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    Default Re: Klitschko haters: explain something to me please

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Lewis was a little more exciting than the klits tho

    i dont have anything against the klits by the way, i just raher watch someone else fight
    To each their own...I've never said everyone should LIKE the Klitschko's but they should give a bit of respect for their accomplishments.
    i respect them massively, i honestly believe they would have beaten anyone in history (appart from perhaps Lewis)

    Times change tho and its hard to compare one generation to the next, but regardless they dominate the HW division more than anyone has before

    i dont think its because they are "boring" that i dont want to watch their fights, i think its because their fights are so frustrating. Everyone they fight dont have any physical advantages and seem to come with exactly the same gameplan and every fight goes the same way

    jab jab jab jab jab right hand until a late stoppage or retitrement

    it would be nice to think that with haye's speed and power it would at least add a bit of variety to one of their fights
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    Default Re: Klitschko haters: explain something to me please

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Lewis was a little more exciting than the klits tho

    i dont have anything against the klits by the way, i just raher watch someone else fight
    To each their own...I've never said everyone should LIKE the Klitschko's but they should give a bit of respect for their accomplishments.
    i respect them massively, i honestly believe they would have beaten anyone in history (appart from perhaps Lewis)

    Times change tho and its hard to compare one generation to the next, but regardless they dominate the HW division more than anyone has before

    i dont think its because they are "boring" that i dont want to watch their fights, i think its because their fights are so frustrating. Everyone they fight dont have any physical advantages and seem to come with exactly the same gameplan and every fight goes the same way

    jab jab jab jab jab right hand until a late stoppage or retitrement

    it would be nice to think that with haye's speed and power it would at least add a bit of variety to one of their fights
    Seriously? Really?

    Anyone?

    Even Rocky?

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    Default Re: Klitschko haters: explain something to me please

    Sanders and brewster KO'ed wlad, and a fat old under trained under motorvated lennox lewis stopped vitali after taking the fight at about a weeks notice.

    A prime tyson, holyfield, bowe, ruddock, McCall would have beat the klits.

    A prime, Tua, Ibeabuchi, and maybe EVEN bruno would have given the brothers a good go.

    That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Sanders and brewster KO'ed wlad, and a fat old under trained under motorvated lennox lewis stopped vitali after taking the fight at about a weeks notice.

    A prime tyson, holyfield, bowe, ruddock, McCall would have beat the klits.

    A prime, Tua, Ibeabuchi, and maybe EVEN bruno would have given the brothers a good go.

    That is all.
    Holyfield would have been difficult for anyone, but all I have to say about the rest of your post is "Hahaha you crack me up"

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornfinger View Post
    Sanders and brewster KO'ed wlad, and a fat old under trained under motorvated lennox lewis stopped vitali after taking the fight at about a weeks notice.

    A prime tyson, holyfield, bowe, ruddock, McCall would have beat the klits.

    A prime, Tua, Ibeabuchi, and maybe EVEN bruno would have given the brothers a good go.

    That is all.
    Holyfield would have been difficult for anyone, but all I have to say about the rest of your post is "Hahaha you crack me up"

    The feeling's mutual, I would love to visit your fantasy planet one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Lewis was a little more exciting than the klits tho

    i dont have anything against the klits by the way, i just raher watch someone else fight
    To each their own...I've never said everyone should LIKE the Klitschko's but they should give a bit of respect for their accomplishments.
    i respect them massively, i honestly believe they would have beaten anyone in history (appart from perhaps Lewis)

    Times change tho and its hard to compare one generation to the next, but regardless they dominate the HW division more than anyone has before

    i dont think its because they are "boring" that i dont want to watch their fights, i think its because their fights are so frustrating. Everyone they fight dont have any physical advantages and seem to come with exactly the same gameplan and every fight goes the same way

    jab jab jab jab jab right hand until a late stoppage or retitrement

    it would be nice to think that with haye's speed and power it would at least add a bit of variety to one of their fights
    Seriously? Really?

    Anyone?

    Even Rocky?
    Rocky Marciano was 5ft 10ins, had a tiny 67inch reach and seldom weighed over 190lbs... He is a small/ average sized cruiserweight by today standards.

    It is impossible to compare some of these guys. Times have changed.
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    Both Klitschkos have shown a real flaw in handling pressure. They are very good boxers but I feel some of the better fighters of the past would know, just as Lennox Lewis did, how to expose their flaws. Wlad for example has looked very poor against pretty limited oppposition.

    Vitali became pretty lost in the trenches himself. Divisions past had more fighters capable of exposing these guys or willing to take chances.

    I think even though Briggs has little chance against Vitali he'll take a shot to win that we havent seen too many fighters take against the Klitschkos.

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    DEREK CHISORA!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by J da /
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    Rocky Marciano was 5ft 10ins, had a tiny 67inch reach and seldom weighed over 190lbs... He is a small/ average sized cruiserweight by today standards.

    It is impossible to compare some of these guys. Times have changed.
    I meant Rocky Balboa!
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    [SaQUOTE=salty trunks;907800]Both Klitschkos have shown a real flaw in handling pressure. They are very good boxers but I feel some of the better fighters of the past would know, just as Lennox Lewis did, how to expose their flaws. Wlad for example has looked very poor against pretty limited oppposition.

    Vitali became pretty lost in the trenches himself. Divisions past had more fighters capable of exposing these guys or willing to take chances.

    I think even though Briggs has little chance against Vitali he'll take a shot to win that we havent seen too many fighters take against the Klitschkos.[/QUOTE]
    Bingo, I think you hit the nail on the head. They seem to have problems with pressure fighters but the problem is that no one else in the division comes to fight in shape anymore so either they try to conserve their energy( ie do nothing) or they rush in desperately and get cracked or lose their technique when fatigue sets in and become easy targets. I have no problems with he Klits but it is just my humble opinion that a lot of the HW fighters of today are not cut from the same cloth as yesteryear

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    Quote Originally Posted by salty trunks View Post
    Both Klitschkos have shown a real flaw in handling pressure. They are very good boxers but I feel some of the better fighters of the past would know, just as Lennox Lewis did, how to expose their flaws. Wlad for example has looked very poor against pretty limited oppposition.

    Vitali became pretty lost in the trenches himself. Divisions past had more fighters capable of exposing these guys or willing to take chances.

    I think even though Briggs has little chance against Vitali he'll take a shot to win that we havent seen too many fighters take against the Klitschkos.
    Please post some examples of Wlad and Vitali not handling pressure well. I know of perhaps 1 time Wlad didn't handle pressure well and that was vs Brewster where Wlad ran out of gas because of mainly because of Brewster's chin but also the pressure he applied. Other than that he hasn't really had to deal with much pressure. And Lamon Brewster was a pretty good heavyweight he had a knee injury and an eye injury that really shortened his time at the top and took a few good opportunities away from him but he was very solid.

    Sure there are plenty of past heavyweights that could have given anyone a hard time. I know this is too much to ask, but give the guys their due, they have dominated this division since Lennox Lewis left to the extent that they WILL be in the Hall of Fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J da /
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    Rocky Marciano was 5ft 10ins, had a tiny 67inch reach and seldom weighed over 190lbs... He is a small/ average sized cruiserweight by today standards.

    It is impossible to compare some of these guys. Times have changed.
    I meant Rocky Balboa!
    *
    Oh Chuck Wepner can go to hell!!

    I deserve to be banned for that...

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