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    Manny is older in boxing years and going up in weight is much harder.
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    Without going into who ducked who...Nassems biggest advantage was his speed. He stalked his opponents with ease cause they couldn't touch him mostly. He wouldn't have that advantage over Floyd who was a tad quicker. This fight would have turned into nasseem stalking and Floyd counter punching his way to a win
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    Default Re: Floyd vs Prince Naz

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Manny is older in boxing years and going up in weight is much harder.
    Mate, have you swallowed some shit talk pills because it's coming out all over the forum!
    You can't handle the truth!
    Manny had a peak period and was no where near that fighter when he fought Floyd

    if anything mayweather improved as time went on
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    Without going into who ducked who...Nassems biggest advantage was his speed. He stalked his opponents with ease cause they couldn't touch him mostly. He wouldn't have that advantage over Floyd who was a tad quicker. This fight would have turned into nasseem stalking and Floyd counter punching his way to a win
    If Zab Judah caused Floyd problems with his southpaw stance and power then Naz would have done the same. Floyd does have difficulties with unorthodox fighters and the power Naz carried would have troubled Floyd. I am sure Mayweather would have adjusted but it may have been too late by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Without going into who ducked who...Nassems biggest advantage was his speed. He stalked his opponents with ease cause they couldn't touch him mostly. He wouldn't have that advantage over Floyd who was a tad quicker. This fight would have turned into nasseem stalking and Floyd counter punching his way to a win
    If Zab Judah caused Floyd problems with his southpaw stance and power then Naz would have done the same. Floyd does have difficulties with unorthodox fighters and the power Naz carried would have troubled Floyd. I am sure Mayweather would have adjusted but it may have been too late by then.
    Everyone "has problems" with unorthodox fighters because they're UNORTHODOX!
    And refresh my memory, did Zab beat Floyd?
    Turn it round and say "If Naz can get schooled by MAB then the same can happen with Floyd."
    Ah, ok then.

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    Default Re: Floyd vs Prince Naz

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Without going into who ducked who...Nassems biggest advantage was his speed. He stalked his opponents with ease cause they couldn't touch him mostly. He wouldn't have that advantage over Floyd who was a tad quicker. This fight would have turned into nasseem stalking and Floyd counter punching his way to a win
    If Zab Judah caused Floyd problems with his southpaw stance and power then Naz would have done the same. Floyd does have difficulties with unorthodox fighters and the power Naz carried would have troubled Floyd. I am sure Mayweather would have adjusted but it may have been too late by then.
    Everyone "has problems" with unorthodox fighters because they're UNORTHODOX!
    And refresh my memory, did Zab beat Floyd?
    Turn it round and say "If Naz can get schooled by MAB then the same can happen with Floyd."
    Ah, ok then.
    Floyd had particular issues with southpaw fighters that could punch. Naz would fit into that category. The Naz that fought MAB may have been past his best but peak version at featherweight where Floyd would have to go down to would have made it difficult for money man. Just saying.
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    Default Re: Floyd vs Prince Naz

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Without going into who ducked who...Nassems biggest advantage was his speed. He stalked his opponents with ease cause they couldn't touch him mostly. He wouldn't have that advantage over Floyd who was a tad quicker. This fight would have turned into nasseem stalking and Floyd counter punching his way to a win
    If Zab Judah caused Floyd problems with his southpaw stance and power then Naz would have done the same. Floyd does have difficulties with unorthodox fighters and the power Naz carried would have troubled Floyd. I am sure Mayweather would have adjusted but it may have been too late by then.
    Everyone "has problems" with unorthodox fighters because they're UNORTHODOX!
    And refresh my memory, did Zab beat Floyd?
    Turn it round and say "If Naz can get schooled by MAB then the same can happen with Floyd."
    Ah, ok then.
    Floyd had particular issues with southpaw fighters that could punch. Naz would fit into that category. The Naz that fought MAB may have been past his best but peak version at featherweight where Floyd would have to go down to would have made it difficult for money man. Just saying.
    1. "The Naz that fought MAB may have been past his best."
    Here we go, moved away from the Ingles blah,blah, bollocks. He was still 35-0 , and nobody ever says that MAB might've been drained after the first Morales fight and 4 fights in a year do they? How about maybe MAB Exposed the myth?
    2. "but peak version at featherweight where Floyd would have to go down to would have made it difficult for money man."
    There was 4lbs between them, Floyd offered Warren a catch weight slap bang in the middle. Or wait, does Floyd have to come down 4lbs and Tie his boots together just to make it fair?

    3. "Had problems with Southpaws who can bang"
    Wait a minute, doesn't everyone? That is some one way street you live on!
    Listen, @Fenster made the most sense here (as per) by saying Naz was shorter and had way less reach and it would be unrealistic to think it could be some sort of fair match. I can accept that, that's just common sense.
    But some of the factually incorrect drivel you and Eric spout off is ridiculous.

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    Default Re: Floyd vs Prince Naz

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    Without going into who ducked who...Nassems biggest advantage was his speed. He stalked his opponents with ease cause they couldn't touch him mostly. He wouldn't have that advantage over Floyd who was a tad quicker. This fight would have turned into nasseem stalking and Floyd counter punching his way to a win
    If Zab Judah caused Floyd problems with his southpaw stance and power then Naz would have done the same. Floyd does have difficulties with unorthodox fighters and the power Naz carried would have troubled Floyd. I am sure Mayweather would have adjusted but it may have been too late by then.
    Everyone "has problems" with unorthodox fighters because they're UNORTHODOX!
    And refresh my memory, did Zab beat Floyd?
    Turn it round and say "If Naz can get schooled by MAB then the same can happen with Floyd."
    Ah, ok then.
    Floyd had particular issues with southpaw fighters that could punch. Naz would fit into that category. The Naz that fought MAB may have been past his best but peak version at featherweight where Floyd would have to go down to would have made it difficult for money man. Just saying.
    1. "The Naz that fought MAB may have been past his best."
    Here we go, moved away from the Ingles blah,blah, bollocks. He was still 35-0 , and nobody ever says that MAB might've been drained after the first Morales fight and 4 fights in a year do they? How about maybe MAB Exposed the myth?
    2. "but peak version at featherweight where Floyd would have to go down to would have made it difficult for money man."
    There was 4lbs between them, Floyd offered Warren a catch weight slap bang in the middle. Or wait, does Floyd have to come down 4lbs and Tie his boots together just to make it fair?

    3. "Had problems with Southpaws who can bang"
    Wait a minute, doesn't everyone? That is some one way street you live on!
    Listen, @Fenster made the most sense here (as per) by saying Naz was shorter and had way less reach and it would be unrealistic to think it could be some sort of fair match. I can accept that, that's just common sense.
    But some of the factually incorrect drivel you and Eric spout off is ridiculous.
    Bless. Do not get upset over this.

    Naz was getting knocked down more near the end of his career and it is true he was not the same fighter after his bust up with Ingle.

    All I said was Naz would have had a good chance winning at featherweight at his peak against Floyd.

    Naz was shorter than most his opponents so that never caused him problems.

    Just saying.
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    Default Re: Floyd vs Prince Naz

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Without going into who ducked who...Nassems biggest advantage was his speed. He stalked his opponents with ease cause they couldn't touch him mostly. He wouldn't have that advantage over Floyd who was a tad quicker. This fight would have turned into nasseem stalking and Floyd counter punching his way to a win
    If Zab Judah caused Floyd problems with his southpaw stance and power then Naz would have done the same. Floyd does have difficulties with unorthodox fighters and the power Naz carried would have troubled Floyd. I am sure Mayweather would have adjusted but it may have been too late by then.
    Everyone "has problems" with unorthodox fighters because they're UNORTHODOX!
    And refresh my memory, did Zab beat Floyd?
    Turn it round and say "If Naz can get schooled by MAB then the same can happen with Floyd."
    Ah, ok then.
    Floyd had particular issues with southpaw fighters that could punch. Naz would fit into that category. The Naz that fought MAB may have been past his best but peak version at featherweight where Floyd would have to go down to would have made it difficult for money man. Just saying.
    1. "The Naz that fought MAB may have been past his best."
    Here we go, moved away from the Ingles blah,blah, bollocks. He was still 35-0 , and nobody ever says that MAB might've been drained after the first Morales fight and 4 fights in a year do they? How about maybe MAB Exposed the myth?
    2. "but peak version at featherweight where Floyd would have to go down to would have made it difficult for money man."
    There was 4lbs between them, Floyd offered Warren a catch weight slap bang in the middle. Or wait, does Floyd have to come down 4lbs and Tie his boots together just to make it fair?

    3. "Had problems with Southpaws who can bang"
    Wait a minute, doesn't everyone? That is some one way street you live on!
    Listen, @Fenster made the most sense here (as per) by saying Naz was shorter and had way less reach and it would be unrealistic to think it could be some sort of fair match. I can accept that, that's just common sense.
    But some of the factually incorrect drivel you and Eric spout off is ridiculous.
    Bless. Do not get upset over this.

    Naz was getting knocked down more near the end of his career and it is true he was not the same fighter after his bust up with Ingle.

    All I said was Naz would have had a good chance winning at featherweight at his peak against Floyd.

    Naz was shorter than most his opponents so that never caused him problems.

    Just saying.
    I'm not getting upset sweet pea, just a tad frustrated at the lack of intelligence I'm encountering here. Usually in a mythical match up, it's Prime v Prime, but you want to handicap Floyd in order to make it a fair and competitive fight. But that's ok, because it proves that I am right and you are desperate for somebody to beat Floyd even if it is only a mythical matchup in your head.
    as for "Naz being shorter than most his other opponents so that never caused him problems". well it did against MAB.
    Maybe, just maybe , and it's a bit of a long shot , apart from MAB, the rest of the guys he fought weren't good enough to make the advantage tell and shock horror, may I suggest that perhaps they weren't as good as Floyd?
    However, I am willing to concede that IF Naz was at his Prime and IF Floyd wasn't at his prime and IF Floyd came down half a stone and was drained and IF Floyd's arms were shorter and IF Floyd was 6 inches shorter and IF Naz was a bit better and IF Floyd was only as good as good as say, Kevin Kelley, then it would be a pretty competitive fight and Naz would stand a very good chance!!!!
    enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Without going into who ducked who...Nassems biggest advantage was his speed. He stalked his opponents with ease cause they couldn't touch him mostly. He wouldn't have that advantage over Floyd who was a tad quicker. This fight would have turned into nasseem stalking and Floyd counter punching his way to a win
    If Zab Judah caused Floyd problems with his southpaw stance and power then Naz would have done the same. Floyd does have difficulties with unorthodox fighters and the power Naz carried would have troubled Floyd. I am sure Mayweather would have adjusted but it may have been too late by then.
    Everyone "has problems" with unorthodox fighters because they're UNORTHODOX!
    And refresh my memory, did Zab beat Floyd?
    Turn it round and say "If Naz can get schooled by MAB then the same can happen with Floyd."
    Ah, ok then.
    Floyd had particular issues with southpaw fighters that could punch. Naz would fit into that category. The Naz that fought MAB may have been past his best but peak version at featherweight where Floyd would have to go down to would have made it difficult for money man. Just saying.
    Look man I liked Naz but he was so out of balance ain't no way he could overcome Floyds precises movements.

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    Default Re: Floyd vs Prince Naz

    Floyd is levels above a prime Hamed , not even in the same universe. Hamed wouldn't win a round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Floyd is levels above a prime Hamed , not even in the same universe. Hamed wouldn't win a round
    Naz would not have to he was capable of KTFO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Floyd is levels above a prime Hamed , not even in the same universe. Hamed wouldn't win a round
    Naz would not have to he was capable of KTFO.
    Every fighter Floyd fought was "Capable of KTFO". How many actually did it? Oh yeah, that's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
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    Floyd is levels above a prime Hamed , not even in the same universe. Hamed wouldn't win a round
    Naz would not have to he was capable of KTFO.
    Every fighter Floyd fought was "Capable of KTFO". How many actually did it? Oh yeah, that's right.
    Floyd avoided anyone too dangerous but when he did he was knocked down and wobbled enough for me to speculate that Naz could have knocked him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    Floyd is levels above a prime Hamed , not even in the same universe. Hamed wouldn't win a round
    Naz would not have to he was capable of KTFO.
    Every fighter Floyd fought was "Capable of KTFO". How many actually did it? Oh yeah, that's right.
    Floyd avoided anyone too dangerous but when he did he was knocked down and wobbled enough for me to speculate that Naz could have knocked him out.
    Did Naz hit harder than the guys that "knocked down (??) and wobbled" Floyd? Not p4p, but in reality?
    Did Naz have more power than Canelo , a BIG LMW for example, or Maidana, a big WW? And many others.
    Like I said before, you're desperate to see Floyd get beat , even if it is in a "Virtual" fight.
    Tell me, do you get your kicks from playing Boxing computer games and being Floyd's opponent and KOing him? dear oh dear!

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