Alright this is enough hype people, Joe Calzaghe aint superman!

[chrisbird13]

Well I think he has to fight as many great fighters now as possible to extend his legacy, but only when he feels ready to do so, and only at Light Heavyweight if he really thinks he is going to win. I think going up a division and losing would tarnish his record when perhaps he might be better staying at SM and unifying. Perhaps do a RJJ and get evry title under the sun, he currently has two only four more to get!

[shooter]

Calzaghe walks around in the high 80kg area apparently and Johnson used to fight at middle and was mauled and stopped by Hopkins there.

I think he can handle Johnson and Tarver. People (including Tarver) make Tarver out to be a big offensive threat. true enough he has power in the left hand but he isn't that aggressive and looks quite reluctant until he lands a big counter. Even in his best fights (Harding 2, Jones 2) he looked quite gunshy until he landed a big left counter. The Calzaghe that fought Lacy can beat Kessler, Johnson, Tarver and anyone else near his weight.

[Purist]

Tarver would outbox him imo
And yes, Lacy was overhyped

I think Tarver is the only guy he has a realistic chance of fighting soon, that has a realistic chance of winning... But it would by no means easy.. Who has Tarver ever really outboxed, he had to go through hell to do so against Glen Johnson and he was in trouble in both fights... He could barely outbox old Reggie Johnson who managed to drop him late.. And Eric Harding flat out beat him. Tarver isn't some great skilled boxer like ppl seem to think... If anything he is a half assed brawler because he just throws flurries for about 30 seconds or so per round... Having said that he is a very strong southpaw with a granite chin who is bigger then Calzaghe, and given the way they both like to fight I could see it being a very good match.. But I just think calzaghe can outwork Tarver, Tarver does what he did for 36 minutes against Lacy, for about 30 seconds every round.. And still manages to gass out late, but you never know how Calzaghe will handle Tarvers power, especially if he tastes some big shots.

Because Calzaghe's biggest weakness is fighting a guy that looks to counter him, and Tarver would and has the size to keep Joe at a distance Tarver would KO Joe

[Snakey]

By the way wacko, dont compare kostya to joe coz kostya is more accomplished. He fought the best, ruled a division for 7 yrs and unified. If joe had fought the best then he would unified, correct me if im wrong.

Babe...don't dish that shit out if you can't take it.

You been crying about KT gettin his ass handed to him for months & months & pretty much the better part of a year since Hatton strapped it on him.

Again...don't dish if you can't take a reply.

Kostya fought the best? Ruled the division for 7 years? Who do you consider the best outta the names that Kostya fought?

Now before you get all bent on a tangent...remember...KT got his ass handed to him twice...once by Phillips...the other by someone that you have said was unproven & not all that in the past. Then again...I said the same thing...but we were both wrong weren't we.

Again...do not dish if you can take it.

The thing that is bullshit is the fact that you cant get behind Calzaghe because he's an englishman.

He's a champion & he's been reigning undefeated...that should be enough.

Also...I'm just talkin here...not trying to rip you one...just talking.

Mate...crying...dont think so, pissed yes! Lets see what you would do if winky fought taylor....taylor used every foul in the book, held all night, delivered a intentional low blow. That night was fucked and i really dont give a shit what anyone says about it! I dont hold grudges and i do support ricky when he fights and i support joe. I dont hate joe, i respect the man...i got no problem with him. He rules the division right now....but my main point he is not fucking unbeatable! Im sick of the hype wacko, im deadset sick of it! He is the man in the division but what the fuck did lacy do before he fought joe? What was so great about him? The guy had power, so fucking what? He didnt accomplish heaps did he? He had potential...but i saw nothing great in him which is why i picked joe by UD. I think everyone is hyping joe so much because everyone picked lacy to win but that dont mean he the best ever. Joe took him to school, gave him a beating and proved lacy wasnt shit! Joe rose to the occasion and that is something that has some what made me a fan of his! But im a realist....and yeah this applies to kostya too(if you dont believe me, join the tszyu forum and im one of the first guys to speak up when people are saying kostya is better then he was), like it or not wacko...and i think youve really turned away from kessler coz of all the kessler nuthugger, kessler can bloody well fight and if he fights calzaghe it aint gonna be the same as what happened to lacy! Youve probably seen more calzaghe fights then me and ive probably seen more kessler fights then you. But from what ive seen, kessler is a force to be reckoned with! I also think mundine can beat him....so what? He has improved a lot and can do it. I never said mundine could beat joe....styles make fights and calzaghe has a different style to kessler.

You can say kessler if you want then i can say you havent watched the fight. Mundine was the first guy in quite a while to back kessler up and it was obvious kessler was weary of him. That bullshit injury story, he got extra time to recover so he can shove that injury excuse right up his a***.

Also...you can cry all you want...but he still lost to Kessler...injury or not...Kess still won.

You just have a problem with the fact that Kostya hasn't conquered 168lbs yet don't you?

I think he's pretty close to that weight right now...you know...he may have a shot.

When have i cried about mundine losing to kessler, i never said kessler didnt beat mundine. I never said mundine was robbed...all i said is that injury bullshit is just that. First off it came out in the press he had a back injury...then there was the whisper of a hand injury, what kind of bullshit is that? He had extra time to recover for that bullshit and then after he doesnt ko mundine he says "I was only 60 percent"....ive heard of making excuses when you lose but when you win? Come on!

[shooter]

Calzaghe isn't superman true enough, but the name of the thread might be a subconscious link to the motivations behind posting it. Check out the Mundine homepage for unashamed hero worship.

(Mundine should also have more brains than to call his website 'theblacksuperman.com.' That's another example of his stupid Ali impersonation)

[sexydarin]

Obviously, anyone can lose at anytime. But from the first moment i saw Joe Calzaghe fight, i couldn't believe his accuracy rate. Man this guy is an accurate puncher. He made me a believer.

[Snakey]

Calzaghe isn't superman true enough, but the name of the thread might be a subconscious link to the motivations behind posting it. Check out the Mundine homepage for unashamed hero worship.

(Mundine should also have more brains than to call his website 'theblacksuperman.com.' That's another example of his stupid Ali impersonation)

Thats not an official mundine website, it was started by a guy at the tszyu forum. Mundine can act like ali sometimes but he would never do that

[CopeAli]

Defintely aint unbeatable. but not sure how "sh1t" guys he has struggled against??

Looked crap a couple of times, but who doesn't and we all know he was an emotional wreck for about 3 years whilts his fortune was being stolen in his divorce - not too mention fighting with a broken hand on a number of occasions

Aint unbeatable, but he's better than this thread suggests imo

Yeah look i dont really care about details....i just dont think hes unbeatable.

and snakey im not one to get personal, but you really should analyse calzaghe's career a little more before dissing him....he is a long time champ and has beaten many seasoned pro's....in the process he has failed to lose a fight. whats more he's coming off a whitewash win against someone most of the critics were favouring to win....

everyone is beatable at some point....but give joe his props, this is his time....

if he loses to johnson then feel free to lay on this "oh but lacy was overhyped and calzaghe not so good" jargon all you like....i dont think its gonna happen though, but stranger things have happened after all...

until then respect a guy that has earned respect...

Excellent response mate. There'll always be people who don't give credit to a fighter for their achievements, that's boxing.
Calzaghe quite obviously deserves all the respect in the world, and will still do so if ever he is beaten. He is an outstanding fighter who does have his critics but the be all and end all is he is still unbeaten (no matter what Robin Reid says).

The performance against Lacy was the best performance i have seen in a long time. The hype before hand reminded me of the hype prior to the Benn-McClellan fight.

P.S. Calzaghe would destroy Kessler.

[Snakey]

Why are all of you acting like im disrespecting him? Im a fan of him....yet im disrespecting him? What the fuck?

[Wacko3205]

Why are all of you acting like im disrespecting him? Im a fan of him....yet im disrespecting him? What the F***?

Basically...I'm just ribbing you & talking...but if you don't think that it sounds like your'e dissing Calzaghe...look at the title of the thread & it's content...

That being said:

Im sick of the hype wacko, im deadset sick of it! He is the man in the division but what the F*** did lacy do before he fought joe? What was so great about him? The guy had power, so F****** what? He didnt accomplish heaps did he? He had potential...but i saw nothing great in him which is why i picked joe by UD. I think everyone is hyping joe so much because everyone picked lacy to win but that dont mean he the best ever. Joe took him to school, gave him a beating and proved lacy wasnt S***! Joe rose to the occasion and that is something that has some what made me a fan of his!

Let me say this...anyone who says that Lacy isn't or wasn't shat offa that one loss is just full of shat...sorry snakey...but that's the way I see it.

Lacy is a great fighter. Joe Calzaghe made a statment that night...very true...but saying that Lacy wasn't shit is just a backwards statement.

He was enough to be the IBF's champion & he was enough to best some of the men that Calzaghe had defeated & he was a young & up & coming champion who just bit off a bit more than he could chew...but the man is & was far from being shit or overhyped or whatever...that's just the cruel reality of boxing fans spite.

He did the best he could against the best that he could fight.

Just out of curiousity...if the two rematched & Jeff knocked Joe out...what then?

Joe's back to being shit & Lacy's back to being the shit?

[Snakey]

Why are all of you acting like im disrespecting him? Im a fan of him....yet im disrespecting him? What the F***?

Basically...I'm just ribbing you & talking...but if you don't think that it sounds like your'e dissing Calzaghe...look at the title of the thread & it's content...

That being said:

Im sick of the hype wacko, im deadset sick of it! He is the man in the division but what the F*** did lacy do before he fought joe? What was so great about him? The guy had power, so F****** what? He didnt accomplish heaps did he? He had potential...but i saw nothing great in him which is why i picked joe by UD. I think everyone is hyping joe so much because everyone picked lacy to win but that dont mean he the best ever. Joe took him to school, gave him a beating and proved lacy wasnt S***! Joe rose to the occasion and that is something that has some what made me a fan of his!

Let me say this...anyone who says that Lacy isn't or wasn't shat offa that one loss is just full of shat...sorry snakey...but that's the way I see it.

Lacy is a great fighter. Joe Calzaghe made a statment that night...very true...but saying that Lacy wasn't shit is just a backwards statement.

He was enough to be the IBF's champion & he was enough to best some of the men that Calzaghe had defeated & he was a young & up & coming champion who just bit off a bit more than he could chew...but the man is & was far from being shit or overhyped or whatever...that's just the cruel reality of boxing fans spite.

He did the best he could against the best that he could fight.

Just out of curiousity...if the two rematched & Jeff knocked Joe out...what then?

Joe's back to being shit & Lacy's back to being the shit?

First off...a rematch would rediculous and then i would seriously start questioning calzaghe for giving him one. Second if he knocked joe out then it would prove what i said....he has power, how he does it is another story. If he boxes with joe and knocks him out by fighting tactically then im wrong and he does have a lot of talent but if he hits one good shot and then just swarms him then it proves he is mainly just a power puncher

[Snakey]

Why are all of you acting like im disrespecting him? Im a fan of him....yet im disrespecting him? What the F***?

Basically...I'm just ribbing you & talking...but if you don't think that it sounds like your'e dissing Calzaghe...look at the title of the thread & it's content...

Mate im a fan of calzaghe...what im not a fan of is making out somebody is better then what they really are. Just like when some guys at the tszyu site said kostya could beat the likes of danny green and anthony mundine and other big blokes....hey he was good but there aint no way kostya could beat anyone good at 168 (the guys like 5'7 and most super mids are close to the 6'0 mark...hed get smashed). Its just the fact that some people are saying that no one has a chance against calzaghe based on his lacy performance when really lacys style was made for calzaghe. He was a come forward power hitter, calzaghe made him miss all night and out boxed him. Kessler doesnt have that style and neither does mundine. Green has that style so he would get koed.

[GAME]

I agree with those of you who think Joe is the real deal . Ive only ever picked against him once in his entire career ( against Lacy ) and I wont be doing it again .

Up until then I knew he was guna beat who they put infront of him but thought by the time Jeff came along Calzaghes best days were behind him . He appeared to be on the decline but obviously not . Hes gota be top 5 p4p material now considering hes unbeaten and been at the top for so long

[BIG H]

Let me say this...anyone who says that Lacy isn't or wasn't shat offa that one loss is just full of shat...sorry snakey...but that's the way I see it.

Lacy is a great fighter. Joe Calzaghe made a statment that night...very true...but saying that Lacy wasn't S*** is just a backwards statement.

He was enough to be the IBF's champion & he was enough to best some of the men that Calzaghe had defeated & he was a young & up & coming champion who just bit off a bit more than he could chew...but the man is & was far from being S*** or overhyped or whatever...that's just the cruel reality of boxing fans spite.

He did the best he could against the best that he could fight.

Agree 100%

[Wacko3205]

Let me say this...anyone who says that Lacy isn't or wasn't shat offa that one loss is just full of shat...sorry snakey...but that's the way I see it.

Lacy is a great fighter. Joe Calzaghe made a statment that night...very true...but saying that Lacy wasn't S*** is just a backwards statement.

He was enough to be the IBF's champion & he was enough to best some of the men that Calzaghe had defeated & he was a young & up & coming champion who just bit off a bit more than he could chew...but the man is & was far from being S*** or overhyped or whatever...that's just the cruel reality of boxing fans spite.

He did the best he could against the best that he could fight.

Agree 100%

Thanks Big H.