Scientific Fraud

[El Kabong]

Actually,the world needs a lot more people like me. Enough people to say that consumer economies and a child replica should not be part of the destructive make up kit. Consume at will and let all pay the price later. Its a shitty deal like the kids of tomorrow paying for todays greed and wars. Despicable.

Humans have potential but the greed will consume them. Apply it to Americans or species survival. It is the same thing.

You're despicable

[Andre]

Actually,the world needs a lot more people like me. Enough people to say that consumer economies and a child replica should not be part of the destructive make up kit. Consume at will and let all pay the price later. Its a shitty deal like the kids of tomorrow paying for todays greed and wars. Despicable.

Humans have potential but the greed will consume them. Apply it to Americans or species survival. It is the same thing.

You're despicable

[El Kabong]

1975 : Tornado Outbreaks Blamed On Global Cooling | Real Science


What? Global COOLING you say?!?! What a radical idea why everyone knows we're going through a period of Global Warming not cooling.....well let's just say "Climate Change" that seems like a catch all

[Andre]

Lyle A lot is going on. Global warming is a way of government getting to tax us on the air we breathe out and our farts and that of cows and industrial emissions etc, because they have never been able to work out how to tax us on the air we breathe in.
we already know what these assholes are up to they pay their own teams of scientists 'on both sides' to find evidence to prove their side correct. So that probably off sets the costs (our extra emission taxes) too. we know how they work,the assholes.

That said there are changes in nature occurring and we are part of it as well, the sea is the key to our temperatures too. Not just the bullshit we put into the earth via chemical agriculture ,your rubbish is dumped into the sea off New York theres an island of it out there out of sight boat loads go out to it. There is a 20 mile wide flotilla of western crap thats caught in a current out in the deepest oceans as well. The oil extracted out of Earth could cause pressure but there scientists paid to also prove that isnt the case and yet that natural coling agent is still being pumped out of a hot lava filled planet thats outer shell revolves around its liquid core.Then the oil is put back up into the air and washed into the oceans off the streets from cars etc.Then we over fish them,meanwhile ozone is depleted and major reefs die off reversing currents and also having effects on weather, it all adds up. You have to look more broadly at the whole picture instead of just into politics on who or whats to blame in one little area for right or wrong.

Pointing the finger politically helps nothing but our own conscious for being a part of the destruction. On both sides. It (the argument is inane and insane) even the cost of proving and disproving, is in its self evasive to real action to correct our part of it faster and cost effective.

[El Kabong]

The point I am trying to make Andre is that Scientists and Politicians need to stop treating the populous like babies. Minutes after the tornado touched down in Oklahoma some schmuck liberal was out bashing Republicans about the perils of Anthropogenic Global Warming, like if everyone walked to work that day there wouldn't have been a tornado it's so disingenuous, so smug, so fucking high & mighty to claim that HUMANS CAUSE THE WEATHER....if that actually WAS the case then everyone would take San Diego's weather. (but humans DON'T control the weather....much less the climate)

It chaps my ass when people get up in arms about Anthropogenic Global Warming for a variety of reasons mainly this idea that bad weather can be prevented is along the same lines of the people who used to believe sacrificing virgins would bring good weather....its the same basic premise but do the liberals see the folly of the view? Do they see their hubris? Oh gracious no they just see people who "don't care enough".

Listen I love the environment, I love wildlife, I don't want any of that to go away, I want generation after generation to enjoy it, but I WILL lead a life in which I make use of the technology that is offered to the human species. Al Gore flies to lectures on a private jet, he sells his television network to Oil barons from Qatar and nobody calls him out on it.....does HIS carbon footprint not lead to global warming

The Global Warming folks are assholes and idiots that's just a fact 100%

[CFH]

When did Lyle turn into Miles?

[CFH]

The point I am trying to make Andre is that Scientists and Politicians need to stop treating the populous like babies. Minutes after the tornado touched down in Oklahoma some schmuck liberal was out bashing Republicans about the perils of Anthropogenic Global Warming, like if everyone walked to work that day there wouldn't have been a tornado it's so disingenuous, so smug, so fucking high & mighty to claim that HUMANS CAUSE THE WEATHER....if that actually WAS the case then everyone would take San Diego's weather. (but humans DON'T control the weather....much less the climate)

It chaps my ass when people get up in arms about Anthropogenic Global Warming for a variety of reasons mainly this idea that bad weather can be prevented is along the same lines of the people who used to believe sacrificing virgins would bring good weather....its the same basic premise but do the liberals see the folly of the view? Do they see their hubris? Oh gracious no they just see people who "don't care enough".

Listen I love the environment, I love wildlife, I don't want any of that to go away, I want generation after generation to enjoy it, but I WILL lead a life in which I make use of the technology that is offered to the human species. Al Gore flies to lectures on a private jet, he sells his television network to Oil barons from Qatar and nobody calls him out on it.....does HIS carbon footprint not lead to global warming

The Global Warming folks are assholes and idiots that's just a fact 100%

I've seen you say this dozens of times and, frankly, it is beyond myopic.

I don't give two shits about Al Gore or about your views on global warming are, but does it not occur to you that perhaps Al Gore feels that by flying to various lectures around the world and by getting his perspectives broadcast to as many people as possible that he can have a potentially massive impact on the way people live their lives and thus reduce emissions on a scale that makes his contribution to this problem negligible?

It's a completely reasonable position for him to have and only someone who was completely bereft of the ability to think even semi-critically would not understand it.

[El Kabong]

I've seen you say this dozens of times and, frankly, it is beyond myopic.

I don't give two shits about Al Gore or about your views on global warming are, but does it not occur to you that perhaps Al Gore feels that by flying to various lectures around the world and by getting his perspectives broadcast to as many people as possible that he can have a potentially massive impact on the way people live their lives and thus reduce emissions on a scale that makes his contribution to this problem negligible?

It's a completely reasonable position for him to have and only someone who was completely bereft of the ability to think even semi-critically would not understand it.

Why doesn't Al Gore use his greatest invention The Internet to reach more people.....wouldn't that be more "green"?


CFH, that's fine, you have every right to not care about my views on Global Warming or Al Gore or anything, but you don't have to read my opinions either, I'm certainly not forcing anyone to.


I just find it odd, especially for people who claim to love science so fucking much for them to basically claim that if everyone just walked to work and there were no cars, no factories, no carbon emissions at all that there would be no such storms as the one that hit Oklahoma......on second thought I don't find that odd, I find that idiotic.... incredibly so. And why would I bring that up? Well because right after that tornado touched down I mean RIGHT AFTER there was this little gem in DC...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se3d9--KZe0

To which I say, BULL CRAP!

[CFH]

I've seen you say this dozens of times and, frankly, it is beyond myopic.

I don't give two shits about Al Gore or about your views on global warming are, but does it not occur to you that perhaps Al Gore feels that by flying to various lectures around the world and by getting his perspectives broadcast to as many people as possible that he can have a potentially massive impact on the way people live their lives and thus reduce emissions on a scale that makes his contribution to this problem negligible?

It's a completely reasonable position for him to have and only someone who was completely bereft of the ability to think even semi-critically would not understand it.

Why doesn't Al Gore use his greatest invention The Internet to reach more people.....wouldn't that be more "green"?


CFH, that's fine, you have every right to not care about my views on Global Warming or Al Gore or anything, but you don't have to read my opinions either, I'm certainly not forcing anyone to.


I just find it odd, especially for people who claim to love science so fucking much for them to basically claim that if everyone just walked to work and there were no cars, no factories, no carbon emissions at all that there would be no such storms as the one that hit Oklahoma......on second thought I don't find that odd, I find that idiotic.... incredibly so. And why would I bring that up? Well because right after that tornado touched down I mean RIGHT AFTER there was this little gem in DC...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se3d9--KZe0

To which I say, BULL CRAP!

As far as I know, Al Gore does use the internet to spread his views. He just also uses other means as well because he obviously feels so strongly about it. I simply don't see any hypocrisy in his actions.

[El Kabong]

As far as I know, Al Gore does use the internet to spread his views. He just also uses other means as well because he obviously feels so strongly about it. I simply don't see any hypocrisy in his actions.

Sun News : Al Gore, carbon hypocrite

Added to which Gore owns the company he purchases his "Carbon Offsets" from....so when he pays for his indulgences he pays HIMSELF and when everyone else stupid enough to pay for their indulgences buy their "carbon offsets" they pay Al Gore as well....I hope this helps you on your journey to reality, learning that Al Gore is a fat stupid hypocrite that made the majority of his money from selling his TV network to Al Jazeera which is owned by the Qatari Royal Family who made their millions selling.....selling....anyone have the answer?? OIL!!!...yes no hypocrisy at all there

[Beanz]

You do have a point. Al Gore is a humongous twat. Global warming is real though and him being a twat does nothing to make that any less of a reality.

[El Kabong]

You do have a point. Al Gore is a humongous twat. Global warming is real though and him being a twat does nothing to make that any less of a reality.

Because the large majority of the effete douchebags who preach all this global warming bullshit are wealthy bastards flying in private jets and living luxurious lifestyles while telling Joe Sixpack who lives paycheck to paycheck and works construction "Ooooh, you really shouldn't have a pickup truck because those are bad on gas mileage".....you know, fuck those dudes, those sanctimonious "do as I say not as I do" motherfuckers, I MIGHT listen to them more if they would lead by example rather than by brow beating people who are just trying to live normal lives.

I just find the whole Anthropogenic Global Warming deal to be smug and up its own ass to the point where I have not and will not ever take them seriously....sorry, if the Earth is doomed due to carbon emissions then fuck it we're doomed, we can only be in so much danger for so long until this cause starts losing its edge. If the Earth is going to burst into flames because I bought a steak (the Greenies think cow farms contribute a lot to global warming) then so fucking be it I'll go down in flames laughing at guys like Al Gore, I will NEVER join his side or the side of any who buy into the Anthropogenic Global Warming bullshit.

Climategate....if warming was happening and was due to humans they wouldn't have to FAKE it

[CFH]

As far as I know, Al Gore does use the internet to spread his views. He just also uses other means as well because he obviously feels so strongly about it. I simply don't see any hypocrisy in his actions.

Sun News : Al Gore, carbon hypocrite

Added to which Gore owns the company he purchases his "Carbon Offsets" from....so when he pays for his indulgences he pays HIMSELF and when everyone else stupid enough to pay for their indulgences buy their "carbon offsets" they pay Al Gore as well....I hope this helps you on your journey to reality, learning that Al Gore is a fat stupid hypocrite that made the majority of his money from selling his TV network to Al Jazeera which is owned by the Qatari Royal Family who made their millions selling.....selling....anyone have the answer?? OIL!!!...yes no hypocrisy at all there

Not that I don't trust a source from a Canadian media outlet that I have literally never heard anyone mention ever which appears to be Canada's version of Fox News, but I still don't see unjustifiable hypocrisy. And I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't see it.

First, Gore selling and presumably profiting from carbon offsets does not make mean anything. Plenty of people make money while doing something they believe in. I would suspect that Gore is already independently wealthy and that he uses that money to fund his project, but even if he does not I have no problem with it. He's not forcing anyone to buy from him and if it both helps him raise money to help the planet by helping the planet, then I understand the logic behind it.

Second, I have already addressed the television issue in my previous post, and my points from that post still stand. No matter who he worked with in the modern world of media conglomerates, I have no doubt they could be traced back to oil or any number of industries which directly harm the environment.

[El Kabong]

OK so just because you don't like the source it doesn't mean what they say isn't true. Al Gore IS a hypocrite.....The science is settled on that discussion

[CFH]

OK so just because you don't like the source it doesn't mean what they say isn't true. Al Gore IS a hypocrite.....The science is settled on that discussion

My problem with that source is that I literally know nothing about them and, from what I briefly read, they seem challenged in the credibility department.