage while pac was fighting PRO 106 FIGHTERS. Hope you see the difference. wait in case you don't get it let me repeat...pac was fighting P...R....O....ADULT MEN.... AT 106, and if ever floyd fought at 106.....floyd was fighting....A.M.A.T.U.R.E....LITTLE KIDS.....BIG DIFFERENCE.


IMO

God i hate guys like u who just make stuff up and refuse to research.
PBF win the 1993 national golden gloves at 106 pounds aged 16 not 12. Manny fouht at 106 aged 17, so not a whole lot of difference there.

Keep in mind Floyd was fighting and beating the best 106 pound amatures in the US, some of these guys were real men not 12 yr olds like u inferred.

Add this to the fact that Pac only fought once at 106 and was fighting at 113 a year later. Pacs crappy early opponents were all in their teens or early 20s and none had good records. They certainly wouldnt have been the calibre of fighter that a top US golden gloves amature is..

Well... you also twist the facts for your argument. Pacquiao at the same age as Maweather was 110lbs, and Mayweather was 130lbs. Pacquiao is a legitimately 3 weight classes below Mayweather. There will be doubt about how to measure Pacquiao's greatness until he faces another great welterweight. There is no doubt that Mayweather is a top 100 on the all time greatest fighters list but he is not in a legitimate top 50 list. If Pacquiao were to retire today he is arguably in the top 50 list mostly due to the fact that he rose from 106 to fight at 147 in his professional career. If Pacquiao were to fight Marigrito and win it would solidify him as a top 50 and perhaps put him top 20 all time list. If Mayweather were to defeat Marigrito it would only solidify him as a legitimate top 80 or so. If Mayweather were to defeat Mikkel Kessler at 160lbs it would add a lot more clout to his legacy and perhaps put him in a legitimate top 50 list. A Pacquiao win over Mayweather means much more to boxing history than a Mayweather jr win over Pacquiao. Mayweather jr beating Pacquiao only means Mayweathers' can fly a little longer with their lips.

Pacquiao beating Hatton makes him all the more p4p king and moves him further up the list of all time great fighters. Lets hope that Pacquiao can draw out Mayweather and have the balls to fight Marigrito.

You're fucking nuts.

"Mayweather jr beating Pacquiao only means Mayweathers' can fly a little longer with their lips."

What does that even mean?

Goddamn Pac fanboys.

[miron_lang]

Manny Pacquiao from age 21

- Had 3 fights ar Flyweight
-12 fights at 122lbs.

And was 24 againts Barrera at 126


Floyd Mayweather Jr. from age 21

- Had 8 fights @130
- 7 fights @135

and was 24 againts Jose Luis Castillo @135


Manny Pacquiao is smaller than Floyd Mayweather Jr. if you dont want to believe that you can say Floyd Mayweather Jr. is bigger than Manny Pacquiao.

Both of them fighting @106 at age 16 means nothing really. Pac stops growing maybe because he's naturally smaller? WTF?!!

[leftylee]

Theres no point in fighting hatton but for a big draw. After what floyd did to hatton I doubt hatton fans will travel back here in america to see him in another big fight even though his fighting a smaller guy.

As for hattons legacy, it pretty much got tainted by floyds left hook.

I've really talked myself into a total 180 over the last day or so in terms of my feelings on this fight.. First of all, IF Pac were to win, it would be a very impressive feat no doubt... BUT, the guy as far as I know, didn't have an amatuer career, and started out in the pro's. This is really misleading when people want to talk about him having fought at flyweight and thus can't possibly move up as far as 140.. For those who didn't know, Mayweather fought at 106 pounds as well, when he was an amtuer... But I'm fairly sure he was the same age as Pac was when he fought there... Thus, it is really no more impressive than Mayweather having already beaten Hatton, side for the fact that Mayweather had much more time to settle in to the weight classs.. But still, in terms of a historical sense, should Pac beat Hatton... Mayweather has already done almost exactly the same thing... The only difference is that Mayweather established himself at the weight before beating Hatton..

that is as good a post as i have ever seen on this forum.

brilliant.

I disagree, you don't compare amature career to pro career. for one simple reason....theres an age limit to turn pro, fighters can start their amatures at very young age. so to compare the weight class of an amature to a pro's is rediculous and NO floyd was not the same age as pac was when pac was 106. Floyd must of been 12 years old in his amatures in a kids leage while pac was fighting PRO 106 FIGHTERS. Hope you see the difference. wait in case you don't get it let me repeat...pac was fighting P...R....O....ADULT MEN.... AT 106, and if ever floyd fought at 106.....floyd was fighting....A.M.A.T.U.R.E....LITTLE KIDS.....BIG DIFFERENCE.


IMO

You got to be kidding me, right ?

Hatton fans are the best in the world, they travel anywhere and everywhere to see Ricky fight. If Pac does fight Hatton the MGM will be invaded by Brits once again.

And I don't think PBF will damage Hatton's legacy that much. Hatton will be remembered as a fearless 140 pounder who beat everybody.

He didn't fight PBF at 140 pounds. Everyone knew including Hatton that 147 wasn't his division. Yet he still had the balls to fight the P4P number 1 outside his weightclass. Talk about courage.

[eagle]

Manny Pacquiao from age 21

- Had 3 fights ar Flyweight
-12 fights at 122lbs.

And was 24 againts Barrera at 126


Floyd Mayweather Jr. from age 21

- Had 8 fights @130
- 7 fights @135

and was 24 againts Jose Luis Castillo @135


Manny Pacquiao is smaller than Floyd Mayweather Jr. if you dont want to believe that you can say Floyd Mayweather Jr. is bigger than Manny Pacquiao.

Both of them fighting @106 at age 16 means nothing really. Pac stops growing maybe because he's naturally smaller? WTF?!!

Floyd mayweather is 5 ft 7 and his in between fights weight is approx 145-150

Manny Pac is 5 ft 6 and his in between fight weight is 145-150

Please explain to me how that makes Floyd 3 divisions bigger than Pac as was stated fy fanjohnny? The same guy who said Floyd would have to beat Kessler who is naturally 185-190 to add some credibility to his resume. A guy comes out with quotes like thatr and i use stone cold facts yet it is me who u think is worng and not him? Another Pac nuthugger, its too easy making u look foolish.

Could it be possible that Floyd found fighting at the lower weights far easier than Pac and hence that is why he moved up faster? While Pac was losing and going life and death with the likes of Morales, and Marquez, Floyd was dispensing of similiarly skilled bigger fighters. Please remember Floyd has never moved up cos he has struggled to make weight.

Using your logic Floyd is a smaller man than Hatton, cos he started at a lower weight so u could argue fighting at 147 was an advantage to Hatton, which it obviously wasnt.

Fact is Floyd is only one maybe 2 inches taller than Pac and their natural weight is almost identical. So fact is Floyd is by no means a much larger fighter and them fighting in the same division would be fair.

[Pavlik]

PBF is 5'8" not 5'7"
while PAC is 5'6"

Pac started at 106 while PBF at 130

I would not say that PBF is 3 weight classes bigger than PAC naturally but the fact remains that PBF is STILL bigger than PAC which makes PAC's accomplishment of stopping the Likes of DelaHoya WORTH considering a FEAT or bigger accomplishment than eaking out a split decision.

Just by looking at the muscle mass and frame of both fighters you will already see PBF being the bigger and taller guy. At their last welterweight outings floyd weigh-in 147 vs. Hatton while PAC was 142 vs. Oscar.
I'd say PBF is at least 5 lbs. naturally bigger than PAC

[Pavlik]

As it is PAC is already a GREAT, A LEGEND in my eyes. But no matter what PAC does whether he beats Hatton and PBF he will be scrutinized for fighting a "past his prime" fighter.
When he stopped an older and looked like a drained Oscar, it does not change the fact that Oscar was still the BIGGER, STRONGER and supposedly more SKILLED fighter with a DREAM TEAM(composed of Beristain, I forgot the conditioning coach, Dundee and so forth) and still got beat.
Pacquiao is a fighter who beats the odds who would've thought that he would kayo the likes of Barrera, Morales and DelaHoya.
Pacquiao should be remembered as a GREAT champion of the masses who showed us that everything is possible. Though not flawless has a heart and will of a warrior and philantrophist rolled into one.

A message to PAC: Ignore the haters, Just keep on fightin!!!