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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    It's a bit pointless to not read what is said on my thread isn't it? Don't take things so personal, im just making certain evaluations on what i have read so far.

    Im sorry you are not entertained though, there's me thinking this is the art of boxing and the goal is to perfect the sweet science to the point that you become nearly inpenetrable. I'm sorry wlad's genius leaves you bored out of your skull.


    I fixed your typo.

    But to your point...... to each his own. You like watching impenetrable boxing defense coupled with scared shitless opponents hardly daring to throw a punch in anger...... whereas I like two fighters actually trying to do bodily harm to one another, and actually trying to win the boxing match.

    Again..... you keep harping on me not liking Wlad....... and I keep correcting you in that I'm not happy with any of Wlad's opponents to date. I'll keep repeating myself as long as it takes for the message to finally get through, no problem.


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    Dominant champions sometimes make it look too easy, that's just what happens. I mean when Michael Jordan dropped 63 points on the Boston Celtics in the playoffs of 1986, it looked easy, but that was THE Celtics....Bird, McHale, Parrish, Ainge, etc.

    There are sometimes contenders who would do great in different eras and other times there's just a dearth of contenders. I think there have been some really solid fighters that Wlad has beaten, Sam Peter (when motivated) was extremely good, Chris Byrd was small but very capable I think he was underrated as a fighter to watch because he would utilize proper defense and throw flurries of punches, and Lamon Brewster was good although his time at the top was relatively short lived.

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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    It's a bit pointless to not read what is said on my thread isn't it? Don't take things so personal, im just making certain evaluations on what i have read so far.

    Im sorry you are not entertained though, there's me thinking this is the art of boxing and the goal is to perfect the sweet science to the point that you become nearly inpenetrable. I'm sorry wlad's genius leaves you bored out of your skull.


    I fixed your typo.

    But to your point...... to each his own. You like watching impenetrable boxing defense coupled with scared shitless opponents hardly daring to throw a punch in anger...... whereas I like two fighters actually trying to do bodily harm to one another, and actually trying to win the boxing match.

    Again..... you keep harping on me not liking Wlad....... and I keep correcting you in that I'm not happy with any of Wlad's opponents to date. I'll keep repeating myself as long as it takes for the message to finally get through, no problem.

    You remind me of when I was younger and didn't know as much. Seen as though a true master of his art bore's you, let me point u in the right direction if you want excitement:

    See:

    Oleg Maskaev TKO12 Hasim Rahman
    Sergei Liakhovich UD Lamon Brewster
    Lamon Brewster TKO9 Luan Krasniqi
    Vitali Klitschko TKO8 Corrie Sanders
    Chris Byrd D Andrew Golota

    I can highly recommend smoking bert cooper fights too. Keep on rocking tito.....

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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    It's a bit pointless to not read what is said on my thread isn't it? Don't take things so personal, im just making certain evaluations on what i have read so far.

    Im sorry you are not entertained though, there's me thinking this is the art of boxing and the goal is to perfect the sweet science to the point that you become nearly inpenetrable. I'm sorry wlad's genius leaves you bored out of your skull.


    I fixed your typo.

    But to your point...... to each his own. You like watching impenetrable boxing defense coupled with scared shitless opponents hardly daring to throw a punch in anger...... whereas I like two fighters actually trying to do bodily harm to one another, and actually trying to win the boxing match.

    Again..... you keep harping on me not liking Wlad....... and I keep correcting you in that I'm not happy with any of Wlad's opponents to date. I'll keep repeating myself as long as it takes for the message to finally get through, no problem.

    You remind me of when I was younger and didn't know as much. Seen as though a true master of his art bore's you, let me point u in the right direction if you want excitement:

    See:

    Oleg Maskaev TKO12 Hasim Rahman
    Sergei Liakhovich UD Lamon Brewster
    Lamon Brewster TKO9 Luan Krasniqi
    Vitali Klitschko TKO8 Corrie Sanders
    Chris Byrd D Andrew Golota

    I can highly recommend smoking bert cooper fights too. Keep on rocking tito.....


    Ok kid..... what part of "I don't like the lack of effort put forth by Wlad's opponents" do you not understand? Is it a reading disability? Do you read better in Braille? How about a foreign language? ¿Hablas español?

    I remind you of when you were younger? So you lose the ability to think logically as you age? But hey......you're already getting scorched on another thread, so I won't heap insult to injury....... for now.

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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    It's a bit pointless to not read what is said on my thread isn't it? Don't take things so personal, im just making certain evaluations on what i have read so far.

    Im sorry you are not entertained though, there's me thinking this is the art of boxing and the goal is to perfect the sweet science to the point that you become nearly inpenetrable. I'm sorry wlad's genius leaves you bored out of your skull.


    I fixed your typo.

    But to your point...... to each his own. You like watching impenetrable boxing defense coupled with scared shitless opponents hardly daring to throw a punch in anger...... whereas I like two fighters actually trying to do bodily harm to one another, and actually trying to win the boxing match.

    Again..... you keep harping on me not liking Wlad....... and I keep correcting you in that I'm not happy with any of Wlad's opponents to date. I'll keep repeating myself as long as it takes for the message to finally get through, no problem.

    You remind me of when I was younger and didn't know as much. Seen as though a true master of his art bore's you, let me point u in the right direction if you want excitement:

    See:

    Oleg Maskaev TKO12 Hasim Rahman
    Sergei Liakhovich UD Lamon Brewster
    Lamon Brewster TKO9 Luan Krasniqi
    Vitali Klitschko TKO8 Corrie Sanders
    Chris Byrd D Andrew Golota

    I can highly recommend smoking bert cooper fights too. Keep on rocking tito.....


    Ok kid..... what part of "I don't like the lack of effort put forth by Wlad's opponents" do you not understand? Is it a reading disability? Do you read better in Braille? How about a foreign language? ¿Hablas español?

    I remind you of when you were younger? So you lose the ability to think logically as you age? But hey......you're already getting scorched on another thread, so I won't heap insult to injury....... for now.
    The Philosopher is clearly a young arrogant kid and forum troll. Its best to disregard his posts and not encourage him by arguing with him. This is how he gets his kick, by winding people up on internet forums and posing as the all knowing genius of boxing.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    It's a bit pointless to not read what is said on my thread isn't it? Don't take things so personal, im just making certain evaluations on what i have read so far.

    Im sorry you are not entertained though, there's me thinking this is the art of boxing and the goal is to perfect the sweet science to the point that you become nearly inpenetrable. I'm sorry wlad's genius leaves you bored out of your skull.


    I fixed your typo.

    But to your point...... to each his own. You like watching impenetrable boxing defense coupled with scared shitless opponents hardly daring to throw a punch in anger...... whereas I like two fighters actually trying to do bodily harm to one another, and actually trying to win the boxing match.

    Again..... you keep harping on me not liking Wlad....... and I keep correcting you in that I'm not happy with any of Wlad's opponents to date. I'll keep repeating myself as long as it takes for the message to finally get through, no problem.

    You remind me of when I was younger and didn't know as much. Seen as though a true master of his art bore's you, let me point u in the right direction if you want excitement:

    See:

    Oleg Maskaev TKO12 Hasim Rahman
    Sergei Liakhovich UD Lamon Brewster
    Lamon Brewster TKO9 Luan Krasniqi
    Vitali Klitschko TKO8 Corrie Sanders
    Chris Byrd D Andrew Golota

    I can highly recommend smoking bert cooper fights too. Keep on rocking tito.....


    Ok kid..... what part of "I don't like the lack of effort put forth by Wlad's opponents" do you not understand? Is it a reading disability? Do you read better in Braille? How about a foreign language? ¿Hablas español?

    I remind you of when you were younger? So you lose the ability to think logically as you age? But hey......you're already getting scorched on another thread, so I won't heap insult to injury....... for now.
    The Philosopher is clearly a young arrogant kid and forum troll. Its best to disregard his posts and not encourage him by arguing with him. This is how he gets his kick, by winding people up on internet forums and posing as the all knowing genius of boxing.

    Yeah.

    People that preface their comments with "you remind me of when I was younger" .... are usually prepubescent.

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    you're already getting scorched on another thread, so I won't heap insult to injury....... for now
    What thread am i getting scorched on exactly? Seems you're rattled a little...and need that moron to back u up.

    P.s i can also recommend:

    Andrew golota UD Corey sanders
    Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
    Chris Byrd SD Jameel McCline
    Chris Byrd D Andrew Golota
    Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
    Eddie Chambers MD Alexander Dimitrenko.
    Alexander Povetkin MD Marco Huck.

    Jimmy thunder fights too...

    lol
    Last edited by THE PHILOSOPHER; 07-16-2012 at 02:06 PM.

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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    you're already getting scorched on another thread, so I won't heap insult to injury....... for now
    What thread am i getting scorched on exactly? Seems you're rattled a little...and need that moron to back u up.

    P.s i can also recommend:

    Andrew golota UD Corey sanders
    Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
    Chris Byrd SD Jameel McCline
    Chris Byrd D Andrew Golota
    Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
    Eddie Chambers MD Alexander Dimitrenko.
    Alexander Povetkin MD Marco Huck.

    Jimmy thunder fights too...

    lol
    You are pretty disrespectful for a little piss ant kid who just joined his first boxing forum.

    Do you think behaving like a know it all child is going to make you feel important ?

    You should just leave. Find another forum to pollute.
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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    you're already getting scorched on another thread, so I won't heap insult to injury....... for now
    What thread am i getting scorched on exactly? Seems you're rattled a little...and need that moron to back u up.

    P.s i can also recommend:

    Andrew golota UD Corey sanders
    Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
    Chris Byrd SD Jameel McCline
    Chris Byrd D Andrew Golota
    Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
    Eddie Chambers MD Alexander Dimitrenko.
    Alexander Povetkin MD Marco Huck.

    Jimmy thunder fights too...

    lol
    You are pretty disrespectful for a little piss ant kid who just joined his first boxing forum.

    Do you think behaving like a know it all child is going to make you feel important ?

    You should just leave. Find another forum to pollute.
    Do u know how many notifications i have recieved telling me what a clown you are and to ignore you? Now get off my thread troll unless u are hear to talk boxing! I'm still waiting to see what thread i got scorched on! Link please.
    Last edited by THE PHILOSOPHER; 07-17-2012 at 01:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Wlad klitschko 57-3 (please note there fight record is displayed as it stands today not when wlad fought them!) Current linear champ and olympic gold medallist. Noteable wins include: Byrd x2, peter x2, thompson ( x2 touch woodlol) brewster, chagaev, ibragimov, haye, chambers, rahman, brock, austin, mcline, mercer.

    Vitali klitschko 46-2. A 3X HW champ and an ATG comeback after a 3 year layoff from a potentially career ending injury. Noteable wins include: Sanders, peter, gomez, chisora, briggs, solis, arreola, adamek, hide, williams, johnson, donald, johnson and hoffman.

    Alexander Povetkin 24-0. Povetkin won the WBA title after 2011. Brilliant amateur career capturing olympic gold, a world amateur championships gold and 2 european golds (he finsished his career at 125–7, with all losses avenged) Noteable pro wins include: Byrd, chambers, huck and chagaev.

    Chris byrd 47-5. Byrd is the former WBO and IBF heavyweight champion. He was a three-time U.S. amateur champion and compiled 275 wins in the amateur ranks. During the first half of his career byrd secured easy wins over then norteworthy opponents phil jackson, bert cooper, jimmy thunder and the undefeated cuban eliecier castillo. He also beat holyfield for the vacant IBF strap, won the WBO belt after vitali klitschko retired due to a shoulder injury, outpointed david tua, fought to a draw with golota, beat young prospect davarryl williamson and beat jameel mcline.

    Ruslan Chagaev 32-2-1. Former WBA champ and a gold medallist at the world amateur championships (beat the great felix savon twice). First man to defeat the ukranian prospect Volodymyr Vyrchys. Ruslan also outhustled ruiz and valuev.

    Sultan ibragimov 22-1-1. The former WBO heavyweight champion. Fought his way up to a unification fight with wlad. Has an olympic silver, world amateur silver and european bronze. Noteable wins include briggs, javier mora (who beat up kirk johnson) lance whitaker (who stopped oleg maskaev, outpointed monte barrett and was coming into his fight with iggy with only one debateable loss!) ibragimov easily outpointed an ageing holyfield too.

    Sam peter 39-5. The former WBC heavyweight champion. Beat the p4p great james toney twice (something rahmam, ruiz, jirov and holyfield couldn't do!) the second fight was Considered one of his most polished boxing performances, Peter beat Toney to the punch consistently throughout the twelve rounds. Peter hooked off the jab to put Toney down in round two. Peter also beat maskaev, mcline, taurus sykes, jeremy williams and cuban star yanqui diaz (Diaz fought the legendary felix savon twice and he reportedly scored two knockdowns!)

    Eddie chambers 39-3. Chambers stopped 15–0 derric rossy and defeated dominic guinn, he also beat sam peter, giant ukranian prospect dimitrenko and calvin brock. He recently lost a debateable fight against adamek.

    Tony thompson 38-2. Southpaw thompson has quietly made his way through prospects and contenders zuri lawrence, guinn, diaz, witherspoon, harriss, beck etc throughout his career. In 2004 Tony handed undefeated Cuban amateur star yanqui diaz his first loss, he also holds a dominating TKO win over luan krasniqi and easily defeated Timur Ibragimov in 07.

    David haye 27-2. Haye is a 2 weight world champion. Made his name by beating up the older veterans of this era like ruiz, barrett etc He outpointed the giant valuev to win the WBA strap. As much as i dislike the chap he is clearly a talented fighter, very explosive, athletic etc Just let down by his mouth (but some ppl seem to like that shit!).

    Honourable Mentions: Calvin brock, sergei liakovich, luan krasniqi, james toney, shannon brigs, jameel mcline, corrie sanders, danny williams, odlandier solis, andrew golota, john ruiz, david tua, lamon brewster, ray austin, oleg maskaev, juan carlos gomez, chris arreola, kirk johnson, evander holyfield, fres oquendo, monte barrett, thomasz adamek, davarryl wiliamson, timo hoffman, derrick chisora, robert helenius, alexander dimitrenko, herbie hide, orlin norris, jason estrada, the castillo brothers etc (Some exciting young fighters coming up through the ranks also!!)

    What order would you put them in? Would you have anyone else in the top 10 instead of the others mentioned? Honourable mentions, who did i miss??
    Didnt read

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    Didnt read
    Roughly translated: 'I am actually quite stupid'
    Last edited by THE PHILOSOPHER; 07-17-2012 at 02:42 PM.

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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER View Post
    Didnt read
    Roughly translated: 'I am actually quite stupid'
    Lol cool post bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
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    you're already getting scorched on another thread, so I won't heap insult to injury....... for now
    What thread am i getting scorched on exactly? Seems you're rattled a little...and need that moron to back u up.

    P.s i can also recommend:

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    Lennox Lewis TKO6 Vitali Klitschko
    Chris Byrd SD Jameel McCline
    Chris Byrd D Andrew Golota
    Hasim Rahman KO5 Lennox Lewis
    Eddie Chambers MD Alexander Dimitrenko.
    Alexander Povetkin MD Marco Huck.

    Jimmy thunder fights too...

    lol
    You are pretty disrespectful for a little piss ant kid who just joined his first boxing forum.

    Do you think behaving like a know it all child is going to make you feel important ?

    You should just leave. Find another forum to pollute.

    School starts up again in what... August? September?
    He'll be back in Algebra class and won't have time to post.

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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    If it was most talented Haye would be top 10.

    But as he hasn 't applied those talents much he can't be top ten of Wlad's era.

    So far his most notable achievements have been winning the wba strap and stopping John Ruiz.

    As I said he hasn't done as much as a lot guts whom he may have more talent than. He hasn't achieved what Ruiz has at heavy for example.

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    Default Re: Top 10 heavyweights of wlad's era...

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    If it was most talented Haye would be top 10.

    I might not agree with top 10 (all-time we're talking here), but he certainly is very talented. That cannot be denied.

    But as he hasn 't applied those talents much he can't be top ten of Wlad's era.

    Agree 200% with this statement.

    So far his most notable achievements have been winning the wba strap and stopping John Ruiz.

    Agree with this also, since Valuev and Audley are the others.

    As I said he hasn't done as much as a lot guts whom he may have more talent than. He hasn't achieved what Ruiz has at heavy for example.

    And as much as you'll get shit for this statement, it's true also. I'm no John Ruiz fan (shudder at the thought), but Ruiz did accomplish more in his relatively short reign. Talentwise, no contest. Haye is obviously more talented.


    Well put. Coming from a fellow British boxing fan, it may be better accepted by Haye fans in general. Coming from me..... I'm a hater. Go figure.

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