Joshua vs Martin -- Plus Undercard.

[Primo Carnera]

$3.5 million is a lot of money.

@kir klandlaing , I heard 3.5 million Pounds not dollars, big difference and that AJ Would be getting close to £8million.

I read £2.5 million and I don't think Martin would be on any more than that (like a cut of PPV). Maybe Joshua gets a cut of PPV but I wouldn't bet on it. No way he makes £8 million for this fight and that's the only way he could possibly do it.

I heard AJ Gets a cut of the PPV, and that he did against Whyte and that's why he earned 3 million .
I could be wrong, loads of rumours around.

[nuggetdotcom]

I'll take the Martin is pony stuff a bit further... I don't think he looks like a big puncher. All his stoppage wins have come against fat bellies that have been stopped before/after facing him.

He hasn't chinned a single fighter that would qualify for a British title shot let alone world (ignoring Glazkov's knee).

That's done it for me , I'm having a punt on Martin

[Batman]

I'm thinking about bull shitting this fight up to my dad, telling him it is the fight of the century,it'll be a bloodbath, both are ranked as being up there in the p4p rankings, Joshua is better than Ali etc etc

hopefully it'll convince him to pay for it and then I can go round and watch it for free/

Is it still taking advantage of the elderly if they are your parents?

[erics44]

pop round to mine if you want, im getting it and ill probly have no mates

[smashup]

Glenn Mcrory just pointed out on Sky Sports news that for someone who's been in Big Bear training (Strength Training, nutritionist etc) Martin looks in shit shape.
I agree, i think he's all mouth.

[Master]

Glenn Mcrory just pointed out on Sky Sports news that for someone who's been in Big Bear training (Strength Training, nutritionist etc) Martin looks in shit shape.
I agree, i think he's all mouth.

He is. Martin will get sparked.

[GAME]

Glenn Mcrory just pointed out on Sky Sports news that for someone who's been in Big Bear training (Strength Training, nutritionist etc) Martin looks in shit shape.
I agree, i think he's all mouth.

You can see from the training videos Martin isn't a natural athlete but neither was fury and he just beat one of the best heavyweights ever (statistically) Joshua is still a 15 fight novice coming off a tough fight at British level.

I think if you've got a spare tenner lying around its worth putting it on Martin by ko given the odds are what they are. I'm not saying Joshua isn't the real deal cus he may prove it but what we do know is that martins very laid back. Almost too laid back at times considering that draw he had. But that works in his favour. He's not gonna swing away whilst Joshua's unloading on him early looking a million dollars. He will soak it up and before we know it Joshua will be taking huge gulps of air cus his muscles require too much oxygen and Martin will start getting the back hand working.

That's just one scenario I see playing out. Equally Antony could make short work of Martin but as far as we know martins never been down or hurt amateur or pro. Joshua's been down and stopped and we saw him hurt last time against wyhyte who didn't know how to throw a straight punch. It's a risky fight. Closer than the bookies think

[ross]

Glenn Mcrory just pointed out on Sky Sports news that for someone who's been in Big Bear training (Strength Training, nutritionist etc) Martin looks in shit shape.
I agree, i think he's all mouth.

You can see from the training videos Martin isn't a natural athlete but neither was fury and he just beat one of the best heavyweights ever (statistically) Joshua is still a 15 fight novice coming off a tough fight at British level.

I think if you've got a spare tenner lying around its worth putting it on Martin by ko given the odds are what they are. I'm not saying Joshua isn't the real deal cus he may prove it but what we do know is that martins very laid back. Almost too laid back at times considering that draw he had. But that works in his favour. He's not gonna swing away whilst Joshua's unloading on him early looking a million dollars. He will soak it up and before we know it Joshua will be taking huge gulps of air cus his muscles require too much oxygen and Martin will start getting the back hand working.

That's just one scenario I see playing out. Equally Antony could make short work of Martin but as far as we know martins never been down or hurt amateur or pro. Joshua's been down and stopped and we saw him hurt last time against wyhyte who didn't know how to throw a straight punch. It's a risky fight. Closer than the bookies think

Exactly! Put Joshua on a circuit with Fury and I gurantee he will tire first. Stop getting so excited about BMI's McCrory needs to remember that Martin is a big man and not a cruiser weight that had to make weight or face the big men like Martin. Charles doesnt have to cut weight. Iv seen some of the training hes been doing and its good stuff, proper fast twitch reaction stuff. Fuck sakes, this lot dont learn! Like you said Fury v Klitschko prime example. Klitschko even more ripped than Joshua but just couldnt handle Furys movement.

We will see.

I can quite easily seeing Martin using a simple jab from the off and Joshua looking the novice he is.

[ono]

Most fans are so dazzled by "world title" they get blinded about substance. Martin is the guy having the new experience, he's never witnessed anything close to this attention or size of fight. AJ has a far stronger resume already (unless you want to count Glazkov getting kneecapped as legit) .

If Martin beats AJ it's because he's much better than he looks.

The way Martin stands upright, if he makes it out of the 3rd round he has a granite chin.

I see it this way too. AJ is much more experienced than Martin when you think about it. He has less rounds but he has all of this AM experience and he has the experience of fighting in big, sold out arenas. His level of opposition is higher than Martin's and he is just better at everything. I'd be surprised with anything other than a Joshua Ko win.

[ross]

His Am experience includes being outboxed and made to look like a novice in the olympics!

[Beanz]

His Am experience includes being outboxed and made to look like a novice in the olympics!

He was a novice on the international scene. He only started fighting at 18. Fury got beat by Price and so was not selected for the Olympics but apparently that doesn't mean anything unless you actually get there and win a gold medal (however deserved or undeserved), and then that just proves you are clueless and are never going to be anything but a glorified body builder. Speed, explosive power, the same things that made a BIG man in Joshua a blisteringly fast athlete / sprinter are not the same attributes used for endurance, but one does not preclude the other.

[ross]

His Am experience includes being outboxed and made to look like a novice in the olympics!

He was a novice on the international scene. He only started fighting at 18. Fury got beat by Price and so was not selected for the Olympics but apparently that doesn't mean anything unless you actually get there and win a gold medal (however deserved or undeserved), and then that just proves you are clueless and are never going to be anything but a glorified body builder. Speed, explosive power, the same things that made a BIG man in Joshua a blisteringly fast athlete / sprinter are not the same attributes used for endurance, but one does not preclude the other.

Iv had a beer but thats a bit rambly. Is there a point?

[Beanz]

His Am experience includes being outboxed and made to look like a novice in the olympics!

He was a novice on the international scene. He only started fighting at 18. Fury got beat by Price and so was not selected for the Olympics but apparently that doesn't mean anything unless you actually get there and win a gold medal (however deserved or undeserved), and then that just proves you are clueless and are never going to be anything but a glorified body builder. Speed, explosive power, the same things that made a BIG man in Joshua a blisteringly fast athlete / sprinter are not the same attributes used for endurance, but one does not preclude the other.

Iv had a beer but thats a bit rambly. Is there a point?

Yeah..the point is you are an idiot and your post presents no meaningful information other than reminding us that you don't rate Joshua. Succinct enough for you.

[Primo Carnera]

Glenn Mcrory just pointed out on Sky Sports news that for someone who's been in Big Bear training (Strength Training, nutritionist etc) Martin looks in shit shape.
I agree, i think he's all mouth.

You can see from the training videos Martin isn't a natural athlete but neither was fury and he just beat one of the best heavyweights ever (statistically) Joshua is still a 15 fight novice coming off a tough fight at British level.

I think if you've got a spare tenner lying around its worth putting it on Martin by ko given the odds are what they are. I'm not saying Joshua isn't the real deal cus he may prove it but what we do know is that martins very laid back. Almost too laid back at times considering that draw he had. But that works in his favour. He's not gonna swing away whilst Joshua's unloading on him early looking a million dollars. He will soak it up and before we know it Joshua will be taking huge gulps of air cus his muscles require too much oxygen and Martin will start getting the back hand working.

That's just one scenario I see playing out. Equally Antony could make short work of Martin but as far as we know martins never been down or hurt amateur or pro. Joshua's been down and stopped and we saw him hurt last time against wyhyte who didn't know how to throw a straight punch. It's a risky fight. Closer than the bookies think

Exactly! Put Joshua on a circuit with Fury and I gurantee he will tire first. Stop getting so excited about BMI's McCrory needs to remember that Martin is a big man and not a cruiser weight that had to make weight or face the big men like Martin. Charles doesnt have to cut weight. Iv seen some of the training hes been doing and its good stuff, proper fast twitch reaction stuff. Fuck sakes, this lot dont learn! Like you said Fury v Klitschko prime example. Klitschko even more ripped than Joshua but just couldnt handle Furys movement.

We will see.

I can quite easily seeing Martin using a simple jab from the off and Joshua looking the novice he is.

I don't think he was, was he?
To be fair Ross, I'm not arguing with you, that could well happen. I personally think Joshua will get through this....just, and a lot more difficult than most people are thinking.
But, if it happens how some of these other guys are saying, you're gonna have to give AJ some credit. You won't be able to say "Martin is shit!" After the event.

[ross]

Glenn Mcrory just pointed out on Sky Sports news that for someone who's been in Big Bear training (Strength Training, nutritionist etc) Martin looks in shit shape.
I agree, i think he's all mouth.

You can see from the training videos Martin isn't a natural athlete but neither was fury and he just beat one of the best heavyweights ever (statistically) Joshua is still a 15 fight novice coming off a tough fight at British level.

I think if you've got a spare tenner lying around its worth putting it on Martin by ko given the odds are what they are. I'm not saying Joshua isn't the real deal cus he may prove it but what we do know is that martins very laid back. Almost too laid back at times considering that draw he had. But that works in his favour. He's not gonna swing away whilst Joshua's unloading on him early looking a million dollars. He will soak it up and before we know it Joshua will be taking huge gulps of air cus his muscles require too much oxygen and Martin will start getting the back hand working.

That's just one scenario I see playing out. Equally Antony could make short work of Martin but as far as we know martins never been down or hurt amateur or pro. Joshua's been down and stopped and we saw him hurt last time against wyhyte who didn't know how to throw a straight punch. It's a risky fight. Closer than the bookies think

Exactly! Put Joshua on a circuit with Fury and I gurantee he will tire first. Stop getting so excited about BMI's McCrory needs to remember that Martin is a big man and not a cruiser weight that had to make weight or face the big men like Martin. Charles doesnt have to cut weight. Iv seen some of the training hes been doing and its good stuff, proper fast twitch reaction stuff. Fuck sakes, this lot dont learn! Like you said Fury v Klitschko prime example. Klitschko even more ripped than Joshua but just couldnt handle Furys movement.

We will see.

I can quite easily seeing Martin using a simple jab from the off and Joshua looking the novice he is.

I don't think he was, was he?
To be fair Ross, I'm not arguing with you, that could well happen. I personally think Joshua will get through this....just, and a lot more difficult than most people are thinking.
But, if it happens how some of these other guys are saying, you're gonna have to give AJ some credit. You won't be able to say "Martin is shit!" After the event.

Joshua will not look great

Just remind yourself of Price v Thompson...