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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    I hope Haye wins but just cannot see him get past Wlads jab, holding, blocking and right hand. Brutal beat down I am afraid to say.
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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

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    I can see a number of scenarios for Wlad - Haye , but all have Wlad winning, the only way Haye wins this is if Wlad gets some kind of freakish injury and can't continue.

    The most likely scenario I see, is something simular to Wlad's fight with another small HW, Eddie Chambers. Chambers was able to go 12 rounds with Wlad before getting brutally KTFO. I figure Haye, who isn't even as good as Chambers, will only make it to the 7th or 8th round before getting crushed by one of Klitschko's big right hands.

    How do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go? (be honest)

    haye would batter chambers, it would be over a lot quicker than the chambers fight with wlad

    however, like most I think wlad is the favourite but haye has a very good chance

    i cant help but think that haye will land at least once

    and with wlad it only takes one
    I definitely agree that Haye's speed will allow him to land some heavy shots, but it has never taken just one punch to stop Wlad.
    nope but in the fights he has been hit with any force he has lost
    That's not true. The Sam Peter fights spring immediately to mind.
    yep thats true although i have watched fight once and i remember thining he was very lucky to win

    also i dont really remember peter hitting him clean, every time his glove came near his face he fell over
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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

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    I agree with rjj tszyu's scenario. I honestly think Haye will KO him. Two years ago I thought it was a mismatch (in Wlad's favour of course). A year ago I thought Wlad was a borderline cert.

    But now we know what Haye's tactics will be. He will be cagey. He will be looking to con Wlad on to something. And I think he will. Then I will experience the greatest moment ever in my life. Not the Haye victory. But the pure satisfaction that somewhere in America Lyle is blubbing his little heart out.

    Haye KO 4-8. Fact.

    Right, expect some 'tricks' from Haye, the problem is, Wlad has seen it all, and is going to be ready for anything this clown tries to do.
    "Wlad has never fought this "clown."

    Wlad is a strong favourite, without doubt, but Haye is different to all his most recent opponents. Haye TRULY believes he is going to beat him. However much people hate Haye they can't deny the guy has supreme confidence in himself. Plus KO power. Plus impressive speed for a heavyweight.

    Haye KO 4-12. It's been written. Fact.

    True, Wlad has never fought Haye, but aside from having a bit more power, I just don't see Haye being much better then Chris Byrd, Eddie Chambers, or some of the small HW's Wlad has already knocked out. No offense sir, but some of you are overrating Haye's power, ablity and actual accomplishments to the max. In regards to Haye being "supremely confident", that will all disapear once he starts getting pummeled with big right hands and realizes he's not in there with chumps like Maccarinelli, Audley and Barrett, or a washed up version of John Ruiz.

    I mean think about it, Wlad's been a HW his entire career and been a HW champion the better part of 10 years, and a former Cruiserweight, with 5 HW fights under his belt is going to waltz in like this was Audley Harrison and knock the recognized HW champion out? Haye is the most hyped fighter in boxing right now, for no apparent reason that I can see.
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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    As I've said before... If there is one thing thing about Haye you can't overrate, it's His power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    As I've said before... If there is one thing thing about Haye you can't overrate, it's His power.
    ...He loops his punches

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

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    I think Haye fights extremely cautiously as he did against Valuev and Audley. The fight will go as long as he continues to do that, losing every round due to Wlad's jab. The second or third time Haye engages? I expect the authorities to have to call in the paramedics. The promoter needs to make sure the ref can count to 100 or so.

    Afterwards I expect Haye to come up with a long list of excuses.

    haha this is exactly how I see it going too

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
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    I think Haye fights extremely cautiously as he did against Valuev and Audley. The fight will go as long as he continues to do that, losing every round due to Wlad's jab. The second or third time Haye engages? I expect the authorities to have to call in the paramedics. The promoter needs to make sure the ref can count to 100 or so.

    Afterwards I expect Haye to come up with a long list of excuses.

    haha this is exactly how I see it going too
    Me too.

    I actually like the way Wlad is coming off in the interviews. He has become quite humanised. Haye on the other hand seems like a moody and quite annoying teenager. "Ooh, I can't be in the same room. I might hit him now". Grow up, you idiot!

    It will be fun to see the gurning hyena knocked out. Wlad will play it safe and build up the rounds and Haye will find that Wlad is just that little bit better than Valuev.

    That's the thing with Haye, he has a belt, but he has talked his way into the HW division. The only meaningful win he has is over someone a 48 year old Holyfield beat just months before and who did it more impressively IMO.

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    I wonder if the WBA title holder will initiate a clinch once he gets caught by a power punch.

    I do know the WBA title holder is in waaaaaay over his head on this one. He's talented and he constantly points out Wlad's flaws but his flaws are out there too and his boxing ability and style doesn't really help cover those flaws up.

    Look at the power punching, hand speed, and boxing abilities of the WBA title holder's heavyweight conquests and then compare them to Wlad...it is going to be a SLAUGHTER!

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Wlad will fight scared like he always does, but unfortunately Haye will too. Jab, jab, the occasional looping shot from Haye, late stoppage for Wlad, and the world continues to wait for that most blessed day, the retirement announcement.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    As I've said before... If there is one thing thing about Haye you can't overrate, it's His power.
    ...He loops his punches
    I know. He has terrible punching technique. Just one of the reasons he hardly punches in combination.
    His power is legit though.
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    Oh he's got some pop and the few times he does straighten out his punches they are very quick and of course very dangerous.

    The thing with Wlad is that he uses his height and reach very well...even if the WBA title holder tries to counter Wlad's jab the counter punch will have to travel a long distance to connect on Wlad's chin which of course gives Wlad more time to react.

    On the other hand Wlad's punches are powerful, straight, and quick and the WBA title holder's defense isn't all that great. I'm just wondering what punch will end the fight...right cross, left hook, or the newly discovered uppercut?

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    My money is on the left hook.

    Either that or a Haymaker
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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Alright some may expect Wladimir to go about this fight and punish Haye like Ali did to Terrell while screaming "Shake my Hand!" instead of "whats my name?"

    However I think Haye could win this fight if he takes advantage of a counter jab and a counter right. Wladimir can be hit by a jab consistently, people like Brewster and even DaVarryl Williamson were able to land jabs on Wlad and sucker him into counter rights of some sort, but with Brewster it was a left hook. If Haye actually uses his jab when he is pressing forward against Wladimir he could have an advantage, it all depends on how he comes out. But his opening will be there in the first 6 rounds, if he hasn't done anything by then and goes into desperation mode for the knockout he won't win at all.
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    Wlad is a totally different fighter since those fights...odds are if you try to counter jab Wlad he's going to catch you with the cross and unlike Brewster the WBA title holder doesn't have the whiskers to take that.

    You really have to be on alert for Wlad's left hook too that's a devistating punch.

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    Default Re: Honestly, how do you really expect Wlad vs. Haye to go?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Wlad is a totally different fighter since those fights...odds are if you try to counter jab Wlad he's going to catch you with the cross and unlike Brewster the WBA title holder doesn't have the whiskers to take that.

    You really have to be on alert for Wlad's left hook too that's a devistating punch.

    I think all Wlad needs to do is keep 'touching' Haye with punches, not necessarily power punches, but just making constant contact, a steady diet of leather, even Wlad's jab will hurt Haye.

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