Khan and his team are a bunch of classless scumbags

[boxingbantz]

You don't need to have ever boxed to be a boxing expert. Just the other day I found out on here that Floyd Mayweather jr, Olympic medal winner and multi-weight unbeaten world champion, has spent his entire life breathing wrong when he throws punches.

Just think how well Floyd could have done if he was aware of this flaw.

I remember that post. Absolutely priceless.

[Kev]

You don't need to have ever boxed to be a boxing expert. Just the other day I found out on here that Floyd Mayweather jr, Olympic medal winner and multi-weight unbeaten world champion, has spent his entire life breathing wrong when he throws punches.

Just think how well Floyd could have done if he was aware of this flaw.

I remember that post. Absolutely priceless.

The immortal Taeth. We've had a few great trainers on this site...

Ironically the only one who has actually trained world champions never criticises any fighters.

[ICB]

I watched the fight last night despite feeling like sh**, and Paul McCloskey was never in the fight. He was quite slick and Amir Khan didn't land many clean punches, but Paul McCloskey wasn't throwing any punches himself, except the odd jab and straight left hand. But never in combinations just one punch at a time.

I agree with what Bilbo said in the other thread, the way the fight ended was the best Paul McCloskey could of hoped for. Because he would of just gone on to lose a very wide decision, or possibly worse because Amir Khan was landing a bit more frequently.

[Kev]

I watched the fight last night despite feeling like sh**, and Paul McCloskey was never in the fight. He was quite slick and Amir Khan didn't land many clean punches, but Paul McCloskey wasn't throwing any punches himself, except the odd jab and straight left hand. But never in combinations just one punch at a time.

I agree with what Bilbo said in the other thread, the way the fight ended was the best Paul McCloskey could of hoped for. Because he would of just gone on to lose a very wide decision, or possibly worse because Amir Khan was landing a bit more frequently.

Even the BBC were of the opinion he quit. This is from their report

'At first the previously unbeaten McCloskey offered little in the way of a protest, perhaps sensing the tide in the fight was turning, although when interviewed afterwards he toed the party line that he had in fact been cheated'.

Even during the post fight interview he was trying to justify why he didn't ask to carry saying that the way the referee was looking at him made him think it was really bad.

Just watching his interaction with the doctor he was clearly not make any attempts to say he wanted to fight on.

I think from the referee's point of view he just saw a guy losing every round, who was now cut, didn't seem impassioned about fighting on and so stopped the fight.

It was a premature stoppage certainly, but no conspiracy. Alexander did the same against Tim Bradley and couldn't continue because of a headbutt in a fight he was losing. But because people don't detest Bradley the same way as they do Khan they didn't start creating silly threads saying how Alexander was on the verge of turning it all around and would have knocked Bradley out had that not happened.

Easy win for Khan, lack lustre effort from McKloskey who was out of his depth, move on to the Tim Bradley in the summer. As a Khan fan even I'm sceptical of his ability to win this fight however, Bradley is going to be one hell of a tough opponent for him.

[ICB]

I watched the fight last night despite feeling like sh**, and Paul McCloskey was never in the fight. He was quite slick and Amir Khan didn't land many clean punches, but Paul McCloskey wasn't throwing any punches himself, except the odd jab and straight left hand. But never in combinations just one punch at a time.

I agree with what Bilbo said in the other thread, the way the fight ended was the best Paul McCloskey could of hoped for. Because he would of just gone on to lose a very wide decision, or possibly worse because Amir Khan was landing a bit more frequently.

Even the BBC were of the opinion he quit. This is from their report

'At first the previously unbeaten McCloskey offered little in the way of a protest, perhaps sensing the tide in the fight was turning, although when interviewed afterwards he toed the party line that he had in fact been cheated'.

Even during the post fight interview he was trying to justify why he didn't ask to carry saying that the way the referee was looking at him made him think it was really bad.

Just watching his interaction with the doctor he was clearly not make any attempts to say he wanted to fight on.

I think from the referee's point of view he just saw a guy losing every round, who was now cut, didn't seem impassioned about fighting on and so stopped the fight.

It was a premature stoppage certainly, but no conspiracy. Alexander did the same against Tim Bradley and couldn't continue because of a headbutt in a fight he was losing. But because people don't detest Bradley the same way as they do Khan they didn't start creating silly threads saying how Alexander was on the verge of turning it all around and would have knocked Bradley out had that not happened.

Easy win for Khan, lack lustre effort from McKloskey who was out of his depth, move on to the Tim Bradley in the summer. As a Khan fan even I'm sceptical of his ability to win this fight however, Bradley is going to be one hell of a tough opponent for him.

I actually thought Alexander/Bradley was quite even, and when i looked the punchstats they were pretty even aswell which is the way i saw it. But i agree Devon Alexander bottled it in a big fight and didn't give it everything he had.

As for Timothy Bradley he's one of those guys, that isn't that special in one area. Even when he fights its not spectacular, But he's a good allrounder and he gets the job done.

But he'll be there for 12 rounds against Amir Khan, and this will be the most skilled opponent Amir Khan has ever faced.

But maybe Timothy Bradley hasn't quite got the speed or power to beat Amir Khan ? but who knows Timothy Bradley is quite a good counter puncher, and he's very good at adapting to certain situations so its hard to tell im going to sit on the fence.

[Master]

All this irrational hate for Khan is making me a fan of his.

[TheMacMagician]

Paul McCloskey was pretty disrespectful after the fight towards Khan though. So swings and roundabouts really. Khan came off looking a classless cunt, but so did McCloskey.

Don'ty agree with that mate, thought McCloskey was humble and straight up.....

He was stood in the ring bitching about Khan.

He fought like an idiot for 6 rounds, didn't even come close to winning a round, and then had the audacity to claim Khan isn't anywhere near as good as the other top fighters in the division.

All i'd say is that Khan won the 6 rounds, no doubt, but he won them for me purely by way of activity, McCloskey made him look very very silly for alot of those rounds. This on the other hand has nothing to do with the fact that McCloskey was humble and factual. Khan on the other hand, is living in a borderline fantasy land. That he is way above McCloskey at World level, McCloskey made him look like it was his first day at the gym on some occasions during those 6 rounds. I really would love to see some compubox stats for thrown and landed by Khan, bet they are all over the place.

There's a few ounces of me that still like Khan for his ability, so I will tune in for the Bradley fight believeing it will be a cracker personally.

[ono]

Paul McCloskey was pretty disrespectful after the fight towards Khan though. So swings and roundabouts really. Khan came off looking a classless cunt, but so did McCloskey.

Don'ty agree with that mate, thought McCloskey was humble and straight up.....

He was stood in the ring bitching about Khan.

He fought like an idiot for 6 rounds, didn't even come close to winning a round, and then had the audacity to claim Khan isn't anywhere near as good as the other top fighters in the division.

All i'd say is that Khan won the 6 rounds, no doubt, but he won them for me purely by way of activity, McCloskey made him look very very silly for alot of those rounds. This on the other hand has nothing to do with the fact that McCloskey was humble and factual. Khan on the other hand, is living in a borderline fantasy land. That he is way above McCloskey at World level, McCloskey made him look like it was his first day at the gym on some occasions during those 6 rounds. I really would love to see some compubox stats for thrown and landed by Khan, bet they are all over the place.

But that can happen in Boxing. Certain styles can make certain fighters look terrible. McCloskey has a terrible style for anybody to look good against. He leans so far back that you have to reach if you are going to land anything.

Khan forced it and that's why he looked so bad, but if he had have relaxed a bit more and picked his shots, he would have been criticised for being so cautious against such a mediocre opponent.

He's obviously way above McCloskey at world level. He fought like an absolute novice by your own admission, yet he was still 6-0 up.

[erics44]

But that can happen in Boxing. Certain styles can make certain fighters look terrible. McCloskey has a terrible style for anybody to look good against. He leans so far back that you have to reach if you are going to land anything.

Khan forced it and that's why he looked so bad, but if he had have relaxed a bit more and picked his shots, he would have been criticised for being so cautious against such a mediocre opponent.

He's obviously way above McCloskey at world level. He fought like an absolute novice by your own admission, yet he was still 6-0 up.

i kind if agree

i wanted dudey to win, but the fact is he didnt look anything like winning, yeah if it had have gone on he may have pulled something out of the bag, but (as much as it pains me to say) it would more likely have gone the way khan suggested it would

it was very unfortunate the way it was stopped but at the same time he didnt do anything that suggested he deserves a rematch

the ref and doctor should be banned and hopefully dudey will get a bigger fight on the back of it

[Violent Demise]

Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.

He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.

Maybe all that effort he put into getting up is what gassed him out?

[Violent Demise]

By the way anybody know if there's any truth to the rumor that Con threatened to have McCrappy's house blown up?

[DogTheBountyHunter]

Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.

He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.

Incorrect. The gist of my post is that he has a weak mental makeup for boxing. His physical skills are fantastic but his mental capacity does not allow him to reach the next level. for example his combinations are as fast as any fighter out there @ 140 but then he leans forward which takes out some of the power and accuracy. He can hardly relax so he is tiring more than he should be and punches are effecting him more than if he was properly relaxed.

When he fought Maidana he was looking up at the scoreboard for time. That is an amateur move and a fighter should always be focused on his opponent at all times. If that happens in a fight it is usually a move done by the loser of the bout. We saw that on Saturday with Berto as well. Berto is another case. All the skills yet he fights on his heels flat footed.

[Kev]

Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.

He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.

Incorrect. The gist of my post is that he has a weak mental makeup for boxing. His physical skills are fantastic but his mental capacity does not allow him to reach the next level. for example his combinations are as fast as any fighter out there @ 140 but then he leans forward which takes out some of the power and accuracy. He can hardly relax so he is tiring more than he should be and punches are effecting him more than if he was properly relaxed.

When he fought Maidana he was looking up at the scoreboard for time. That is an amateur move and a fighter should always be focused on his opponent at all times. If that happens in a fight it is usually a move done by the loser of the bout. We saw that on Saturday with Berto as well. Berto is another case. All the skills yet he fights on his heels flat footed.

So when can we look forward to seeing you in the ring to show these guys how it's done?

[DogTheBountyHunter]

Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.

He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.

Incorrect. The gist of my post is that he has a weak mental makeup for boxing. His physical skills are fantastic but his mental capacity does not allow him to reach the next level. for example his combinations are as fast as any fighter out there @ 140 but then he leans forward which takes out some of the power and accuracy. He can hardly relax so he is tiring more than he should be and punches are effecting him more than if he was properly relaxed.

When he fought Maidana he was looking up at the scoreboard for time. That is an amateur move and a fighter should always be focused on his opponent at all times. If that happens in a fight it is usually a move done by the loser of the bout. We saw that on Saturday with Berto as well. Berto is another case. All the skills yet he fights on his heels flat footed.

So when can we look forward to seeing you in the ring to show these guys how it's done?

If you need a scouting report on a fighter let me know. This is my passion. I am not some know it all but I have a good eye for boxing.

[generalbulldog]

Khan's arrogance will come back to haunt him in the next fight or 2 guarantee. The whole reason he has not lived up to his full potential is his mentality.

He has great speed yet when throwing combinations he leans forward thus taking off power. Khan also has accuracy problems usually missing high above the target.
Amir being unrelaxed in the ring leads to him being gassed out and having a lesser chin. Khan thinks he is already a P4P fighter but without working on the mental aspects of the game the physical tools only will take you so far.

His ego will fail to allow him to bridge the gap of the mental and physical dimensions he truly needs to merge to become great. Mark my words he is always vulnerable to be Knocked out in every fight at any time especially in the second half. I can understand why his promoter made sure the doctor stopped the fight on Saturday.

He was gassed out in under 60 seconds against Prescott? Interesting.

The gist of your post seems to be that Khan has a weak chin which will lead to his downfall. Hmmm... this type of alternative thinking needs some serious thought.

Incorrect. The gist of my post is that he has a weak mental makeup for boxing. His physical skills are fantastic but his mental capacity does not allow him to reach the next level. for example his combinations are as fast as any fighter out there @ 140 but then he leans forward which takes out some of the power and accuracy. He can hardly relax so he is tiring more than he should be and punches are effecting him more than if he was properly relaxed.

When he fought Maidana he was looking up at the scoreboard for time. That is an amateur move and a fighter should always be focused on his opponent at all times. If that happens in a fight it is usually a move done by the loser of the bout. We saw that on Saturday with Berto as well. Berto is another case. All the skills yet he fights on his heels flat footed.

So when can we look forward to seeing you in the ring to show these guys how it's done?

If you need a scouting report on a fighter let me know. This is my passion. I am not some know it all but I have a good eye for boxing.

How about a scouting report on Donaire then? The new flavor of the month. Not taking the piss, but just for fun I would want to know what your report is on him.