Plaster Vs. Steriods

[X]

That Miss Ogynistic is a right gold-digging whore.

[Chino]

Chino...i'm not looking for ways around anything. You are looking for ways around having to explain your fascination with hating women and rape.

See what I mean? I used an example to follow the thread's topic and just to express how Margarito could end up, and how Nazim is not the villain either, and you twisted this to making me a woman hater or whatever. Then comes

It's also quite misogynistic

So what's your opinion on this whole plaster vs steroids? :roll:

[CFH]

Chino...i'm not looking for ways around anything. You are looking for ways around having to explain your fascination with hating women and rape.

See what I mean? I used an example to follow the thread's topic and just to express how Margarito could end up, and how Nazim is not the villain either, and you twisted this to making me a woman hater or whatever. Then comes

It's also quite misogynistic

So what's your opinion on this whole plaster vs steroids? :roll:

My opinion is that you are a misogynist, one that has not yet mastered the proper use of smilies.

The plaster is much more troubling than steroid use.

[Chino]

My opinion is that you are a misogynist, one that has not yet mastered the proper use of smilies

I am surprised. Was not expecting that from you who were complaining before about people who don't stay on topic and all and now you are name calling, eh?...oooook, sure.

The plaster is much more troubling than steroid use

Aaaaaaaaanyways, back on topic...both are wrong, both are cheating, but stuffing something in your gloves may even sound comical. Guilty or not, it will be hard for people to believe in him. Guilty or not, his image/credibility is damaged already. I can imagine people booing him on his next fight before and after the fight (win or lose).

[CFH]

My opinion is that you are a misogynist, one that has not yet mastered the proper use of smilies

I am surprised. Was not expecting that from you who were complaining before about people who don't stay on topic and all and now you are name calling, eh?...oooook, sure.

The plaster is much more troubling than steroid use

Aaaaaaaaanyways, back on topic...both are wrong, both are cheating, but stuffing something in your gloves may even sound comical. Guilty or not, it will be hard for people to believe in him. Guilty or not, his image/credibility is damaged already. I can imagine people booing him on his next fight before and after the fight (win or lose).

I've never complained about people not staying on topic. I have however complained numerous times about you repeating your little mantra's over and over again.

I wasn't calling you a name either, I just merely stating that your post(s) were misogynistic.

Both are cheating, but plastering the gloves is much more dangerous than steroids.

[Chino]

I've never complained about people not staying on topic. I have however complained numerous times about you repeating your little mantra's over and over again.

Sure, when you see another thread or post talking about how Cotto is all that, you'll see me there just like you see the same people in any threads that talk about ODLH to throw crap at him. Some people are attracted to certain topics more than others, that's all.

Both are cheating, but plastering the gloves is much more dangerous than steroids

Could be, could be. It sucks that Margarito's reputation is ruined no matter what, huh?

[CFH]

I've never complained about people not staying on topic. I have however complained numerous times about you repeating your little mantra's over and over again.

Sure, when you see another thread or post talking about how Cotto is all that, you'll see me there just like you see the same people in any threads that talk about ODLH to throw crap at him. Some people are attracted to certain topics more than others, that's all.

We've been over this many times, you know my opinion about it, so I'm not going to address it any further.

Both are cheating, but plastering the gloves is much more dangerous than steroids

Could be, could be. It sucks that Margarito's reputation is ruined no matter what, huh?

It's a shame that his rep is ruined if he and his team are innocent. I'm not convinced he's guilty yet, but things sure aren't looking to good for him at the moment. However, I'm sure he can dry his tears with the millions of dollars he has accumulated. Maybe a swim in his money bin will cheer him up.

[DC Amateur Boxing]

Lie detectors are very inaccurate, that's why they are inadmissable in court. Very unreliable.

Wrong!!! I know this isn't law school, but they are reliable and used in evidence in many federal and about 20 or so state courts.

In United States v. Scheffer 1998, the U.S. Supreme Court left it up to individual jurisdictions whether polygraph results could be admitted as evidence in court cases. Nevertheless, it is used extensively by prosecutors, defense attorneys, and law enforcement agencies. In 2007, in Ohio v. Sharma, an Ohio trial court overruled the objections of a prosecutor and allowed a polygraph examiner to testify regarding a specific issue criminal examination. The court took the position that the prosecutors regularly used a polygraph examiner to conduct criminal tests against defendants, but only objected to the examiner's testimony when the results contradicted what they hoped to achieve

Anyhow, what guilty person ever agrees to take a polygraph? I sure wouldn't. Who lies and then sues someone for defamation to perpetuate that same lie? Who would pay for illegal drugs with a check? (other than Jerry Springer who was removed as Mayor for paying a hooker with a check). I'm not a Shane fanatic, but it just looks to me like he got caught up making some bad choices - but he wasn't complicit.

AND NO, I'M NOT A LAWYER. . .BUT I DIDN'T STAY AT A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS ONCE.

[DC Amateur Boxing]

Arent we supposed to assume someone is innocent until proven guilty?

Yes, but in this case he admitted he may have taken them, but he is saying he didn't do it knowingly. He can't really say what exactly he was taking, only what they told him - so he cannot say 100% that he didn't because they were giving him 'something'.

[X]

They are not admissible in court in Europe or the UK, Africa, the Middle east, India, Australia, New Zealand or most of Asia.

[Andre]

And if he had is found innocent? look at the black mark thats left on his record regardless.

Sad but true .
It's like those goldigging slutty whores who falsely accuse rich men of rape and when these men are found innocent. These guys' reputation is already damaged FOR EVER. They loose their jobs, friends, etc. While the false accusing bitch prances her way out of the court and looks for another victim to make her rich.

As for Nazim, he has every right to question what's going on in the other corner and if Margarito didn't have anything then let it be.

I'm sorry, but this is a fairly poor analysis IMO.

And this is the court of public opinion. And the point is simple, and especially in my reply. When people like Onix try to attack Mosely in defence of Margo, if causes people like myself to draw a line and make statements one way or another.

So basically, if you can't be objective and just quietly wait for the full truth to come out, then don't biatch about what those who may not feel the same as you...have to say.

In other words, you can't be walking around flapping your lips on the topic, and expect others to be quiet and not express opinion ...just because they don't agree with you.

Imagine prior to testing how many people would of fought on cocaine.They could kill you and themselves while they were at it, but I bet we'd all be shocked to find out all the world time greats in many sports as well as music who excelled in those times with that help.

Regarding plaster in wraps you could easily say it was talc powder that dried up and set.You would think if they were going to try and put plaster into layers of wraps they would mix talcum powder into it so if caught and tested they had a built in question mark to confuse the authorites.

Something weird is going on you would think they'd know exactly what was in them by now.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Polygraph evidence is presently inadmissible in Canada and many jurisdictions of the United States. One of the major reasons for its exclusion lies in the belief (held by members of the judiciary) that jurors would accept such evidence without question due to its technical/scientific nature. The question of such blind acceptance was examined in two experiments on the influence of polygraph evidence on people's judgements of guilt. A second question that was also raised was whether a caution on the limitations of the polygraph would be effective in reducing people's weighting of such evidence. Although polygraph evidence was expected to exert some influence over judgements of guilt, it was not expected to be so great as to result in blind acceptance

SpringerLink - Journal Article

[Chino]

Imagine prior to testing how many people would of fought on cocaine.They could kill you and themselves while they were at it, but I bet we'd all be shocked to find out all the world time greats in many sports as well as music who excelled in those times with that help.

I know, it’s a bit sad. I was talking to a friend about how sports now are not so much about how fast I run against you but about how fast I run, how good my "enhancers" are vs yours, how fast my super sonic speed suit is vs yours, etc.

Something weird is going on you would think they'd know exactly what was in them by now

Still waiting, still waiting.

[DC Amateur Boxing]

Polygraph evidence is presently inadmissible in Canada and many jurisdictions of the United States. One of the major reasons for its exclusion lies in the belief (held by members of the judiciary) that jurors would accept such evidence without question due to its technical/scientific nature. The question of such blind acceptance was examined in two experiments on the influence of polygraph evidence on people's judgements of guilt. A second question that was also raised was whether a caution on the limitations of the polygraph would be effective in reducing people's weighting of such evidence. Although polygraph evidence was expected to exert some influence over judgements of guilt, it was not expected to be so great as to result in blind acceptance

SpringerLink - Journal Article

Don't really know what the point is here, but the fact remains that polygraphs have sent people back to jail and polygraphs have exonerated people in the United States and in other countries. You can't argue with facts, man. Fact: Man sex offenders in the US must take routine polygraph tests and some are violated and sent to prison for failing them.Law.com - 2nd Circuit Approves Post-Release Use of Polygraph In the UK, they are required in some cases too Offender Management Act 2007 (c. 21) BTW, your law journal link is research and an empirical (relying on experience or observation alone often without due regard for system and theory) study of a hypothesis (assumption). It is NOT fact of law or the result of an actual adjudicated case - so it might as well be from something you saw in a movie. Plus you should probably read the full text and not just the abstract.

[boozeboxer]

Overwhelming case law and the evidentiary rules excludes the use of polygraph tests because of the unreliablity they produce and the magic effect they have on a jury...