Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?

[walrus]

So Freedom is an SJW now then? His thread.

And no ..Racism is not only banned for good reason on the forum, it's not normal or natural, it is learned behaviour. Passed down prejudice from ignorant parents or peers. Basic stuff. Kids don't give a shit what race other kids are until they are brainwashed by old people with a chip on their shoulder or genuine grudge.

Breaking, racist babies on the rise

Could babies start showing racist traits before they mumble their first word?

That’s the finding of two new studies out of the University of Toronto, published recently in the journal Child Development.

The first study had infants listen to either happy or sad music, and then look at pictures of adult faces. Infants between 6 and 9 months looked at faces of their own race for longer after listening to happy music, and faces of other races for longer after listening to sad music. It’s not clear why the infants made these associations.

In the second study, infants between 6 and 8 months watched videos of a woman looking at a corner of the TV screen. In some videos, the woman is gazing at an animal; in others, the animal appears in a different corner of the screen. The infants were more likely to follow the adult’s line of sight if she was of their own race, indicating that infants are more likely to learn from adults of their own race than adults of other races.

These aren’t the first studies to find that young children can show racial biases — a 2014 study found that 15-month-olds show preference to adults of their own race, the Daily Mail reported — but these findings indicate these biases begin earlier than previously thought as well as offer new reasoning behind the tendencies.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....ence-says/amp/

[Dia bando]

Remember to look after ones own is natural nothing wrong with that.!
Trouble is people is over analysis things and then after the outcome pick what suits.!

[Beanz]

It is an understandable set of conclusions to reach, but if you are doing so in order to justify the idea that being racist is natural, you are mistaken. Implicit Bias is not Racism. This is why Psychologists are usually white grey haired old cunts who need a kick up the arse. They are on the most part, actually mental and rather than deal with that they project the idea that the whole world must be...and they are going to fix them. The same thing happens with people who say things like "Not All" or those who want to pretend that it's OK to justify racism as entirely natural. Projection.If you are uncomfortable with your own natural implicit bias you are not going to deal with that problem very efficiently by running away from it. You have to acknowledge it.

The most uncomfortable truth to first comprehend is that there is no such thing as race. Racism is real but the idea of Race is a social construct. You cannot avoid the science it shouts it at us but we are so conditioned by the idea it exists we live are lives as though it is real. We do this with many things though and it is how we make sense of the world. Visible differences in skin colour are accidents of history. Genetic mixture and displacement are what makes us Human Beings. There is no convenient cutlery draw of borders in which the forks stay here and the spoons go in this divide and the knives here, never to ever touch. 8000 years ago Europe was full of brown skinned people. You can have sub-species of Chimps but not humans, there is no biological criteria filled which can even make race a meaningful category.

It is all Samuel Morton's fault the racist twat.

[walrus]

I’m implicit bias is a psych term. It happens and the subconscious level and may differ from our declared beliefs

Implicit Biases Predict Behavior in the Real World

Extensive research has documented the disturbing effects of implicit racial biases in a variety of realms ranging from classrooms to courtrooms to hospitals. Consider these examples:

A 2012 study used identical case vignettes to examine how pediatricians’ implicit racial attitudes affect treatment recommendations for four common pediatric conditions. Results indicated that as pediatricians’ pro-White implicit biases increased, they were more likely to prescribe painkillers for vignette patients who were White as opposed to Black. This is just one example of how understanding implicit racial biases may help explain differential health care treatment, even for youths.
Other research explored the connection between criminal sentencing and Afrocentric features bias, which refers to the generally negative judgments and beliefs that many people hold regarding individuals who possess Afrocentric features such as dark skin, a wide nose, and full lips. Researchers found that when controlling for numerous factors (e.g., seriousness of the primary offense, number of prior offenses, etc.), individuals with the most prominent Afrocentric features received longer sentences than their less Afrocentrically featured counterparts.
This phenomenon was observed intraracially in both their Black and White male inmate samples.
Barriers to Opportunity: Implicit Bias & Structural Racialization

[TitoFan]

Ahh..... a study on "racist babies". I was wondering when someone was going to spend money on this incredibly, vastly needed study. I'd rank that right up there with the life-altering study that came out in 2005, a description of which I was able to find, and share below:


"Effects of Backwards Speech and Speaker Variability in Language Discrimination by Rats, a study from the Journal of Experimental Psychology in 2005, found that rats were not always able to tell the difference between recordings of Japanese and Dutch being spoken backwards. Apparently they were trying to find a link between infant humans and other mammals rather than discover that rats don’t understand human languages when they are reversed."



Where would we be without science.

[brocktonblockbust]

it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions

[Beanz]

it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions

Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.

[brocktonblockbust]

Beanz you Indo-Chinese Altaic Eskimo

[walrus]

it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions

Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.

Beanz I almost fear writing this but what is your issue with the psych field. I have seen many people with serious issues have functioning greatly improved by CBT and other treatments. I’m just curious if you had a bad personal experience or you just react to what you have read and heard and are looking at it only with an external viewpoint. Please note I’m not calling u a cunt I’m just curious. If I hadn’t seen it work and help people I wouldn’t be asking.

[Gandalf]

it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions

Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.

They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.

In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.

Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.

You do need a shrink though.

[Gandalf]

That does sound a bit rude, but I mean that in the nicest way possible. If those MRI's are not working you need to try something else.

[Fenster]

Isn't "gammon heads" racist, it's directed solely at the white man?

[Gandalf]

Yep, it is a bit racist and describing experts in their fields as "mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest" is rather strong stuff from a bloke who has a degree in art. However, in saying that I don't really have a problem with it. Beanz has an issue with the white man and that's up to him.

[walrus]

Isn't "gammon heads" racist, it's directed solely at the white man?

Yes, it’s part of #whitegenocide

[Beanz]

Isn't "gammon heads" racist, it's directed solely at the white man?

Hardly. Firstly no such thing as a white man. I already said we are all mixed race. Secondly you have to be furiously pink in the face from literally fucking a pig if you are David Cameron or tearing your shirt off after being banned from YouTube if you are Alex Jones.