Another kahn critic

[Kev]

Sorry Feeney but I'm 100% with Bilbo on this.

What pretty much EVERYBODY seems to forget is that Khan is just 22 years old. 22 years old FFS!!!

At that age 90% of pro boxers haven't even registered on the radar yet. The difference with Khan is because of his Olympic success.Sure he's getting all the breaks and money boxers equally as good him never normally get, but he's under the microscope having every fight over examined and each opponent picked apart.

I hate to say it but Warren is just doing his job. Khan should be in with blown up FW's and nobodies, he needs to learn his trade first just like every other Pro boxer out there.

If when Bilbo asks to provide another resume from a 22 year old boxer that can rival Khan's and all that can be provided is PBF or Vargas - well, that just says it all doesn't it!

By the time Barrera was Khans age he had defended his world title 6 times. Khan hasnt even challenged for the British title yet and has already been knocked out by an unknown .

Yep so now we can add another all time great time, first ballot Hall of Fame probably one of the best 10 fighters in the last 15 years to the list that are performing better than Khan by the age of 22.

Why not throw Mike Tyson's name out there

Seriously you guys are just making my point for me. The onlt fighters you can name with better resumes are Hall of Famers and NONE of them are 22 year old prospects now.

Please listen carefully to my question again.

If Khan is so poor and overatted and his resume sucks so bad please tell me all the fighters in the world who are the same age as Khan now, or younger and who have better resumes than he does.

And that's only the first part of the question. The second part was to find a fighter with a better resume and the same age as Khan AND who is also not seen as a super prospect and future world star.

Name ONE other 22 year fighter or younger in the world who holds a win over a AN ALL TIME GREAT AND LEGEND who only a couple years ago was in the top 5 p4p in the world and who has fought and gone the distance with the best two fighters on the planet in the last couple years.

Just point him out to me and you can shut me up.


All you people discrediting Khan's victory like it was nothing are just blind haters.

Yes, he's chinny, yes he's been carefully managed but he's also a super talent and potential world star of boxing.

[GAME]

Sorry Feeney but I'm 100% with Bilbo on this.

What pretty much EVERYBODY seems to forget is that Khan is just 22 years old. 22 years old FFS!!!

At that age 90% of pro boxers haven't even registered on the radar yet. The difference with Khan is because of his Olympic success.Sure he's getting all the breaks and money boxers equally as good him never normally get, but he's under the microscope having every fight over examined and each opponent picked apart.

I hate to say it but Warren is just doing his job. Khan should be in with blown up FW's and nobodies, he needs to learn his trade first just like every other Pro boxer out there.

If when Bilbo asks to provide another resume from a 22 year old boxer that can rival Khan's and all that can be provided is PBF or Vargas - well, that just says it all doesn't it!

By the time Barrera was Khans age he had defended his world title 6 times. Khan hasnt even challenged for the British title yet and has already been knocked out by an unknown .

Yep so now we can add another all time great time, first ballot Hall of Fame probably one of the best 10 fighters in the last 15 years to the list that are performing better than Khan by the age of 22.

Why not throw Mike Tyson's name out there

Seriously you guys are just making my point for me. The onlt fighters you can name with better resumes are Hall of Famers and NONE of them are 22 year old prospects now.

Please listen carefully to my question again.

If Khan is so poor and overatted and his resume sucks so bad please tell me all the fighters in the world who are the same age as Khan now, or younger and who have better resumes than he does.

And that's only the first part of the question. The second part was to find a fighter with a better resume and the same age as Khan AND who is also not seen as a super prospect and future world star.

Name ONE other 22 year fighter or younger in the world who holds a win over a AN ALL TIME GREAT AND LEGEND who only a couple years ago was in the top 5 p4p in the world and who has fought and gone the distance with the best two fighters on the planet in the last couple years.

Just point him out to me and you can shut me up.


All you people discrediting Khan's victory like it was nothing are just blind haters.

Yes, he's chinny, yes he's been carefully managed but he's also a super talent and potential world star of boxing.

Can you name one fighter that has been given such undeserved opportunities though ? Thats why he is where he is. I cant think of anyone who was blown away in seconds by a nobody then given a shot to get an ATG on his record.

As for the name Barrera on his resume. People wont view that as a win because a headbutt stopped the fight . Should have been a NC not satisfactory at all. ( apart from to the Khan bummers)

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Sorry Feeney but I'm 100% with Bilbo on this.

What pretty much EVERYBODY seems to forget is that Khan is just 22 years old. 22 years old FFS!!!

At that age 90% of pro boxers haven't even registered on the radar yet. The difference with Khan is because of his Olympic success.Sure he's getting all the breaks and money boxers equally as good him never normally get, but he's under the microscope having every fight over examined and each opponent picked apart.

I hate to say it but Warren is just doing his job. Khan should be in with blown up FW's and nobodies, he needs to learn his trade first just like every other Pro boxer out there.

If when Bilbo asks to provide another resume from a 22 year old boxer that can rival Khan's and all that can be provided is PBF or Vargas - well, that just says it all doesn't it!

By the time Barrera was Khans age he had defended his world title 6 times. Khan hasnt even challenged for the British title yet and has already been knocked out by an unknown .

Yep so now we can add another all time great time, first ballot Hall of Fame probably one of the best 10 fighters in the last 15 years to the list that are performing better than Khan by the age of 22.

Why not throw Mike Tyson's name out there

Seriously you guys are just making my point for me. The onlt fighters you can name with better resumes are Hall of Famers and NONE of them are 22 year old prospects now.

Please listen carefully to my question again.

If Khan is so poor and overatted and his resume sucks so bad please tell me all the fighters in the world who are the same age as Khan now, or younger and who have better resumes than he does.

And that's only the first part of the question. The second part was to find a fighter with a better resume and the same age as Khan AND who is also not seen as a super prospect and future world star.

Name ONE other 22 year fighter or younger in the world who holds a win over a AN ALL TIME GREAT AND LEGEND who only a couple years ago was in the top 5 p4p in the world and who has fought and gone the distance with the best two fighters on the planet in the last couple years.

Just point him out to me and you can shut me up.


All you people discrediting Khan's victory like it was nothing are just blind haters.

Yes, he's chinny, yes he's been carefully managed but he's also a super talent and potential world star of boxing.

Bilbo you know you're acting like a troll.

The only thing blind about this was Barrera from halfway in the 1st round.

[Kev]

By the time Barrera was Khans age he had defended his world title 6 times. Khan hasnt even challenged for the British title yet and has already been knocked out by an unknown .

Yep so now we can add another all time great time, first ballot Hall of Fame probably one of the best 10 fighters in the last 15 years to the list that are performing better than Khan by the age of 22.

Why not throw Mike Tyson's name out there

Seriously you guys are just making my point for me. The onlt fighters you can name with better resumes are Hall of Famers and NONE of them are 22 year old prospects now.

Please listen carefully to my question again.

If Khan is so poor and overatted and his resume sucks so bad please tell me all the fighters in the world who are the same age as Khan now, or younger and who have better resumes than he does.

And that's only the first part of the question. The second part was to find a fighter with a better resume and the same age as Khan AND who is also not seen as a super prospect and future world star.

Name ONE other 22 year fighter or younger in the world who holds a win over a AN ALL TIME GREAT AND LEGEND who only a couple years ago was in the top 5 p4p in the world and who has fought and gone the distance with the best two fighters on the planet in the last couple years.

Just point him out to me and you can shut me up.


All you people discrediting Khan's victory like it was nothing are just blind haters.

Yes, he's chinny, yes he's been carefully managed but he's also a super talent and potential world star of boxing.

Can you name one fighter that has been given such undeserved opportunities though ? Thats why he is where he is. I cant think of anyone who was blown away in seconds by a nobody then given a shot to get an ATG on his record.

As for the name Barrera on his resume. People wont view that as a win because a headbutt stopped the fight . Should have been a NC not satisfactory at all. ( apart from to the Khan bummers)

How is his opportunity undeserved, he's an Olympic Silver Medalist and one of the biggest names in British boxing. Marco Antonio Barrera needed Khan every bit as much as Khan needed him, that's why he was willing to come to the UK to fight him. Khan generates interest and therefore money.

Besides Barrera isn't a world champion and wasn't even rated at lightweight so what about Khan facing him is undeserved? Who did deserve the shot at Barrera in your eyes?

And besides Barrera what other undeserved opportunities did he have? Was he not ready to fight Willie Limond? Did he jump the cue for Graham Earl and Michael Gomez.

Before you were criticising him for not making the big fights now your criticising the biggest name on his record and saying he shouldn't have had the chance in the first place?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Bilbo. You know that was a shitty 'win'.

[ono]

By the time Barrera was Khans age he had defended his world title 6 times. Khan hasnt even challenged for the British title yet and has already been knocked out by an unknown .

Yep so now we can add another all time great time, first ballot Hall of Fame probably one of the best 10 fighters in the last 15 years to the list that are performing better than Khan by the age of 22.

Why not throw Mike Tyson's name out there

Seriously you guys are just making my point for me. The onlt fighters you can name with better resumes are Hall of Famers and NONE of them are 22 year old prospects now.

Please listen carefully to my question again.

If Khan is so poor and overatted and his resume sucks so bad please tell me all the fighters in the world who are the same age as Khan now, or younger and who have better resumes than he does.

And that's only the first part of the question. The second part was to find a fighter with a better resume and the same age as Khan AND who is also not seen as a super prospect and future world star.

Name ONE other 22 year fighter or younger in the world who holds a win over a AN ALL TIME GREAT AND LEGEND who only a couple years ago was in the top 5 p4p in the world and who has fought and gone the distance with the best two fighters on the planet in the last couple years.

Just point him out to me and you can shut me up.


All you people discrediting Khan's victory like it was nothing are just blind haters.

Yes, he's chinny, yes he's been carefully managed but he's also a super talent and potential world star of boxing.

Can you name one fighter that has been given such undeserved opportunities though ? Thats why he is where he is. I cant think of anyone who was blown away in seconds by a nobody then given a shot to get an ATG on his record.

As for the name Barrera on his resume. People wont view that as a win because a headbutt stopped the fight . Should have been a NC not satisfactory at all. ( apart from to the Khan bummers)

What about Sammy Ventura and the bum he (MAB) fought before that? Were they more deserving thanh Khan?

I'm not sure what other underserved opportunities he's had? He's been brought along like every other prospect. Every other prospect has a list of fighters who have a low chance of defeating the prospect broken up by the occassional ex-champ, and in the case that the prospect is deemed something special, they may face a an exceptional former world champion who is well past his best.

After coming back against two bums, and a couple of years after losing widely to Pac and JMM, who the heck did you expect Barrera to get in the ring with?

Valero? - a Guy who has made the majority of his record fighting complete bums, broken up with the odd average fighter?

Juan Diaz - Was already fighting JMM so that wasn't possible.

Katsidis - What would be the point....off the back of two losses, only really has 1 decent win over Graham Earl - a result which Khan easily beat....considering Katsidis was almost ko'd himself.

Ali funeka and Nate Campbell wasn't possible for the date

It only leads a handful of fighters who are ranked in the top 15 really. A few of them are prospects who have no more right than Khan to face MAB. Guzman is the only other stand out name but what chance would MAB have in that fight?

[feeney]

heres a prospect for you bilbo hes a couple of years older than kahn has won domestic titles is undefeated with a very impressive resume win over an emerging superstar, And to add sugar to the win this emerging superstar that he knocked out in a round just beat a legend. His name is breidis prescott, 21-0 18ko's. This man lived above a shop had no access to the training and equipment kahn had but still took his chance and blew kahn away. Im am not a kahn hater hes brilliantly fast, good boxer, I dont feel he deserves the hype, As i said before a good promoter can take you along way and make people think your a superstar, make you appear to be one, But he isnt. If someone mentions kahns age again ill scream if hes that great age shouldnt matter, Tyson,naz,barrera, All won world titles at a young age and didnt carry olympic silver medals with them.

[GAME]

Yep so now we can add another all time great time, first ballot Hall of Fame probably one of the best 10 fighters in the last 15 years to the list that are performing better than Khan by the age of 22.

Why not throw Mike Tyson's name out there

Seriously you guys are just making my point for me. The onlt fighters you can name with better resumes are Hall of Famers and NONE of them are 22 year old prospects now.

Please listen carefully to my question again.

If Khan is so poor and overatted and his resume sucks so bad please tell me all the fighters in the world who are the same age as Khan now, or younger and who have better resumes than he does.

And that's only the first part of the question. The second part was to find a fighter with a better resume and the same age as Khan AND who is also not seen as a super prospect and future world star.

Name ONE other 22 year fighter or younger in the world who holds a win over a AN ALL TIME GREAT AND LEGEND who only a couple years ago was in the top 5 p4p in the world and who has fought and gone the distance with the best two fighters on the planet in the last couple years.

Just point him out to me and you can shut me up.


All you people discrediting Khan's victory like it was nothing are just blind haters.

Yes, he's chinny, yes he's been carefully managed but he's also a super talent and potential world star of boxing.

Can you name one fighter that has been given such undeserved opportunities though ? Thats why he is where he is. I cant think of anyone who was blown away in seconds by a nobody then given a shot to get an ATG on his record.

As for the name Barrera on his resume. People wont view that as a win because a headbutt stopped the fight . Should have been a NC not satisfactory at all. ( apart from to the Khan bummers)

How is his opportunity undeserved, he's an Olympic Silver Medalist and one of the biggest names in British boxing. Marco Antonio Barrera needed Khan every bit as much as Khan needed him, that's why he was willing to come to the UK to fight him. Khan generates interest and therefore money.

Besides Barrera isn't a world champion and wasn't even rated at lightweight so what about Khan facing him is undeserved? Who did deserve the shot at Barrera in your eyes?

And besides Barrera what other undeserved opportunities did he have? Was he not ready to fight Willie Limond? Did he jump the cue for Graham Earl and Michael Gomez.

Before you were criticising him for not making the big fights now your criticising the biggest name on his record and saying he shouldn't have had the chance in the first place?

If you think a guy who got beaten inside a minute by an unknown is more deserving of a superfight than someone who has paid their dues like Thaxton then thats fair enough . Thats all I needed to know about you . Lets leave it there .

[Kev]

Can you name one fighter that has been given such undeserved opportunities though ? Thats why he is where he is. I cant think of anyone who was blown away in seconds by a nobody then given a shot to get an ATG on his record.

As for the name Barrera on his resume. People wont view that as a win because a headbutt stopped the fight . Should have been a NC not satisfactory at all. ( apart from to the Khan bummers)

How is his opportunity undeserved, he's an Olympic Silver Medalist and one of the biggest names in British boxing. Marco Antonio Barrera needed Khan every bit as much as Khan needed him, that's why he was willing to come to the UK to fight him. Khan generates interest and therefore money.

Besides Barrera isn't a world champion and wasn't even rated at lightweight so what about Khan facing him is undeserved? Who did deserve the shot at Barrera in your eyes?

And besides Barrera what other undeserved opportunities did he have? Was he not ready to fight Willie Limond? Did he jump the cue for Graham Earl and Michael Gomez.

Before you were criticising him for not making the big fights now your criticising the biggest name on his record and saying he shouldn't have had the chance in the first place?

If you think a guy who got beaten inside a minute by an unknown is more deserving of a superfight than someone who has paid their dues like Thaxton then thats fair enough . Thats all I needed to know about you . Lets leave it there .

hahahahhahah I;d LOVE to hear Don King explain to Barrera why he's NOT going to the UK to fight Amir Khan, arguably the most well known face in British boxing, that he'll be on a PPV card will fight in a packed arena in front of thousands and that a win will catapault him straight into the title mix at lightweight, but instead is coming over to the hometown of Jon Thaxton, seriously mate get a clue.

[Kev]

Bilbo. You know that was a shitty 'win'.

Yes the cut was very unfortunate Missy we all agree. I just get fed up with the haters who won't give Khan any credit.

It wasn't Khan's fault Barrera got cut, it wasn't deliberate, there heads both came together.

Knowing how much you love Amir, I'm sure if it was Khan who got the cut and then lost every round you and others wouldn't be on here running down Barrera and saying he proved nothing, that the fight should have been stopped etc.

Just give him a break is all I'm saying.

[GAME]

How is his opportunity undeserved, he's an Olympic Silver Medalist and one of the biggest names in British boxing. Marco Antonio Barrera needed Khan every bit as much as Khan needed him, that's why he was willing to come to the UK to fight him. Khan generates interest and therefore money.

Besides Barrera isn't a world champion and wasn't even rated at lightweight so what about Khan facing him is undeserved? Who did deserve the shot at Barrera in your eyes?

And besides Barrera what other undeserved opportunities did he have? Was he not ready to fight Willie Limond? Did he jump the cue for Graham Earl and Michael Gomez.

Before you were criticising him for not making the big fights now your criticising the biggest name on his record and saying he shouldn't have had the chance in the first place?

If you think a guy who got beaten inside a minute by an unknown is more deserving of a superfight than someone who has paid their dues like Thaxton then thats fair enough . Thats all I needed to know about you . Lets leave it there .

hahahahhahah I;d LOVE to hear Don King explain to Barrera why he's NOT going to the UK to fight Amir Khan, arguably the most well known face in British boxing, that he'll be on a PPV card will fight in a packed arena in front of thousands and that a win will catapault him straight into the title mix at lightweight, but instead is coming over to the hometown of Jon Thaxton, seriously mate get a clue.

Youve totally missed the point. I didnt realise you were that stupid

I was saying Thaxton is more deserving not more marketable. It seems that your saying just because Khan is well known he "deserves" the opportunities over more accomplished boxers . Thats pretty sad Bilbo.

[Majesty]

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Can you name one fighter that has been given such undeserved opportunities though ?

Zab Judah for one, didn't deserve a rematch with Spinks, he got it and became welterweight champ. Gets beat by Baldomir and then somehow gets a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr before him.

People need to stop acting like Khan is the only person to get benefit.

But as far as fighters who get sparked in seconds and get immediate opportunities afterwards. Wladimer Klitschko gets sparked in 2 rounds by Corrie Sanders. And then after fighting such beast heavyweights like Fabio Moli and Danell Nicholson gets a shot at the heavyweight title and gets sparked again. The difference is that nowadays when Wladimer got sparked he came back and won a world title and is now the heavyweight champion of the world. Him and Khan are both also olympians, you don't get there just being a nobody.

The point is its not about the opportunities you get its what you do with them. YES Khan got sparked in a few seconds but he came back and just beat Barerra. Just because you have sour grapes about how he won is no reason to take away from the accomplishment. He could have just folded it in, called it a career, or mentally never became the same fighter again. But what did he do when he was knocked out? He got a new trainer, he learned new things and he attempted to correct the mistakes and became a better fighter.

Khan should get credit for that and also for doing better then a lot of people thought he would against barerra. People want to hang on to the one or two times Barerra landed something hard in that fight. Ask yourselves honestly, if there was no cut was there any way that Barerra was gonna outbox Khan that night? He would have been toned down to have to try to land one big shot, which is basically what it came down to anyway, and the times he did Khan reacted and recovered well. There's no chance Barerra can win a rematch but people will follow that he would.

And when Khan wins the rematch if there is one people will just say he won because Barerra was shot or that Barerra should have retired after the first fight. If you think Barerra had any true chance in there of beating Khan considering both styles they brought to that fight then don't take credit away from Khan when where is a rematch and Khan wins again and there's nothing to hold on to to take credit away.

Vitali Klitschko had a worse cut against Lennox Lewis and he was actually WINNING.

People always say a fighter comes through the tough times through cuts and can win a fight and whenever a fighter can't do that people say he has no heart.

Yet Barerra who is a warrior of warriors he gets a cut and he gets a free pass because people don't want to give Khan credit. Gatti won fights with both of his eyes closed. Im sure fighters have come out of much worse circumstances then that and yet I bet their cuts aren't bitched about more then Barerra's is.

Just my

[GAME]

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Can you name one fighter that has been given such undeserved opportunities though ?

Zab Judah for one, didn't deserve a rematch with Spinks, he got it and became welterweight champ. Gets beat by Baldomir and then somehow gets a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr before him.

People need to stop acting like Khan is the only person to get benefit.

But as far as fighters who get sparked in seconds and get immediate opportunities afterwards. Wladimer Klitschko gets sparked in 2 rounds by Corrie Sanders. And then after fighting such beast heavyweights like Fabio Moli and Danell Nicholson gets a shot at the heavyweight title and gets sparked again. The difference is that nowadays when Wladimer got sparked he came back and won a world title and is now the heavyweight champion of the world. Him and Khan are both also olympians, you don't get there just being a nobody.

The point is its not about the opportunities you get its what you do with them. YES Khan got sparked in a few seconds but he came back and just beat Barerra. Just because you have sour grapes about how he won is no reason to take away from the accomplishment. He could have just folded it in, called it a career, or mentally never became the same fighter again. But what did he do when he was knocked out? He got a new trainer, he learned new things and he attempted to correct the mistakes and became a better fighter.

Khan should get credit for that and also for doing better then a lot of people thought he would against barerra. People want to hang on to the one or two times Barerra landed something hard in that fight. Ask yourselves honestly, if there was no cut was there any way that Barerra was gonna outbox Khan that night? He would have been toned down to have to try to land one big shot, which is basically what it came down to anyway, and the times he did Khan reacted and recovered well. There's no chance Barerra can win a rematch but people will follow that he would.

And when Khan wins the rematch if there is one people will just say he won because Barerra was shot or that Barerra should have retired after the first fight. If you think Barerra had any true chance in there of beating Khan considering both styles they brought to that fight then don't take credit away from Khan when where is a rematch and Khan wins again and there's nothing to hold on to to take credit away.

Vitali Klitschko had a worse cut against Lennox Lewis and he was actually WINNING.

People always say a fighter comes through the tough times through cuts and can win a fight and whenever a fighter can't do that people say he has no heart.

Yet Barerra who is a warrior of warriors he gets a cut and he gets a free pass because people don't want to give Khan credit. Gatti won fights with both of his eyes closed. Im sure fighters have come out of much worse circumstances then that and yet I bet their cuts aren't bitched about more then Barerra's is.

Just my

Firstly Zab wasnt knocked out in under a minute by an unknown before he got his shot.

How can I give Khan credit for winning when I dont think he won . To me a headbutt isnt legal even if you think it is so Barrera was stopped on cuts caused by a headbutt so that makes it a NC IMO

As for Lewis he cut Vitali with punches and the cut wasnt as Bad as Barreras. Plus Vitali could still see Barrera couldnt .

You can make this into a big for Khan if you want . We will just laugh at you.

[Majesty]

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Can you name one fighter that has been given such undeserved opportunities though ?

Zab Judah for one, didn't deserve a rematch with Spinks, he got it and became welterweight champ. Gets beat by Baldomir and then somehow gets a shot at Floyd Mayweather Jr before him.

People need to stop acting like Khan is the only person to get benefit.

But as far as fighters who get sparked in seconds and get immediate opportunities afterwards. Wladimer Klitschko gets sparked in 2 rounds by Corrie Sanders. And then after fighting such beast heavyweights like Fabio Moli and Danell Nicholson gets a shot at the heavyweight title and gets sparked again. The difference is that nowadays when Wladimer got sparked he came back and won a world title and is now the heavyweight champion of the world. Him and Khan are both also olympians, you don't get there just being a nobody.

The point is its not about the opportunities you get its what you do with them. YES Khan got sparked in a few seconds but he came back and just beat Barerra. Just because you have sour grapes about how he won is no reason to take away from the accomplishment. He could have just folded it in, called it a career, or mentally never became the same fighter again. But what did he do when he was knocked out? He got a new trainer, he learned new things and he attempted to correct the mistakes and became a better fighter.

Khan should get credit for that and also for doing better then a lot of people thought he would against barerra. People want to hang on to the one or two times Barerra landed something hard in that fight. Ask yourselves honestly, if there was no cut was there any way that Barerra was gonna outbox Khan that night? He would have been toned down to have to try to land one big shot, which is basically what it came down to anyway, and the times he did Khan reacted and recovered well. There's no chance Barerra can win a rematch but people will follow that he would.

And when Khan wins the rematch if there is one people will just say he won because Barerra was shot or that Barerra should have retired after the first fight. If you think Barerra had any true chance in there of beating Khan considering both styles they brought to that fight then don't take credit away from Khan when where is a rematch and Khan wins again and there's nothing to hold on to to take credit away.

Vitali Klitschko had a worse cut against Lennox Lewis and he was actually WINNING.

People always say a fighter comes through the tough times through cuts and can win a fight and whenever a fighter can't do that people say he has no heart.

Yet Barerra who is a warrior of warriors he gets a cut and he gets a free pass because people don't want to give Khan credit. Gatti won fights with both of his eyes closed. Im sure fighters have come out of much worse circumstances then that and yet I bet their cuts aren't bitched about more then Barerra's is.

Just my

Firstly Zab wasnt knocked out in under a minute by an unknown before he got his shot.

How can I give Khan credit for winning when I dont think he won . To me a headbutt isnt legal even if you think it is so Barrera was stopped on cuts caused by a headbutt so that makes it a NC IMO

As for Lewis he cut Vitali with punches and the cut wasnt as Bad as Barreras. Plus Vitali could still see Barrera couldnt .

You can make this into a big for Khan if you want . We will just laugh at you.

You're missing my point. I wasn't even comparing the situation in terms of whether the cuts i mentioned were headbutts and punches. I'm talking about it in terms of cuts in general.

And you can say that Zab wasn't knocked out by a nobody.

But there is NO way you could justify him losing to carlos baldomir and then still getting a match with floyd before him. You didn't mention my comment on Wladimer either, or Gatti.

I never said that I'm gonna turn this into a big Khan win. It's the biggest of his career though whether you like it or not. And he would have won the fight anyway cut or no cut.

What I wanted to touch on the most was this

People always say a fighter comes through the tough times through cuts and can win a fight and whenever a fighter can't do that people say he has no heart.

Yet Barerra who is a warrior of warriors he gets a cut and he gets a free pass because people don't want to give Khan credit. Gatti won fights with both of his eyes closed. Im sure fighters have come out of much worse circumstances then that and yet I bet their cuts aren't bitched about more then Barerra's is.

Which I think is absolutely true in this situation especially.

Tell me this GAME if the shoes were on the other foot, if Barerra was beating Khan in the first round before a headbutt Khan got cut and then Barerra dominated him for 5 rounds before the decision.

Would you be sitting there saying "Barerra didnt win, it wasn't legal"

or would you be saying

"Khan didn't have any heart anyway"

[Kev]

If you think a guy who got beaten inside a minute by an unknown is more deserving of a superfight than someone who has paid their dues like Thaxton then thats fair enough . Thats all I needed to know about you . Lets leave it there .

hahahahhahah I;d LOVE to hear Don King explain to Barrera why he's NOT going to the UK to fight Amir Khan, arguably the most well known face in British boxing, that he'll be on a PPV card will fight in a packed arena in front of thousands and that a win will catapault him straight into the title mix at lightweight, but instead is coming over to the hometown of Jon Thaxton, seriously mate get a clue.

Youve totally missed the point. I didnt realise you were that stupid

I was saying Thaxton is more deserving not more marketable. It seems that your saying just because Khan is well known he "deserves" the opportunities over more accomplished boxers . Thats pretty sad Bilbo.

No offense but I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. What about Barrera's status is there that meant Khan needed to be deserving of fighting him. Barrera held no world title. Barrera wasn't even ranked. Add to that he had actually retired following back to back losses to Pacquaio and Marquez and then when he came back moved up into Amir's weight class what exactly did Amir need to be 'deserving' of him for?

It was a crossroads fight, a chance for both of them to get straight back into the picture and back onto the world scene with a potential end of the road risk for the loser.

Please understand this carefully, They BOTH NEEDED EACH OTHER EQUALLY.

Barrera came over here to fight Khan because he was the BEST option for Barrera to immediately rebuild his career and make an impact on the light weight title picture. The reason being, because Khan is an Olympic Silver Medalist (in boxing so is that not an achievement?) and is regarded around the world as one of the hottest prospects in boxing.

Doesn't Barrera, a boxing legend 'deserve' better than coming to England to fight Jon Thaxton?


Khan vs Barrera was inspired matchmaking, for BOTH men.

If Barrera had a world title maybe you could argue Khan shouldn't be getting the shot ahead of other's (like Prescott for example) but this wasn't for a belt, it was a cross roads fight.