I was wrong!! Hatton is all wrong for 147!!

[JonesJrMayweather]

Hatton looked good through 3 and then the ref started actin stupid...

So what they are holding, let them try to work out of it.......dont stop the action everydamn time they get close to eachother...

American girlish REferees will be the downfall of Hatton...NOT mayweather..

Why don't you watch the fight again...there several times in the fight when Collazo put his arms out to his side the show everyone that Hatton was holding the shit out of him and wasn't punching...even whith collazo's arm spread wide hatton didn't even throw which mean he got hurt during some of those inside exchanges and was hesitant to do what he wants to do...hold and hit...but he got hit so he just wanted to hold instead...all that being said i still thought he won 115-113 with the knockdown 115-112

[El Kabong]

Now when Collazo held his arms out, I was just hoping for a body combination. What a bastard. When I fight the ref is never a person you look to for help. If you're in with a bully you bully them right back, instead Luis just sort of sat there, didn't push off, didn't try to sling Hatton off of him, just sat there.

I mean that's just the way I like fighting though...I found it annoying how Luis looked for help from the ref, if he had ever seen tape of Ricky he would know to expect that and should be better prepared for it. Besides Ricky got on the inside somehow, Luis let him hold him and sometimes instigated the clinches himself

[MRMANICK]

Now when Collazo held his arms out, I was just hoping for a body combination. What a B******. When I fight the ref is never a person you look to for help. If you're in with a bully you bully them right back, instead Luis just sort of sat there, didn't push off, didn't try to sling Hatton off of him, just sat there.

I mean that's just the way I like fighting though...I found it annoying how Luis looked for help from the ref, if he had ever seen tape of Ricky he would know to expect that and should be better prepared for it. Besides Ricky got on the inside somehow, Luis let him hold him and sometimes instigated the clinches himself

Just because you know a guy is gonna do it ahead of time still doesn't make him right for doing it.Theres no way to really justify holding and clinching unless your-a) hurt and need to hold on to survive or b) your afraid of your opponents power. I fight just like you and I never have agreed with alot of holding. It shows a lack of skill and confidence. If you can't beat me straight up then what does that say about you.

[El Kabong]

Holding is a strategy used for more than being hurt or tired. Fighters with shorter or longer reach can use it to smother the other fighter's offense. Also it can open up the body and head for punches AFTER the break (break caused by the fighters not the ref, because THAT is illegal).

Had Ricky broke those clinches and flurried then clinched again it would have been a FAAAAR easier fight for him. That's what he usually does anyways.

Holding is not a lack of anything...Ali held did he lack skill or confidence. Oh damn I forgot no one brings up anything bad about Ali, EVER, because he was sooooo great we are just in awe, he didn't even have to step in the ring to beat someone

[JonesJrMayweather]

i was never in awe of ali...i thinnk too many people bought into his catch phrase "Im the greatest" when in actuality he was just one of the best in his era...

[MRMANICK]

Holding is a strategy used for more than being hurt or tired. Fighters with shorter or longer reach can use it to smother the other fighter's offense. Also it can open up the body and head for punches AFTER the break (break caused by the fighters not the ref, because THAT is illegal).

Had Ricky broke those clinches and flurried then clinched again it would have been a FAAAAR easier fight for him. That's what he usually does anyways.

Holding is not a lack of anything...Ali held did he lack skill or confidence. Oh damn I forgot no one brings up anything bad about Ali, EVER, because he was sooooo great we are just in awe, he didn't even have to step in the ring to beat someone

If thats your way of winning then fine but you'll never get me to its right .By the way holding is technical illegal but its done by so many that it has become tolerated.Were talkin about hatton not ali so please don't try to compare a proven legend to hatton. Its offensive. Well ruiz holds alot too so you must think hes great too.

[El Kabong]

See "Don't compare Hatton to Ali"...Ali did TONS of illegal shit, but we never hear anyone complain about it, why?

Ali's the greatest, his shit smells like roses and he's muslim too, oh that is sooo cool!

Holding is illegal the way Henry Akinwade does it, holding as well as pushing as well as holding and hitting VARY from ref to ref. Lennox Lewis held and hit, Ali held and hit, Hopkins pushed off with his shoulder, Evander used his headbutt, Ruiz holds and hits, and on and on and on and guess what those guys USUALLY won, is it illegal, yes and no. If the ref doesn't do anything about it then it ain't illegal now is it?

It comes down to the ref and that my friend is the bottom line!

[MRMANICK]

See "Don't compare Hatton to Ali"...Ali did TONS of illegal S***, but we never hear anyone complain about it, why?

Ali's the greatest, his S*** smells like roses and he's muslim too, oh that is sooo cool!

Holding is illegal the way Henry Akinwade does it, holding as well as pushing as well as holding and hitting VARY from ref to ref. Lennox Lewis held and hit, Ali held and hit, Hopkins pushed off with his shoulder, Evander used his headbutt, Ruiz holds and hits, and on and on and on and guess what those guys USUALLY won, is it illegal, yes and no. If the ref doesn't do anything about it then it ain't illegal now is it?

It comes down to the ref and that my friend is the bottom line!

So if the ref don't see it then it ain't illegal. I bet you think that if a tree feel in the woods and no one was around to hear it that it didn't make a sound too don't you. Thats weak.Once again we talkin about hatton not ali. And ali wasn't a dirty guy in the ring. Far from it. His personal life is his business. But he wasn't dirty in the ring. When he won it was straight up and when he lost it was straight up. Like i said don't compare the 2 because as a boxer ricky would hope to be half as good as ali was.

[Purist]

See "Don't compare Hatton to Ali"...Ali did TONS of illegal shit, but we never hear anyone complain about it, why?

illegal stuff such as?

[El Gamo]

See "Don't compare Hatton to Ali"...Ali did TONS of illegal shit, but we never hear anyone complain about it, why?

Ali's the greatest, his shit smells like roses and he's muslim too, oh that is sooo cool!

Holding is illegal the way Henry Akinwade does it, holding as well as pushing as well as holding and hitting VARY from ref to ref. Lennox Lewis held and hit, Ali held and hit, Hopkins pushed off with his shoulder, Evander used his headbutt, Ruiz holds and hits, and on and on and on and guess what those guys USUALLY won, is it illegal, yes and no. If the ref doesn't do anything about it then it ain't illegal now is it?

It comes down to the ref and that my friend is the bottom line!

What has him being Muslim got to do with anything fool?

[AC-Cobra]

See "Don't compare Hatton to Ali"...Ali did TONS of illegal shit, but we never hear anyone complain about it, why?

Ali's the greatest, his shit smells like roses and he's muslim too, oh that is sooo cool!

Holding is illegal the way Henry Akinwade does it, holding as well as pushing as well as holding and hitting VARY from ref to ref. Lennox Lewis held and hit, Ali held and hit, Hopkins pushed off with his shoulder, Evander used his headbutt, Ruiz holds and hits, and on and on and on and guess what those guys USUALLY won, is it illegal, yes and no. If the ref doesn't do anything about it then it ain't illegal now is it?

It comes down to the ref and that my friend is the bottom line!

What has him being Muslim got to do with anything fool?

Yeah, was agreeing with you earlier Lyle but whats that about? Maybe try and stick to Hatton...

[El Kabong]

illegal stuff such as?

You know damn well what he did Starr, why is everyone so fuckin ignorant about this shit. Holding and hitting, hooking the back of the head and hitting, backhanding the jab, Dundee cutting Ali's glove vs Cooper, the ropes in Zaire, keeping his left arm extended and on Joe Frazier for prolonged periods of time.

Ali did PLENTY of illegal stuff but he's the greatest and no one ever questions it....honestly he's the most boring boxer until John Ruiz laced up the gloves...and YES it was PAINFUL watching him fight after the Liston rematch, soooo boring