Super-middle weight propects - the next generation

[JT Rock]

do you even know what a fan boy is?

Well judging by the way you posed the question to me I'm hoping it doesn't mean I'm a Homo..LOL!!!

no... a fan boy is basically a nut hugger... you just seem to be a fan...

Thanks I am a fan only...LOL!!! I am aware of Lacy's deficiencies and just hoping he will have it in him to make adjustments he was mediocre at best against Calzag he....I have been following him for quite a few years before anyone knew who he was and I just loved to see the ferocious punching power but you cant get by on just that..

1) Jab
2) headmovement
3) defensive improvements
4) refine boxing skills

He will be fine, time will tell ultimately

NO NO NO, he will never be fine if you equal fine to be a master of boxing - Lacy has always lost in the top competition and he will continue. He does NOT have the tools to fight Jess, Calzag he, Mundine etc. even he is liked and hyped by most as you does....

Please tell me: how the heck should he beat Traver, Kesley, Mundine and other boxers, when he does not have the tools to beat journey men Ross and Omar?

Well seeing he has only 1 loss asshole you tell me.....By the way who are you to judge talent You racist prick,Why dont you do us all a favor and turn off your computer...FUKING EUNUCH!!!!!!

Racist

Am I a racist because I do not hang on the Lacy hype bus, or could you just show me a single post, where I have been spoken racist arguments? Else I would accept your stoppage of this board....

Royal you have made pleny of racist remarks toward americans in general!!!!!

[Set and Match]

do you even know what a fan boy is?

Well judging by the way you posed the question to me I'm hoping it doesn't mean I'm a Homo..LOL!!!

no... a fan boy is basically a nut hugger... you just seem to be a fan...

Thanks I am a fan only...LOL!!! I am aware of Lacy's deficiencies and just hoping he will have it in him to make adjustments he was mediocre at best against Calzag he....I have been following him for quite a few years before anyone knew who he was and I just loved to see the ferocious punching power but you cant get by on just that..

1) Jab
2) headmovement
3) defensive improvements
4) refine boxing skills

He will be fine, time will tell ultimately

NO NO NO, he will never be fine if you equal fine to be a master of boxing - Lacy has always lost in the top competition and he will continue. He does NOT have the tools to fight Jess, Calzag he, Mundine etc. even he is liked and hyped by most as you does....

Please tell me: how the heck should he beat Traver, Kesley, Mundine and other boxers, when he does not have the tools to beat journey men Ross and Omar?

Well seeing he has only 1 loss asshole you tell me.....By the way who are you to judge talent You racist prick,Why dont you do us all a favor and turn off your computer...FUKING EUNUCH!!!!!!

Racist

Am I a racist because I do not hang on the Lacy hype bus, or could you just show me a single post, where I have been spoken racist arguments? Else I would accept your stoppage of this board....

Royal you have made pleny of racist remarks toward americans in general!!!!!

jtrock, You are a homosexual very clearly....

This sentence is more true than your claim as me being a racist as you do not follow up your claims by ANY evidences….

The problem is that you and others heard and read that I was a racist, but actually they did never read any racist post from Royal, but if Wacko and others said that he is a racist enough times, then he must be a racist even my own eyes never read any racist remarks of this guy….

[BoxingCoachBW]

OK... This is whats up. Manfredo has a tough road ahead of him to prove himself after the lose to Gomez and the 1...thats right 1 lose to mora which he avenged (for you BigRagu)

He will most likely take on a Shieka'esk apponent in order to see where he stands... the contender people(whom he still has a contract with) are telling him who and when he can fight... they prob dont want him in with dangerous opposition so it doesnt make "the contender" look like a sham...

after a spina or shieka fight i guarentee all u nay sayers that he will step up his comp to a froch or a green even poss catching lacy honeing his new techniques... not one of u have ever even SEEN him fight prior to the contender(maybe im wrong but most of u)... I live in RI and have been watching him since he was fighting in the nationals against taylor(taylor beat him twice i think...and didnt see that fight but just giving the timeframe)... saw him fight @ foxwoods on multiple occations thats why I was so excited when he was on a nationally telivised show... He didnt look like himself in any of the fights... he looked unfocused and rattled... it irritated me cuz thats not him... roach didnt teach peter much he didnt already know but taught him how to implement them...shortened his punches...fients... and what have u. I dont know about kessler so i dont talk about him... i dont know about beyer so i dont talk about him... everybody seems to think they know this kid cuz they saw him fight like 4 times... and in 5 round bouts when he was used to 10 and 12... I love u guys but u amaze me sometimes with how fickle u can be... you cant judge without seeing the whole picture and u havent... I even havent but more so then many of u therefore i can compile an educated oppinion..................

He will be a top tier fighter (top five) in the SMD in the next 3 years

You seriously look for me whenever you post, Dont you

Well as much as I like what you had to say, here is my return.....

For all of those folks looking at Froch....Forget him, he is nothing but a hyped up stepping stone for someone to squash and look good doing it...And when it happens, all of you that cut me down after saying it will owe me a CC.....

Next.....

I guess that we are back to talking about Super Middles again....

Here are some opinions of mine on this division...

Well, JC will be there for a while...He is stronger than he looks and not afraid of anyone that wants to test him on that fact...

Lacy, well, I think he would be much better off fighting at Middle(Though I wouldnt recomend) or even take a chance at Light heavy...His speed is a little off for Super Middles atm....

Alan Green....All I can say about this guy is this, He is strong, He is fast and last but not least, he has POWER!!! Super Middles, take heed, this is the way you are supposed to be at this weight class.....10 more fights for this guy and I feel he will be all you hear about in this division...

Mikkel Kessler....Well, if he didnt fight 98% of his fights in Denmark and maybe if he would add a few notable wins to his record, maybe,,,,But I would not bet on him right at this moment...

ALSO, alot of his fights were at Middle, so I would like to see more at super-middle with notable wins...

As for Manfredo....I am not even going back to the discussion about this kid....

Here is the way you test Manfredo...Put him in with Lacy...Then Alan Green...And if he makes it past them, give him a shot at JC....

As for any other solid prospects in the Super Middle class,,,I just dont see any....

Kessler did fight The Ring`s #3 abroad and won very easily - it was his very first defence so do not say that he is not ready to fight abroad. When he defeated Siaca it was not his fight - he took the fight with 9 days notices as Mads Larsen, his senior ranked partner, got injured in the US working with McGirt.

As for Mikkel Kessler....

I dont give a shit what people say about him, I dont see this kid lasting 5 rounds with any of the people I listed in my previous post....This kid has nothing impressive to show and I dont see a great future for him in the weight division....

For those fixxing to freak about that statement....Look at it from this angle....

If the promoters from the USA liked what they see in Kessler, dont you think he would have had a few more fights in the USA with Notable opponents

The reason it hasnt happened is because he doesnt have anything to offer...And thats the truth....


Within the next year here is your Top 3 Fighters in the Super Middle Division....

1- Joe Calzaghe
2- Allan Green
3- Jeff Lacy(Depending on how his next fight goes)

Top 10- Peter Manfredo Jr.( I put this here for PRIDE)!!!!

There is no other fighters in that division I see right now that even make a ripple in any of these top three fighter's pond!!!(I wrote this to stir up something!!!)

Good Luck!!!

[Set and Match]

OK... This is whats up. Manfredo has a tough road ahead of him to prove himself after the lose to Gomez and the 1...thats right 1 lose to mora which he avenged (for you BigRagu)

He will most likely take on a Shieka'esk apponent in order to see where he stands... the contender people(whom he still has a contract with) are telling him who and when he can fight... they prob dont want him in with dangerous opposition so it doesnt make "the contender" look like a sham...

after a spina or shieka fight i guarentee all u nay sayers that he will step up his comp to a froch or a green even poss catching lacy honeing his new techniques... not one of u have ever even SEEN him fight prior to the contender(maybe im wrong but most of u)... I live in RI and have been watching him since he was fighting in the nationals against taylor(taylor beat him twice i think...and didnt see that fight but just giving the timeframe)... saw him fight @ foxwoods on multiple occations thats why I was so excited when he was on a nationally telivised show... He didnt look like himself in any of the fights... he looked unfocused and rattled... it irritated me cuz thats not him... roach didnt teach peter much he didnt already know but taught him how to implement them...shortened his punches...fients... and what have u. I dont know about kessler so i dont talk about him... i dont know about beyer so i dont talk about him... everybody seems to think they know this kid cuz they saw him fight like 4 times... and in 5 round bouts when he was used to 10 and 12... I love u guys but u amaze me sometimes with how fickle u can be... you cant judge without seeing the whole picture and u havent... I even havent but more so then many of u therefore i can compile an educated oppinion..................

He will be a top tier fighter (top five) in the SMD in the next 3 years

You seriously look for me whenever you post, Dont you

Well as much as I like what you had to say, here is my return.....

For all of those folks looking at Froch....Forget him, he is nothing but a hyped up stepping stone for someone to squash and look good doing it...And when it happens, all of you that cut me down after saying it will owe me a CC.....

Next.....

I guess that we are back to talking about Super Middles again....

Here are some opinions of mine on this division...

Well, JC will be there for a while...He is stronger than he looks and not afraid of anyone that wants to test him on that fact...

Lacy, well, I think he would be much better off fighting at Middle(Though I wouldnt recomend) or even take a chance at Light heavy...His speed is a little off for Super Middles atm....

Alan Green....All I can say about this guy is this, He is strong, He is fast and last but not least, he has POWER!!! Super Middles, take heed, this is the way you are supposed to be at this weight class.....10 more fights for this guy and I feel he will be all you hear about in this division...

Mikkel Kessler....Well, if he didnt fight 98% of his fights in Denmark and maybe if he would add a few notable wins to his record, maybe,,,,But I would not bet on him right at this moment...

ALSO, alot of his fights were at Middle, so I would like to see more at super-middle with notable wins...

As for Manfredo....I am not even going back to the discussion about this kid....

Here is the way you test Manfredo...Put him in with Lacy...Then Alan Green...And if he makes it past them, give him a shot at JC....

As for any other solid prospects in the Super Middle class,,,I just dont see any....

Kessler did fight The Ring`s #3 abroad and won very easily - it was his very first defence so do not say that he is not ready to fight abroad. When he defeated Siaca it was not his fight - he took the fight with 9 days notices as Mads Larsen, his senior ranked partner, got injured in the US working with McGirt.

As for Mikkel Kessler....

I dont give a S*** what people say about him, I dont see this kid lasting 5 rounds with any of the people I listed in my previous post....This kid has nothing impressive to show and I dont see a great future for him in the weight division....

For those fixxing to freak about that statement....Look at it from this angle....

If the promoters from the USA liked what they see in Kessler, dont you think he would have had a few more fights in the USA with Notable opponents

The reason it hasnt happened is because he doesnt have anything to offer...And thats the truth....


Within the next year here is your Top 3 Fighters in the Super Middle Division....

1- Joe Calzaghe
2- Allan Green
3- Jeff Lacy(Depending on how his next fight goes)

Top 10- Peter Manfredo Jr.( I put this here for PRIDE)!!!!

There is no other fighters in that division I see right now that even make a ripple in any of these top three fighter's pond!!!(I wrote this to stir up something!!!)

Good Luck!!!

I dont wwnt to use too much time replying on this post as you cleary does not know to much about boxing - you are just an american igronrant putting Green, Lacy and Manfredo up as the next big things in the SMW - have you forgotten that SMW has always beling to Europ but now when green, lacy and manfredo is there, then it is an american division from now on? Is that what you stay?

By the way both SHOWTIME and HBO are trying to get a contract with Kessler as you can read here:

http://www.teampalle.dk/composite-1203.htm

[Gandalf]

do you even know what a fan boy is?

Well judging by the way you posed the question to me I'm hoping it doesn't mean I'm a Homo..LOL!!!

no... a fan boy is basically a nut hugger... you just seem to be a fan...

Thanks I am a fan only...LOL!!! I am aware of Lacy's deficiencies and just hoping he will have it in him to make adjustments he was mediocre at best against Calzag he....I have been following him for quite a few years before anyone knew who he was and I just loved to see the ferocious punching power but you cant get by on just that..

1) Jab
2) headmovement
3) defensive improvements
4) refine boxing skills

He will be fine, time will tell ultimately

NO NO NO, he will never be fine if you equal fine to be a master of boxing - Lacy has always lost in the top competition and he will continue. He does NOT have the tools to fight Jess, Calzag he, Mundine etc. even he is liked and hyped by most as you does....

Please tell me: how the heck should he beat Traver, Kesley, Mundine and other boxers, when he does not have the tools to beat journey men Ross and Omar?

Well seeing he has only 1 loss asshole you tell me.....By the way who are you to judge talent You racist prick,Why dont you do us all a favor and turn off your computer...FUKING EUNUCH!!!!!!

He does like to provoke, but dont stoop to the level of trading insults....you are better than that...

Dont rise to the bait

[mafiajoey]

I'm American and think Manfredo is way over rated! He couldn't even hold Laceys jock strap who couldn't even put a scratch on Joe C. These two Americans are shitty!! Somebody knock out JermainTaylor please!!!

[BoxingCoachBW]

I dont wwnt to use too much time replying on this post as you cleary does not know to much about boxing - you are just an american igronrant putting Green, Lacy and Manfredo up as the next big things in the SMW - have you forgotten that SMW has always beling to Europ but now when green, lacy and manfredo is there, then it is an american division from now on? Is that what you stay?

By the way both SHOWTIME and HBO are trying to get a contract with Kessler as you can read here:

http://www.teampalle.dk/composite-1203.htm

Pardon me, Who the hell are you

When putting up a link, maybe put in a link with a language folks can read....

Second, dont question my knowledge....you dont have the right to do that....

Third, If you read a little closer, you will see I have a Euro fighter at the top....I like Euro fighters that prove themselves...

You see, I do put American fighters above most from around the world, I am biased like that....But, there is a reason for me doing that....

We have some of the best talent comming up in the sport...Thats why....

The reason I dont like Kessler is, because he hasnt taken the steps to prove himself....
Ok, in a language you understand, he has Showtime looking at him for a fight.....WITH WHO? some run of the mill bum there in Denmark?? Or some bum from the states

For Kessler to get what he needs in the Division, which is respect, he needs to fight in a notable match....
I dont consider Ring's #3 a notable fighter....Ring's Rankings dont matter, thats a writer giving his opinion...

Fight a top ranked fighter and then say something...



I get a little touchy when some Euro trash comes on and says shit to me like they know what the hell they are talking about....

FIRST OF ALL,

READ BEFORE YOU WRITE DUMASS!!!!

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I'm American and think Manfredo is way over rated! He couldn't even hold Laceys jock strap who couldn't even put a scratch on Joe C. These two Americans are shitty!! Somebody knock out JermainTaylor please!!!

SOMEONE KNOCK U OUT

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

CC COACH... I LIKE YA STYLE

[JT Rock]

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jtrock, You are a homosexual very clearly....

Thats not what your sister said...LOL!!!

You are the Trouser Weasle....You are Kesslers favorite TURD BURGLER

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

JTROCK... DONT SINK TO THIS IDIOTS LEVEL... BIGDEUCE DOES THIS SAME THING TO ME... JUST FRUSTRATED CHILDREN WITH HAIRY PALMS

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

HERES A CC FOR YOUR TROUBLE

[JT Rock]

HERES A CC FOR YOUR TROUBLE

Have one for the road yourself

[MikeTysonKnockOut]

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OK... This is whats up. Manfredo has a tough road ahead of him to prove himself after the lose to Gomez and the 1...thats right 1 lose to mora which he avenged (for you BigRagu)

He will most likely take on a Shieka'esk apponent in order to see where he stands... the contender people(whom he still has a contract with) are telling him who and when he can fight... they prob dont want him in with dangerous opposition so it doesnt make "the contender"
is an american division from now on? Is that what you stay?

By the way both SHOWTIME and HBO are trying to get a contract with Kessler as you can read here:

http://www.teampalle.dk/composite-1203.htm

He can't read Danish you fooking Retard

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

thomas daamgard ruuuuuuuuules